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WingsOfGood 08/06/21 11:32:27 AM #1:	https://www.wbrz.com/news/first-cases-of-covid-lambda-variant-reported-in-north-louisiana/ BATON ROUGE - The new COVID Lambda variant has been detected in Louisiana, doctors told WBRZ Thursday. It was first reported in the U.S. in Houston and health care officials believe since Texas and Louisiana share a border, the virus variant was easily spread. "I do know that with the proximity with Texas, there have been a few cases detected in North Louisiana with the Lamda variant. But we don't know whether this is going to be a more aggressive or less aggressive virus," Dr. Aldo Russo, the medical director at Ochsner said. Dr. Russo said the Lambda variant has not been detected in the capital region yet, but health care professionals are testing for it. "We are monitoring this very closely. Our teams are sequencing the different variants," Dr. Russo said. The Lambda variant was first reported in Peru in December and has become the dominant strain of the virus there. It's concerning for the country because the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. "They have stated that there may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Dr. Russo echoed health care messages from most everywhere else: The best way to combat the Lambda variant is to increase the vaccination rate. Fyi, this variant modified the spike protein it uses which is how it is vaccine resistant as that is how vaccines train your body to recognize covid. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956832250] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>https://www.wbrz.com/news/first-cases-of-covid-lambda-variant-reported-in-north-louisiana/ <quote>BATON ROUGE - The new COVID Lambda variant has been detected in Louisiana, doctors told WBRZ Thursday. It was first reported in the U.S. in Houston and health care officials believe since Texas and Louisiana share a border, the virus variant was easily spread. "I do know that with the proximity with Texas, there have been a few cases detected in North Louisiana with the Lamda variant. But we don't know whether this is going to be a more aggressive or less aggressive virus," Dr. Aldo Russo, the medical director at Ochsner said. Dr. Russo said the Lambda variant has not been detected in the capital region yet, but health care professionals are testing for it. "We are monitoring this very closely. Our teams are sequencing the different variants," Dr. Russo said. The Lambda variant was first reported in Peru in December and has become the dominant strain of the virus there. It's concerning for the country because the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. "They have stated that there may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Dr. Russo echoed health care messages from most everywhere else: The best way to combat the Lambda variant is to increase the vaccination rate.</quote> Fyi, this variant modified the spike protein it uses which is how it is vaccine resistant as that is how vaccines train your body to recognize covid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 11:35:40 AM #2:	details of this deadly variant and it's vaccine resistance https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/more-data-point-to-lambda-variant-s-potential-lethality Data show how the lambda COVID-19 variant could possibly elude vaccines. One of the lead researchers of a new study calls lambda a potential threat to the human society. Scientific researchers continue to try and get a bead on the lambda variant of COVID-19, which initial andas yetnot peer-reviewed research suggests might possibly be resistant to vaccines. Thats the conclusion reached by investigators with the University of Tokyo, in a study posted on bioRxiv, which has not yet been peer-reviewed. Their conclusions mirror those of a study released several weeks agoalso not peer-reviewed yetby investigators in Chile. The study by the University of Tokyo researchers states that two mutations in the lambda variantT76I and L452Qmakes it more infectious than the variant that had health care systems throughout the world reeling this time last yearD614G, the so-called wild type. (Its not yet known whether the lambda variant is more infectious than the Delta variant, which in many places in the world, including the United States, is now the dominant variant and also comes with a host of challenges to health care systems.) In addition, states the study, the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, a unique 7-amino-acid deletion mutation in the N-terminal domain of the lambda spike protein, is responsible for evasion from neutralizing antibodies. The investigators discovered the mutations in lab experiments. The World Health Organization (WHO) says that the lambda variantor C.37 varianthas been the COVID-19 carrier in about 81% of infections in Peru since April. The variant was first identified in Peru in August 2020. The WHO declared the lambda variant a variant of interest (VOI) on June 14, a designation that means that it could cause a greater risk than the wild-type variant. Thats an understatement, according to the investigators at the University of Tokyo, who want the WHO to label the lambda variant a variant of concern (VOC) to put health care systems around the world on notice that this might be their next big challenge. They write that because the lambda variant is a VOI, it might be considered that this variant is not an ongoing threat compared to the pandemic VOCs. However, because the lambda variant is relatively resistant to the vaccine-induced antisera, it might be possible that this variant is feasible to cause breakthrough infection. Kei Sato, PhD, a senior researcher at the University of Tokyo and 1 of the 2 lead authors of the study, tells Reuters that lambda can be a potential threat to the human society. The study states that since the Lambda variant has dominantly spread according to the increasing frequency of the isolates harboring the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, our data suggest that the insertion of the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation is closely associated with the massive infection spread of the Lambda variant in South America. According to data-collecting organization GISAID Initiative, there have been 1037 cases of lambda in the US. Pablo Tsukayama, PhD, is a molecular microbiologist at Cayetano Heredia University in Lima, Peru, and has been tracking lambda since its appearance. He told Al Jazeera on July 27 that when we found it, it did not attract much attention. But we continued processing samples, and by March, it was in 50% of the samples in Lima. By April, it was in 80% of the samples in Peru. That jump from [1%] to 50% is an early indicator of a more transmissible variant. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956832343] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>details of this deadly variant and it's vaccine resistance https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/more-data-point-to-lambda-variant-s-potential-lethality <quote>Data show how the lambda COVID-19 variant could possibly elude vaccines. One of the lead researchers of a new study calls lambda a potential threat to the human society. Scientific researchers continue to try and get a bead on the lambda variant of COVID-19, which initial andas yetnot peer-reviewed research suggests might possibly be resistant to vaccines. Thats the conclusion reached by investigators with the University of Tokyo, in a study posted on bioRxiv, which has not yet been peer-reviewed. Their conclusions mirror those of a study released several weeks agoalso not peer-reviewed yetby investigators in Chile. The study by the University of Tokyo researchers states that two mutations in the lambda variantT76I and L452Qmakes it more infectious than the variant that had health care systems throughout the world reeling this time last yearD614G, the so-called wild type. (Its not yet known whether the lambda variant is more infectious than the Delta variant, which in many places in the world, including the United States, is now the dominant variant and also comes with a host of challenges to health care systems.) In addition, states the study, the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, a unique 7-amino-acid deletion mutation in the N-terminal domain of the lambda spike protein, is responsible for evasion from neutralizing antibodies. The investigators discovered the mutations in lab experiments. The World Health Organization (WHO) says that the lambda variantor C.37 varianthas been the COVID-19 carrier in about 81% of infections in Peru since April. The variant was first identified in Peru in August 2020. The WHO declared the lambda variant a variant of interest (VOI) on June 14, a designation that means that it could cause a greater risk than the wild-type variant. Thats an understatement, according to the investigators at the University of Tokyo, who want the WHO to label the lambda variant a variant of concern (VOC) to put health care systems around the world on notice that this might be their next big challenge. They write that because the lambda variant is a VOI, it might be considered that this variant is not an ongoing threat compared to the pandemic VOCs. However, because the lambda variant is relatively resistant to the vaccine-induced antisera, it might be possible that this variant is feasible to cause breakthrough infection. Kei Sato, PhD, a senior researcher at the University of Tokyo and 1 of the 2 lead authors of the study, tells Reuters that lambda can be a potential threat to the human society. The study states that since the Lambda variant has dominantly spread according to the increasing frequency of the isolates harboring the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, our data suggest that the insertion of the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation is closely associated with the massive infection spread of the Lambda variant in South America. According to data-collecting organization GISAID Initiative, there have been 1037 cases of lambda in the US. Pablo Tsukayama, PhD, is a molecular microbiologist at Cayetano Heredia University in Lima, Peru, and has been tracking lambda since its appearance. He told Al Jazeera on July 27 that when we found it, it did not attract much attention. But we continued processing samples, and by March, it was in 50% of the samples in Lima. By April, it was in 80% of the samples in Peru. That jump from [1%] to 50% is an early indicator of a more transmissible variant.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/06/21 11:38:07 AM #3:	vaccine resistant variant appears in random country US: oh well doesnt restrict travel to people who have been to that country variant shows up in the US US: shockedPikachu.jpg im tired of this fucking cycle --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956832424] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>vaccine resistant variant appears in random country US: oh well doesnt restrict travel to people who have been to that country variant shows up in the US US: shockedPikachu.jpg im tired of this fucking cycle </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bleuets 08/06/21 11:39:33 AM #4:	Time for that booster shot <cite>Bleuets posted [p:956832469] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Time for that booster shot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 11:44:47 AM #5:	Bleuets posted... Time for that booster shot @Bleuets This will not necessarily work. Fyi, what a booster does is it makes your body produce more of the cells it got from the previous shot (see production wanes after like 6 months). But these cells are what this variant is resistant too. Booster can induce mutation but will it work vs. lambda is not an instant given. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956832615] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Bleuets posted... </cite> <quote>Time for that booster shot </quote>@Bleuets This will not necessarily work. Fyi, what a booster does is it makes your body produce more of the cells it got from the previous shot (see production wanes after like 6 months). But these cells are what this variant is resistant too. Booster can induce mutation but will it work vs. lambda is not an instant given. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 08/06/21 11:46:37 AM #6:	damn --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:956832661] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote> damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 08/06/21 11:47:46 AM #7:	Don't bother, bluets is a known antivaxxer who gets joy in trolling over the pandemic. Do we have a simple percentage of how effective the current vaccines are against lambda? IIRC the efficacy was still above 90% for delta. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9 <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:956832694] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Don't bother, bluets is a known antivaxxer who gets joy in trolling over the pandemic. Do we have a simple percentage of how effective the current vaccines are against lambda? IIRC the efficacy was still above 90% for delta. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 08/06/21 11:49:06 AM #8:	So... Buy all the toilet paper? --- Common sense charged before shipping - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:956832740] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>So... Buy all the toilet paper? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 08/06/21 11:49:43 AM #9:	Unless the study is peer reviewed, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. I'm watching the governor of ohio and the head of the ohio health department talk about the delta variant, they have not said anything about this new variant being vaccine resistant. I'm not saying it's not vaccine resistant, however the study is not peer reviewed. --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:956832759] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Unless the study is peer reviewed, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. I'm watching the governor of ohio and the head of the ohio health department talk about the delta variant, they have not said anything about this new variant being vaccine resistant. I'm not saying it's not vaccine resistant, however the study is not peer reviewed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 08/06/21 11:49:54 AM #10:	Smackems posted... So... Buy all the toilet paper? Or just get a bidet --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9 <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:956832765] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>So... Buy all the toilet paper?</quote>Or just get a bidet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 08/06/21 11:50:37 AM #11:	Will_VIIII posted... Or just get a bidet That doesn't help against anything We NEED tp --- Common sense charged before shipping - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:956832791] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>Or just get a bidet</quote>That doesn't help against anything We NEED tp </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 08/06/21 11:51:34 AM #12:	Smackems posted... That doesn't help against anything We NEED tp I mean you'd use significantly less --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9 <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:956832825] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>That doesn't help against anything We NEED tp</quote>I mean you'd use significantly less </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 11:52:18 AM #13:	Will_VIIII posted... Do we have a simple percentage of how effective the current vaccines are against lambda? IIRC the efficacy was still above 90% for delta. As article states, it is unknown as Peru used the China vaccine. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956832849] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>Do we have a simple percentage of how effective the current vaccines are against lambda? IIRC the efficacy was still above 90% for delta.</quote> As article states, it is unknown as Peru used the China vaccine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bleuets 08/06/21 11:53:20 AM #14:	WingsOfGood posted... @Bleuets This will not necessarily work. Fyi, what a booster does is it makes your body produce more of the cells it got from the previous shot (see production wanes after like 6 months). But these cells are what this variant is resistant too. Booster can induce mutation but will it work vs. lambda is not an instant given. Well that just sucks. I guess I thought booster meant it was covering the new variations. <cite>Bleuets posted [p:956832878] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>@Bleuets This will not necessarily work. Fyi, what a booster does is it makes your body produce more of the cells it got from the previous shot (see production wanes after like 6 months). But these cells are what this variant is resistant too. Booster can induce mutation but will it work vs. lambda is not an instant given.</quote> Well that just sucks. I guess I thought booster meant it was covering the new variations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 11:54:34 AM #15:	Mr_Karate_II posted... Unless the study is peer reviewed, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. I'm watching the governor of ohio and the head of the ohio health department talk about the delta variant, they have not said anything about this new variant being vaccine resistant. I'm not saying it's not vaccine resistant, however the study is not peer reviewed. So you won't wear a mask? This is a pretty bad attitude as we used to think delta worked just like the first strain and that not wearing masks was ok. BOY WAS THAT A MISTAKE!! so let's ignore the warning about lambda huh? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956832922] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Karate_II posted... </cite> <quote>Unless the study is peer reviewed, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt. I'm watching the governor of ohio and the head of the ohio health department talk about the delta variant, they have not said anything about this new variant being vaccine resistant. I'm not saying it's not vaccine resistant, however the study is not peer reviewed.</quote> So you won't wear a mask? This is a pretty bad attitude as we used to think delta worked just like the first strain and that not wearing masks was ok. BOY WAS THAT A MISTAKE!! so let's ignore the warning about lambda huh? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 08/06/21 11:54:44 AM #16:	So with that'd I'd say let's get some actual numbers against the vaccines here. I could be wrong but I believe we'd see a gradual decline of vaccination resistance with each variant. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9 <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:956832926] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>So with that'd I'd say let's get some actual numbers against the vaccines here. I could be wrong but I believe we'd see a gradual decline of vaccination resistance with each variant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 11:56:41 AM #17:	Will_VIIII posted... I could be wrong but I believe we'd see a gradual decline of vaccination resistance with each variant. ? It is the opposite. Many papers have already reported vaccines tend to produce mutation not slow it. That is why it is important for fully vaccinated people to not be dumbasses and get infected by going out maskless or attending lalipalooza and stupid shit like that. That is to say, ideally, people get vaccinated, spread of virus slows and it basically dies out before it spreads enough to vaccinated people to produce breakthroughs. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956832975] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>I could be wrong but I believe we'd see a gradual decline of vaccination resistance with each variant.</quote> ? It is the opposite. Many papers have already reported vaccines tend to produce mutation not slow it. That is why it is important for fully vaccinated people to not be dumbasses and get infected by going out maskless or attending lalipalooza and stupid shit like that. That is to say, ideally, people get vaccinated, spread of virus slows and it basically dies out before it spreads enough to vaccinated people to produce breakthroughs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:02:34 PM #18:	Smackems posted... So... Buy all the toilet paper? please don't <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956833147] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>So... Buy all the toilet paper?</quote> please don't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Karate_II 08/06/21 12:08:55 PM #20:	WingsOfGood posted... So you won't wear a mask? This is a pretty bad attitude as we used to think delta worked just like the first strain and that not wearing masks was ok. BOY WAS THAT A MISTAKE!! so let's ignore the warning about lambda huh? I will gladly wear one if a business has people wear one to enter, obviously doctors office required then I will, I don't have an issue if its required. But if its not required then I'm not wearing one. I'm not anti mask or anti vax in slightest way possible, just not going to wear one if it's not required and the ohio governor already said he's not going to issue another mask mandate. Anyway, the study about this new variant isn't peer reviewed so we don't know how much of the study is correct on this variant being vaccine resistant. --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:956833322] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>So you won't wear a mask? This is a pretty bad attitude as we used to think delta worked just like the first strain and that not wearing masks was ok. BOY WAS THAT A MISTAKE!! so let's ignore the warning about lambda huh?</quote>I will gladly wear one if a business has people wear one to enter, obviously doctors office required then I will, I don't have an issue if its required. But if its not required then I'm not wearing one. I'm not anti mask or anti vax in slightest way possible, just not going to wear one if it's not required and the ohio governor already said he's not going to issue another mask mandate. Anyway, the study about this new variant isn't peer reviewed so we don't know how much of the study is correct on this variant being vaccine resistant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/06/21 12:09:38 PM #21:	Reminder that even if this news is true, getting the vaccine not only protects you against all other known variants, but likely will still make this variant less devastating. Hopefully our vaccines prove stronger than the ones on China(Not that I wish harm to anyone). --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:956833333] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Reminder that even if this news is true, getting the vaccine not only protects you against all other known variants, but likely will still make this variant less devastating. Hopefully our vaccines prove stronger than the ones on China(Not that I wish harm to anyone). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:13:02 PM #22:	Umbreon posted... Reminder that even if this news is true, getting the vaccine not only protects you against all other known variants, but likely will still make this variant less devastating. Hopefully our vaccines prove stronger than the ones on China(Not that I wish harm to anyone). I understand you are saying this to push anti-vaxxers but you also need to understand that repeating this will also give people who are vaccinated false confidence which will lead to more variants as breakthrough cases rise due to attitudes of not wearing masks and doing stupid stuff like going to lalipalooza. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956833439] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>Reminder that even if this news is true, getting the vaccine not only protects you against all other known variants, but likely will still make this variant less devastating. Hopefully our vaccines prove stronger than the ones on China(Not that I wish harm to anyone).</quote> I understand you are saying this to push anti-vaxxers but you also need to understand that repeating this will also give people who are vaccinated false confidence which will lead to more variants as breakthrough cases rise due to attitudes of not wearing masks and doing stupid stuff like going to lalipalooza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 08/06/21 12:16:32 PM #24:	WingsOfGood posted... Fyi, this variant modified the spike protein it uses which is how it is vaccine resistant as that is how vaccines train your body to recognize covid. That's not what the article you pasted itt says at all though. --- "Mr. Fatass. Mr ugly cat! Mr can't even sell for 2 bucks!" ~ Jim Lahey https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:956833522] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote> Fyi, this variant modified the spike protein it uses which is how it is vaccine resistant as that is how vaccines train your body to recognize covid.</quote> That's not what the article you pasted itt says at all though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/06/21 12:16:42 PM #25:	WingsOfGood posted... I understand you are saying this to push anti-vaxxers but you also need to understand that repeating this will also give people who are vaccinated false confidence which will lead to more variants as breakthrough cases rise due to attitudes of not wearing masks and doing stupid stuff like going to lalipalooza. Fair enough. Bring vaccinated doesn't mean one should act careless. I still wear a mask when going to the store. Mostly because I live in the south and people are terrible at this whole pandemic thing(or basic hygiene in general), but also because I wouldn't know for sure if I had/have Covid and could give it to someone. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:956833527] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>I understand you are saying this to push anti-vaxxers but you also need to understand that repeating this will also give people who are vaccinated false confidence which will lead to more variants as breakthrough cases rise due to attitudes of not wearing masks and doing stupid stuff like going to lalipalooza.</quote> Fair enough. Bring vaccinated doesn't mean one should act careless. I still wear a mask when going to the store. Mostly because I live in the south and people are terrible at this whole pandemic thing(or basic hygiene in general), but also because I wouldn't know for sure if I had/have Covid and could give it to someone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 08/06/21 12:21:15 PM #26:	shockthemonkey posted... Im not anti-mask I just wont wear one even if its a good idea unless someone forces me to is such a weird line of thinking That's your opinion --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:956833656] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Im not anti-mask I just wont wear one even if its a good idea unless someone forces me to is such a weird line of thinking</quote>That's your opinion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 08/06/21 12:22:50 PM #27:	WingsOfGood posted... https://www.wbrz.com/news/first-cases-of-covid-lambda-variant-reported-in-north-louisiana/ Fyi, this variant modified the spike protein it uses which is how it is vaccine resistant as that is how vaccines train your body to recognize covid. Except the article you linked to doesnt say that at all about the variant so where did you get that info from --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:956833710] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.wbrz.com/news/first-cases-of-covid-lambda-variant-reported-in-north-louisiana/ Fyi, this variant modified the spike protein it uses which is how it is vaccine resistant as that is how vaccines train your body to recognize covid.</quote>Except the article you linked to doesnt say that at all about the variant so where did you get that info from </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:25:07 PM #28:	CanuckCowboy posted... That's not what the article you pasted itt says at all though. In addition, states the study, the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, a unique 7-amino-acid deletion mutation in the N-terminal domain of the lambda spike protein, is responsible for evasion from neutralizing antibodies. ??? @CanuckCowboy <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956833773] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>CanuckCowboy posted... </cite> <quote>That's not what the article you pasted itt says at all though.</quote> <quote>In addition, states the study, the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, a unique 7-amino-acid deletion mutation in the N-terminal domain of the lambda spike protein, is responsible for evasion from neutralizing antibodies.</quote> ??? @CanuckCowboy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/06/21 12:31:43 PM #29:	"...we don't know whether this is going to be a more aggressive or less aggressive virus. ...the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. .... may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. --- "Mr. Fatass. Mr ugly cat! Mr can't even sell for 2 bucks!" ~ Jim Lahey https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:956833958] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>"...we don't know whether this is going to be a more aggressive or less aggressive virus. ...the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. .... may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:32:31 PM #30:	CanuckCowboy posted... "...we don't know whether this is going to be a more aggressive or less aggressive virus. ...the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. .... may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Do you believe the protein targetted by the Chinese vaccine is a different protein or something? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956833982] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>CanuckCowboy posted... </cite> <quote>"...we don't know whether this is going to be a more aggressive or less aggressive virus. ...the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. .... may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said.</quote> Do you believe the protein targetted by the Chinese vaccine is a different protein or something? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 08/06/21 12:35:23 PM #31:	Get shot now and take all boosters. Then wear mask even inside home. --- "Dribble these cheeks, Bugs"~ Lebron James don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:956834065] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Get shot now and take all boosters. Then wear mask even inside home. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/06/21 12:37:03 PM #32:	WingsOfGood posted... Do you believe the protein targetted by the Chinese vaccine is a different protein or something? Do you not read you're own articles? The dr repeatedly says they don't know and its too early to say and even that they think moderna / Pfizer will still work. You're topic: it's resistant to vaccines used here!!!! --- "Mr. Fatass. Mr ugly cat! Mr can't even sell for 2 bucks!" ~ Jim Lahey https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:956834111] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Do you believe the protein targetted by the Chinese vaccine is a different protein or something?</quote> Do you not read you're own articles? The dr repeatedly says they don't know and its too early to say and even that they think moderna / Pfizer will still work. You're topic: it's resistant to vaccines used here!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:38:56 PM #33:	CanuckCowboy posted... Do you not read you're own articles? The dr repeatedly says they don't know and its too early to say and even that they think moderna / Pfizer will still work. You're topic: it's resistant to vaccines used here!!!! multiple sources say lambda is vaccine resistant and it scientifcally makes sense as In addition, states the study, the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, a unique 7-amino-acid deletion mutation in the N-terminal domain of the lambda spike protein, is responsible for evasion from neutralizing antibodies. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956834156] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>CanuckCowboy posted... </cite> <quote>Do you not read you're own articles? The dr repeatedly says they don't know and its too early to say and even that they think moderna / Pfizer will still work. You're topic: it's resistant to vaccines used here!!!!</quote> multiple sources say lambda is vaccine resistant and it scientifcally makes sense as <quote>In addition, states the study, the RSYLTPGD246-253N mutation, a unique 7-amino-acid deletion mutation in the N-terminal domain of the lambda spike protein, is responsible for evasion from neutralizing antibodies.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 08/06/21 12:39:38 PM #34:	shockthemonkey posted... Im not anti-mask I just wont wear one even if its a good idea unless someone forces me to is such a weird line of thinking Are you really surprised that MK has a shit take on something? --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:956834183] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Im not anti-mask I just wont wear one even if its a good idea unless someone forces me to is such a weird line of thinking</quote> Are you really surprised that MK has a shit take on something? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/21 12:40:53 PM #35:	every fucking time i see a "vaccine resistant variant" headline i know everything in the actual story is going to say otherwise this shit should be moddable <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:956834228] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>every fucking time i see a "vaccine resistant variant" headline i know everything in the actual story is going to say otherwise this shit should be moddable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:41:34 PM #36:	btw this article from a few days ago also explains about how boosters work https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/ delta-infections-among-vaccinated-likely-contagious -lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-2021-08-02/ Third mRNA dose may boost antibody quantity, but not quality Among fully vaccinated people who never had COVID-19, getting a third dose of an mRNA vaccine from Pfizer (PFE.N)/BioNTech or Moderna (MRNA.O) would likely increase levels of antibodies, but not antibodies that are better able to neutralize new virus variants, Rockefeller University researchers reported on Thursday on bioRxiv ahead of peer review. They note that in COVID-19 survivors, the immune system's antibodies evolve during the first year, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants. In 32 volunteers who never had COVID-19, they found that antibodies induced by mRNA vaccines did evolve between the first and second shots. But five months later, vaccine-induced antibodies were "equivalent" to those seen after the second dose, with "little measurable improvement" in the antibodies' ability to neutralize a broad variety of new variants, said coauthor Michel Nussenzweig. Therefore, he said, giving those individuals a third dose of the same vaccine would likely result in higher levels of antibodies that remain less effective against variants. "At the moment, the vaccine remains protective against serious infection," Nussenzweig said. "Should we learn that efficacy is indeed waning for serious infection, which is not really the case to date," then a booster dose of "whatever is available" might become appropriate, he added. Should an updated vaccine become available that protects against specific variants, "then that would be the choice." <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956834241] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>btw this article from a few days ago also explains about how boosters work https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/ delta-infections-among-vaccinated-likely-contagious -lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-2021-08-02/ <quote>Third mRNA dose may boost antibody quantity, but not quality Among fully vaccinated people who never had COVID-19, getting a third dose of an mRNA vaccine from Pfizer (PFE.N)/BioNTech or Moderna (MRNA.O) would likely increase levels of antibodies, but not antibodies that are better able to neutralize new virus variants, Rockefeller University researchers reported on Thursday on bioRxiv ahead of peer review. They note that in COVID-19 survivors, the immune system's antibodies evolve during the first year, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants. In 32 volunteers who never had COVID-19, they found that antibodies induced by mRNA vaccines did evolve between the first and second shots. But five months later, vaccine-induced antibodies were "equivalent" to those seen after the second dose, with "little measurable improvement" in the antibodies' ability to neutralize a broad variety of new variants, said coauthor Michel Nussenzweig. Therefore, he said, giving those individuals a third dose of the same vaccine would likely result in higher levels of antibodies that remain less effective against variants. "At the moment, the vaccine remains protective against serious infection," Nussenzweig said. "Should we learn that efficacy is indeed waning for serious infection, which is not really the case to date," then a booster dose of "whatever is available" might become appropriate, he added. Should an updated vaccine become available that protects against specific variants, "then that would be the choice."</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rapid99 08/06/21 12:41:56 PM #37:	shockthemonkey posted... Im not anti-mask I just wont wear one even if its a good idea unless someone forces me to is such a weird line of thinking "I'm not anti-mask/vax, but" is the new "I hate the Republican Party, but" --- Formerly Smidge \| The last ASCII artist. https://gfascii.art/ <cite>Rapid99 posted [p:956834256] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Im not anti-mask I just wont wear one even if its a good idea unless someone forces me to is such a weird line of thinking</quote> "I'm not anti-mask/vax, but" is the new "I hate the Republican Party, but" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:42:23 PM #38:	Broseph_Stalin posted... every fucking time i see a "vaccine resistant variant" headline i know everything in the actual story is going to say otherwise this shit should be moddable Where does this say otherwise? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956834267] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>every fucking time i see a "vaccine resistant variant" headline i know everything in the actual story is going to say otherwise this shit should be moddable</quote> Where does this say otherwise? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/06/21 12:42:43 PM #39:	There may be some resistance but we arent sure, it was a different vaccine VACCINE RESISTANT COVID IN THE US Mods sleeping today eh --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:956834276] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>There may be some resistance but we arent sure, it was a different vaccine VACCINE RESISTANT COVID IN THE US Mods sleeping today eh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unclover028 08/06/21 12:43:13 PM #40:	I think this is what Republicans were hoping to see happen here cause now they know Democrats who are vaccinated won't or may not be protected from this and they will try their best to get it spread as much as possible all over the country or blue states for that matter. <cite>Unclover028 posted [p:956834286] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>I think this is what Republicans were hoping to see happen here cause now they know Democrats who are vaccinated won't or may not be protected from this and they will try their best to get it spread as much as possible all over the country or blue states for that matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unnamedsoldier 08/06/21 12:43:39 PM #41:	Man I'm so glad I got vaccinated so I that I still have to wear masks and locked up like before I got vaccinated What was even the point then <cite>unnamedsoldier posted [p:956834300] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Man I'm so glad I got vaccinated so I that I still have to wear masks and locked up like before I got vaccinated What was even the point then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/21 12:43:56 PM #42:	Unclover028 posted... cause now they know Democrats who are vaccinated won't be protected from this we are literally protected from this <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:956834307] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Unclover028 posted... </cite> <quote>cause now they know Democrats who are vaccinated won't be protected from this</quote> we are literally protected from this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/06/21 12:44:42 PM #43:	So give me the TL;DR: If Im vaccinated does it provide any protection against Lambda or no --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956834329] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>So give me the TL;DR: If Im vaccinated does it provide any protection against Lambda or no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:44:54 PM #44:	Shezarr posted... There may be some resistance but we arent sure, it was a different vaccine VACCINE RESISTANT COVID IN THE US Mods sleeping today eh Funny how you gravitate to an offhand statement like this but then a whole study which shows exactly how the vaccine resistance works is discounted and ignored. hmm. very odd indeed.... <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956834333] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>There may be some resistance but we arent sure, it was a different vaccine VACCINE RESISTANT COVID IN THE US Mods sleeping today eh</quote> Funny how you gravitate to an offhand statement like this but then a whole study which shows exactly how the vaccine resistance works is discounted and ignored. hmm. very odd indeed.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/06/21 12:45:02 PM #45:	The Lambda variant was first reported in Peru in December and has become the dominant strain of the virus there. It's concerning for the country because the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. "They have stated that there may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. Trending News It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Get the fuck out of here with this BS topic <cite>Axiom posted [p:956834335] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>The Lambda variant was first reported in Peru in December and has become the dominant strain of the virus there. It's concerning for the country because the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. "They have stated that there may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. Trending News It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Get the fuck out of here with this BS topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 08/06/21 12:45:46 PM #46:	WingsOfGood posted... It was first reported in the U.S. in Houston and health care officials believe since Texas and Louisiana share a border We should have a serious talk about building a wall around Texas. SOOOOOO fucking tired of their redneck bullshit yee haw muh rights attitude fucking over the rest of the country. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:956834353] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>It was first reported in the U.S. in Houston and health care officials believe since Texas and Louisiana share a border</quote> We should have a serious talk about building a wall around Texas. SOOOOOO fucking tired of their redneck bullshit yee haw muh rights attitude fucking over the rest of the country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:47:57 PM #47:	Axiom posted... The Lambda variant was first reported in Peru in December and has become the dominant strain of the virus there. It's concerning for the country because the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. "They have stated that there may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. Trending News It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Get the fuck out of here with this BS topic Welp. We very well might have another delta on our hands as people refuse to believe something due to their own personal bias and not scientific evidences. Later when more studies state the vaccine resistance as this study above does, what will you say then after you failed to take precautions? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956834418] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Axiom posted... </cite> <quote>The Lambda variant was first reported in Peru in December and has become the dominant strain of the virus there. It's concerning for the country because the vaccine used in Peru is not effective against this new variant. "They have stated that there may be some resistance to the vaccine, but that it was a different vaccine that they were using. They were using the Chinese vaccine," Dr. Russo said. Trending News It's unknown how well the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines will help control this new variant. "It's too early to tell, but we do think the vaccine is working against [the] variant as well," Dr. Russo said. Get the fuck out of here with this BS topic</quote> Welp. We very well might have another delta on our hands as people refuse to believe something due to their own personal bias and not scientific evidences. Later when more studies state the vaccine resistance as this study above does, what will you say then after you failed to take precautions? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/21 12:51:20 PM #48:	Guys the Omega variant is definitely vaccine resistant, trust me this time <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:956834504] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Guys the Omega variant is definitely vaccine resistant, trust me this time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/06/21 12:52:15 PM #49:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Guys the Omega variant is definitely vaccine resistant, trust me this time I am not asking anyone to trust me. I just relaying the news to you. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956834518] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Guys the Omega variant is definitely vaccine resistant, trust me this time</quote> I am not asking anyone to trust me. I just relaying the news to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/06/21 12:53:59 PM #50:	PoundGarden posted... We should have a serious talk about building a wall around Texas. SOOOOOO fucking tired of their redneck bullshit yee haw muh rights attitude fucking over the rest of the country. you dont like Texas and you dont like pibbles? youre great --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956834569] in Lambda arr... [t:79601314]...</cite> <quote>PoundGarden posted... </cite> <quote>We should have a serious talk about building a wall around Texas. SOOOOOO fucking tired of their redneck bullshit yee haw muh rights attitude fucking over the rest of the country.</quote> you dont like Texas and you dont like pibbles? youre great </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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