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Will_VIIII posted...

He earned a MAGA tag with that remark

A MAGA who probably holds more progressive ideas than you, voted against Trump twice, and constantly shits on the right

Sounds about right

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Will_VIIII posted...

He earned a MAGA tag with that remark

Even if he hadn't his follow up sure does.

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Samurontai posted...

A MAGA who probably holds more progressive ideas than you

Sounds about right

Please point out where my posts ITT indicate I don't have progressive views

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Killbotz: makes numerous valid points and has quality discussion.

You: hurr durr leftists!

You're responding to a guy who abandoned his own topic about defunding the police after people came in with actual stats that made him look bad

archedsoul posted...

Also nobody ever has any real solution because insane rent prices arr definitely a giant problem. Just la la land shit like public housing. Have any of you actually been to any government run public housing before?

I'd say this is more so an argument that the quality of government housing should be improved, not that the idea itself is la la land shit. The idea is good in theory, especially if you define a state as an entity that is beholden to benefitting and providing for the people

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Even if he hadn't his follow up sure does.

Idk, I like my tag better

Will_VIIII posted...

Please point out where my posts ITT indicate I don't have progressive views

Will_VIIII posted...

He earned a MAGA tag with that remark

If you think anyone who hates progressives are MAGA, and most of the country hates progressives, then youre making the claim that most of America is just MAGA country. Doesnt sound very progressive to me tbh

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Averagejoel has completely given up on rebutting anything lol cant risk accidentally challenging his worldview
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Your throwing around "leftists" is what did it genius

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Will_VIIII posted...

Your throwing around "leftists" is what did it genius

Ahh, so you just dont know anything about politics

Everything makes sense now. Why even bother posting about politics when you have no idea what youre talking about?

Also I didnt throw it around. I used it once lmao

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Samurontai posted...

Ahh, so you just dont know anything about politics

Everything makes sense now. Why even bother posting about politics when you have no idea what youre talking about?

Also I didnt throw it around. I used it once lmao

Ah MAGA projection

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Will_VIIII posted...

Ah MAGA projection

Oh, you dont know what projection means either

Did you learn a bunch of new words today or something?

Fitting tag btw



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g980 posted...

Averagejoel has completely given up on rebutting anything lol cant risk accidentally challenging his worldview

there's nothing to rebut

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The United States: the only country on the planet who's citizens whine, cry, and act like it's some inhumane ask that people pay for the roof over their head. The entitlement is disgusting, this is why the rest of the world hates us.

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Samurontai posted...

Oh, you dont know what projection means either

Did you learn a bunch of new words today or something?

Fitting tag btw

Thanks for affirming that isn't necessary to take you seriously or even be respectful to you.

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averagejoel posted...

there's nothing to rebut

Wow super convenient
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Will_VIIII posted...

Thanks for affirming that isn't necessary to take you seriously or even be respectful to you.

You started it by calling me a MAGA. Im sure youll be a valued member of your commune though, dw. Just make sure you do your part (and anyones slacking) so you get enough rations for your family everyday. And go ahead and throw your degree away (if you have one), itll be useless in your commune.

Gl comrade -salute-

Edit: and hey, cleaning (literal) shit is probably the most important job. Dont look at it as something degrading. You will be valued incredibly, and get nothing extra to show for it

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PoundGarden posted...

The United States: the only country on the planet who's citizens whine, cry, and act like it's some inhumane ask that people pay for the roof over their head. The entitlement is disgusting, this is why the rest of the world hates us.

I was under the impression that the world hates the US because of its rampant interventionalist policies, the CIA toppling democratically elected leaders and installing puppet governments, or our incredibly racist and culturally ignorant populace

I feel enlightened to know that they just hate poor people

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Samurontai posted...

You started it by calling me a MAGA. Im sure youll be a valued member of your commune though, dw. Just make sure you do your part (and anyones slacking) so you get enough rations for your family everyday. And go ahead and throw your degree away (if you have one), itll be useless in your commune.

Gl comrade -salute-

Like the case with most MAGAs, reading comprehension and understanding the order of events is a struggle.

You were the first to be inflammatory, and I already clarified I'm a home owner in this topic.

MAGAs really are a special level of stupid.

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Will_VIIII posted...

Like the case with most MAGAs, reading comprehension and understanding the order of events is a struggle.

You were the first to be inflammatory, and I already clarified I'm a home owner in this topic.

MAGAs really are a special level of stupid.

I wasnt inflammatory to you, I was inflammatory to leftists who dont know anything about economics, specifically.

Thanks for confirming that though!

Also nobody cares that your mommy and daddy bought you a house. Doesnt make you any more knowledgeable on the topic than anyone else.

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I'd kick them the fuck out and tell them that's the "risk" of renting.


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hyperpowder posted...

I'd kick them the fuck out and tell them that's the "risk" of renting.

Thats because youre based as fuck

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Will_VIIII posted...

Like the case with most MAGAs, reading comprehension and understanding the order of events is a struggle.

You were the first to be inflammatory, and I already clarified I'm a home owner in this topic.

MAGAs really are a special level of stupid.

That dude actually thinks he's fooling people. He'll drop a few comments disparaging Republicans for plausible deniability, then when it gets down to brass tacks, the things he argues for align pretty closely with conservative values.

Shady as shit

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Samurontai posted...

Also nobody cares that your mommy and daddy bought you a house.

Cringy response from a MAGA I'm shocked

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Gwynevere posted...

I was under the impression that the world hates the US because of its rampant interventionalist policies, the CIA toppling democratically elected leaders and installing puppet governments, or our incredibly racist and culturally ignorant populace

I feel enlightened to know that they just hate poor people

I was saying our disgusting entitlement is a reason other countries resent us.

But you knew that.

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Gwynevere posted...

That dude actually thinks he's fooling people. He'll drop a few comments disparaging Republicans for plausible deniability, then when it gets down to brass tacks, the things he argues for align pretty closely with conservative values.

Shady as shit

I wasn't familiar with the idiot prior to this topic, they got a reputation for this huh.

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I bought a townhouse almost 5 years ago that I currently still live in. My mortgage and HOA dues add up to ~$1k/mo. For a 2 bed/2.5 BR in a nice area that's not bad at all, the run down apartment I stayed in during college costed more than that (think it's been converted to section 8 housing since then). I'm getting married in less than a year and if me and my fiancee decide to start a family of our own, we'll need a bigger place.

I was planning on just keeping the townhouse and renting it out when the time comes to move, it's in a pretty nice complex with good amenities and a good neighborhood. Figured someone who couldn't afford to purchase such a place could benefit by finding reasonable rent prices in a good area, perhaps college students that want a better choice than the seedy apartments near campus like I had to do if they cant afford to live on campus.

After the past year or so and seeing the attitude towards landlords, those plans have pretty much changed. Not just because of that, also don't think it's worth the maintenance and potential incurred losses that come with being a landlord. Just gonna sell it to someone who can afford to purchase it outright and then they can either live in it or rent it out and deal with all that.

I'm not trying to say landlords are some kind of angels or that they're not trying to make a buck, but they do offer another option for people that don't want to live in shitty government housing/corporate apartment complexes but also can't afford to put a down payment on a mortgage. If we dissuade enough private landlords from offering to rent, then that option will cease to exist and renters will be left with corporate and government housing, which I don't think will be any less greedy, plus the areas available to live will shrink as well.
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Will_VIIII posted...

Cringy response from a MAGA I'm shocked

I love how you didnt even bother denying it

Thats the real cringe. A privileged, sheltered suburbanite acting like they know all about the blights people are actually facing. Theres a reason why most people in this country hate people like you

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Gwynevere posted...

That dude actually thinks he's fooling people. He'll drop a few comments disparaging Republicans for plausible deniability, then when it gets down to brass tacks, the things he argues for align pretty closely with conservative values.

Shady as shit

Name one thing Ive argued that aligns closely with conservatives, I would love to see it lol

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Well for the record no, my parents did not pay for my house. I budgeted and saved to make a down payment.

Also I clarified my experience in apartment living.

You really struggle with reading comprehension huh

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Will_VIIII posted...

Well for the record no, my parents did not pay for my house. I budgeted and saved to make a down payment.

It took you this long to google how to buy a house. Im truly embarrassed for you

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Samurontai posted...

Name some things Ive argued that aligns closely with conservatives, I would love to see it lol

Ill give you the first one. I like guns. Hot take, I know

The whole thread where you were calling for increased police presence in cities, then abandoned it when the data proved you wrong lol

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Samurontai posted...

It took you this long to google how to buy a house. Im truly embarrassed for you

Incoherent too huh

I mean dude you absolutely got clowned but lack the awareness to see this and are quadrupling down on the stupidity.

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Gwynevere posted...

The whole thread where you were calling for increased police presence in cities, then abandoned it when the data proved you wrong lol

What a fool XD

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Gwynevere posted...

The whole thread where you were calling for increased police presence in cities, then abandoned it when the data proved you wrong lol

Ohh, the topic where you couldnt get over the fact that most black people want a local police presence, and most (dem) cities who were planning on implementing a defund the police policy, ended up 180ing. Iirc, that topic was entirely demoted to semantics over whether or not these cities actually implemented anything (which I later proved that some indeed did, and were backtracking it)

Defunding the police isnt even popular on the left, so sorry. Next?

Edit: New tag

I feel like the dishonest ones like you would be delegated to hard labor tbh

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Samurontai posted...

Ohh, the topic where you couldnt get over the fact that most black people want a local police presence, and most (dem) cities who were planning on implementing a defund the police policy, ended up 180ing. Iirc, that topic was entirely demoted to semantics over whether or not these cities actually implemented anything (which I later proved that some indeed did, and were backtracking it)

Defunding the police isnt even popular on the left, so sorry. Next?

I can't believe you actually want to do this again lol

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/activists-want-to-defund-how-do-other-countries- curb-police-excesses/article_363c1712-f8e7-52ce-85cf-394e786e35a1.html

America spends far less on social programs than most of the 37 advanced countries that make up the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. But it spends more per capita on policing than any other country except Luxembourg, and at 5.3% the U.S. ranks first in spending as a percent of total government expenditures.

And American police officers are significantly less trained than their counterparts in other nations, and way more likely to use force, all too often with deadly results.

So yes, it's already a closed case proven by other countries that we can reduce police spending if we also reroute the funds to improved social programs.

Also posting screenshots of the tags is only ensuring that everyone else is gonna call you out in every future topic

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What a

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Gwynevere posted...

I can't believe you actually want to do this again lol

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/activists-want-to-defund-how-do-other-countries- curb-police-excesses/article_363c1712-f8e7-52ce-85cf-394e786e35a1.html

America spends far less on social programs than most of the 37 advanced countries that make up the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. But it spends more per capita on policing than any other country except Luxembourg, and at 5.3% the U.S. ranks first in spending as a percent of total government expenditures.

And American police officers are significantly less trained than their counterparts in other nations, and way more likely to use force, all too often with deadly results.

So yes, it's already a closed case proven by other countries that we can reduce police spending if we also reroute the funds to improved social programs.

Thats not arguing against anything I said, literally at all.

Here, lets try to get back on topic before you start moving the goalposts like you usually do.

We are talking about the popularity behind it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/07/usa-today-ipsos-poll-just-18-support-defund-police-movement/4599232001/

Only 18% of respondents supported the movement known as "defund the police," and 58% said they opposed it. Though white Americans (67%) and Republicans (84%) were much more likely to oppose the movement, only 28% of Black Americans and 34% of Democrats were in favor of it.


poll from last year

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Will_VIIII posted...

What a

Itll be okay buddy, I promise you. I would give you a psychiatrist recommendation but our commune hasnt worked hard enough so we are low on funds rn

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Samurontai posted...

Thats not arguing against anything I said, literally at all.

Here, lets try to get back on topic before you start moving the goalposts like you usually do.

We are talking about the popularity behind it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/07/usa-today-ipsos-poll-just-18-support-defund-police-movement/4599232001/

Only 18% of respondents supported the movement known as "defund the police," and 58% said they opposed it. Though white Americans (67%) and Republicans (84%) were much more likely to oppose the movement, only 28% of Black Americans and 34% of Democrats were in favor of it.


poll from last year

You're more interested in arguing what's popular over what actually works.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/02/13/marshall-project-more-cops-dont-mean-less-crime-experts-say/2818056002/

Data shows that the raw numbers of police have declined over the past five years, and the rate of police officers per 1,000 residents has been dropping for two decades. At the same time, the violent crime rate has also dropped.

Regardless of how people vote in polls, the data doesn't lie. The amount of police presence doesn't dictate the crime rate.

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Samurontai posted...

Itll be okay buddy, I promise you. I would give you a psychiatrist recommendation but our commune hasnt worked hard enough so we are low on funds rn

Incoherent and cringey

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Gwynevere posted...

You're more interested in arguing what's popular over what actually works.

Yes, because that was the initial argument lmao

Gwynevere posted...

The whole thread where you were calling for increased police presence in cities, then abandoned it when the data proved you wrong lol

Thats what my argument in that thread was about lmao. My argument was that defund the police was incredibly unpopular, even amongst democrats

I know itd work, but theres no point in having a discussion about what would work when its incredibly unpopular to begin with

Taking all the guns away from US citizens by force would also probably work to reduce crime. Doesnt mean it will happen, because its incredibly unpopular

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Samurontai posted...

know itd work, but theres no point in having a discussion about what would work when its incredibly unpopular to begin with

Hard disagree, that's a mentality that holds us back. Plus having actual discussion about it is the only way for it to enter the public consciousness and become more popular in the first place

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Gwynevere posted...

Hard disagree, that's a mentality that holds us back. Plus having actual discussion about it is the only way for it to enter the public consciousness and become more popular in the first place

You are correct. Discussion has to be made before things are actually implemented. Defund the police is incredibly unpopular now because people were trying to do it the other way around.

As of now, it definitely wouldnt work, because most people are just against it. It has horrible phrasing, and just awful optics to most people, according to the data. And apparently cities dont even know how to properly implement it.

Discussion has to be had before trying to implement something like resource reallocation

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Samurontai posted...

Idk, I like my tag better

If you think anyone who hates progressives are MAGA, and most of the country hates progressives, then youre making the claim that most of America is just MAGA country. Doesnt sound very progressive to me tbh

You're fucking adorable bud.

"This guy disagreed with something I said! He's a commie! He's a dirty commie!!!!"

Yep. You're clearly progressive. Lmao.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

You're fucking adorable bud.

Please stop, my sides lmfao

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We've had the discussion for police reform for decades. People didn't care then, because police wasn't hurting them.

The 'optics' is irrelevant. Human right issues shouldn't be addressed based on whatever or not it's popular.

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Umbreon posted...

We've had the discussion for police reform for decades. People didn't care then, because police wasn't hurting them.

The 'optics' is irrelevant. Human right issues shouldn't be addressed based on whatever or not it's popular.

Optics are incredibly important lmao. If none of the people who voted for you want something, and you do it anyway, it will not end well for you or your city.

This has been incredibly noticeable for the last decade

Also I love how youre trying to claim that nothing has changed over the last decade, or at least are insinuating that.

Youre just wrong

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Again, human rights shouldn't be based off what's trendy or marketable. Abolishing slavery wasn't popular a long time ago, and it was wrong when the founding fathers permitted it at all.

Samurontai posted...

Also I love how youre trying to claim that nothing has changed over the last decade, or at least are insinuating that.

You are, once again, mistaken. There has been changes, just not enough of them. We would have never known what happened to George Floyd if a civilian didn't record his murder. That type of status quo still exists, and it cannot be tolerated.

But it is, because it doesn't hurt people who care more about optics than people.

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Make sure you properly tag Samurai

g980 posted...

So you think everyone should have to buy a home or otherwise be homeless

Have the government run the rental market not for profit.

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The-Apostle posted...

I've heard of a tenant who doesn't pay rent yet has three boats, and there's nothing the landlord can do about it.

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