Current Events > CDC confirms vaccinated people can infect others easily

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I can understand the frustation in seeing COVID case rising and I can understand why members like Will_VIIII would not be happy to see those who are against vaccines and mask.

I am wrong in wanting mask to stop being mandatory, seriously I can't stop being wrong when it comes to this subject. This is why it is good to debate, opinions can be changed after many discussion.

Debating can change people mind and not insulting and swearing.

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Itachi157 posted...

I don't think there's any way to say cognitive decline is permanent if covid has only been around since December of 2019.

I heard post-viral syndrome from other viruses can cause that as well, is it permanent in those cases?

I thought I read somewhere that getting vaccinated after getting covid-19 has shown to restore some cognitive decline

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Will_VIIII posted...

I consider neo nazis my enemies.

Why would I respect them in any way?

Same sentiment applies to anti vaxxers and anti maskers

you do you mate, I just think that's a little weak

This shit makes me angry. Us normal people have suffered enough and now these antivaxxers and antimaskers are just making shit worse and won't fucking learn their lesson. Fuck them and fuck all of their enablers.


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ZMythos posted...

This shit makes me angry. Us normal people have suffered enough and now these antivaxxers and antimaskers are just making shit worse and won't fucking learn their lesson. Fuck them and fuck all of their enablers.

But it's apparently weak to think this way!

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nah, I don't think I will

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Will_VIIII posted...

But it's apparently weak to think this way!

it is!

it's not your fault though, nobody's perfect and we all gotta work on becoming better version of ourselves!

ROOTFayth posted...

it is!

it's not your fault though, nobody's perfect and we all gotta work on becoming better version of ourselves!

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ROOTFayth posted...

it is!

it's not your fault though, nobody's perfect and we all gotta work on becoming better version of ourselves!

Shut the fuck up.

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Hey, at least dipshits got to enjoy their freedom!

But yeah, it's time we stopped asking.

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Vampire_Wreath posted...

@Bleuets

It's time to follow the science

funny how people only want to follow the science when its convenient for them

Umbreon posted...

Hey, at least dipshits got to enjoy their freedom!

But yeah, it's time we stopped asking.

look I think the best course of action is for everyone to get vaccinated but realistically everytime you give rope to the government to restrict anything really, they never give it back, we're stuck with it, so yeah people should get vaccinated, no it shouldn't be mandatory, it sets a terrible precedent

Will_VIIII posted...

But it's apparently weak to think this way!

Tell me this can't he make his point without swearing? Why must insults be used when discussing?

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The end game of all this is a perpetual cycle of lockdowns until people start taking this seriously.

uwa ej posted...

The end game of all this is a perpetual cycle of lockdowns until people start taking this seriously.

oh yea, Im sure thats gonna happen

uwa ej posted...

The end game of all this is a perpetual cycle of lockdowns until people start taking this seriously.

lol no, lockdowns are over, the end game is rolling with it, we gotta keep the economy rolling, lockdowns are no longer options

on the brightside when you look at the UK, their cases have gone way up with the Delta variant and now are going down and the deaths haven't risen much, so the vaccine is effective to prevent deaths/hospitalisation so yeah as long as healthcare is not overwhelmed I think we're good

also if you're fat, please stop being fat

kingdrake2 posted...

oh god. don't want that.
still not as bad as a broken weiner from covid.

mmmm being honest I worry about both those two things, but I'm not currently getting laid, and boner pills exist, but cognitive decline-reversal pills do not, at least not that I'm aware of, and I know I can't afford an ~8.5 point IQ drop

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ROOTFayth posted...

look I think the best course of action is for everyone to get vaccinated but realistically everytime you give rope to the government to restrict anything really, they never give it back, we're stuck with it, so yeah people should get vaccinated, no it shouldn't be mandatory, it sets a terrible precedent

Nah, mandatory vaccination. Those fuckers had their chance to get with the program willingly. If they want to act like children, time to treat them like children.

Without responsibility, there is no 'freedom'. Only chaos. Which is what we have now, because our 'patriots' would rather their countrymen die than than follow pandemic rules.

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Oeoeo23 posted...

mmmm being honest I worry about both those two things, but I'm not currently getting laid, and boner pills exist, but cognitive decline-reversal pills do not, at least not that I'm aware of, and I know I can't afford an ~8.5 point IQ drop

boner pills apparently don't help much because it's something to do with blood vessels being "broken"

Umbreon posted...

Nah, mandatory vaccination. Those fuckers had their chance to get with the program willingly. If they want to act like children, time to treat them like children.

Without responsibility, there is no 'freedom'. Only chaos. Which is what we have now, because our 'patriots' would rather their countrymen die than than follow pandemic rules.

that aint gonna happen. So whats the real plan?

Umbreon posted...

Nah, mandatory vaccination. Those fuckers had their chance to get with the program willingly. If they want to act like children, time to treat them like children.

Without responsibility, there is no 'freedom'. Only chaos. Which is what we have now, because our 'patriots' would rather their countrymen die than than follow pandemic rules.

mandatory vaccination sets a terrible precedent man, we can't allow that

for what it's worth you guys are all panicking saying bla bla it's the fault of anti vaxxers but keep in mind that pandemics usually last between 2 and 7 years, it's been barely a year and a half, even if 100% of pop was vaccinated we'd still have massive uproar in cases, just less deaths and hospitalisations

ROOTFayth posted...

mandatory vaccination sets a terrible precedent man, we can't allow that

There is no mandatory vaccine, however there will be limits to what people can do without vaccines. They can't go to certain shops, events, doctors, etc.

Eventually people will need a COVID passport.

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We should rename Delta to COVID-21 at this point.

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Bleuets posted...

that aint gonna happen

Then we die, because viruses don't care why you don't want to wear a mask.

ROOTFayth posted...

mandatory vaccination sets a terrible precedent man

Fuck the 'precedent'. Y'all had your chance to avoid it. We now have a precedent where wearing masks are a political statement because our previous idiot in chief called the pandemic a hoax.

(Also vaccines are already mandatory for schools, are they not?)

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Umbreon posted...

Then we die, because viruses don't care why you don't want to wear a mask.


Fuck the 'precedent'. Y'all had your chance to avoid it. We now have a precedent where wearing masks are a political statement because our previous idiot in chief called the pandemic a hoax.

(Also vaccines are already mandatory for schools, are they not?)

you can make vaccines a requirement for X, Y or Z but not mandatory in the sense you're saying, we just have to find strategies to incentivize people to do it, it's going to take time anyway it won't happen overnight, be patient

edit: also we don't die, that was the whole point of getting vaccinated lol

Id be for incentivizing the vaccine . Id say $1,500. I bet wed see record numbers at that point.

ROOTFayth posted...

we just have to find strategies to incentivize people to do it

No access to public places until you get the vaccine perhaps?

(Exemptions for those who medically can't get the vaccine)

And yes, showing your card would be necessary. No honor system bullshit.

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We tried the honor system, the freedom to make a choice system. It failed. Humans, especially us here in America, are arrogant know it alls.

Mandatory vaccines is probably a bad idea. But I'm all for businesses and other places requiring proof of vaccination. I'm all for mandatory masks.

We tried to the freedom route and it failed. People are too stupid to do the right thing.
I'm tired of it. Most people who are anti Vax and anti mask have already made up their minds. Reason, logic, and science won't change their minds. So its time to call them out as fuckin idiots. Ban them from everywhere cuz they are the reason this is still as bad as it is.

If you're anti Vax or anti mask, might as well block me cuz you're a piece of shit and nothing you say matters.

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Is cognitive decline while you are infected or remains after?

could be permanent, could just last a (long) variable amount of time. we don't really know yet

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Bleuets posted...

Id be for incentivizing the vaccine . Id say $1,500. I bet wed see record numbers at that point.

I mean we could do that but in the end we'll just end up paying that 1500$ back in taxes/inflation

people are very dumb when it comes to money though so I think it could work, the lottery worked to some extent and the expected value of a participation based on getting the vaccine was less than 1$ lol

Bleuets posted...

Id be for incentivizing the vaccine . Id say $1,500. I bet wed see record numbers at that point.

But only once you have both shots properly.

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Bleuets posted...

that aint gonna happen. So whats the real plan?

all we can say for sure is that the virus isn't going to go away on its own and we're never going to get to the point where we just ignore it, because anti-mask/vax denier types are an idiotic minority that will never hold power for an extended period of time

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ThyCorndog posted...

all we can say for sure is that the virus isn't going to go away on its own and we're never going to get to the point where we just ignore it, because anti-mask/vax denier types are an idiotic minority that will never hold power for an extended period of time

we will def get to a point where we "ignore" it, the same way we "ignore" the flu, some people take the vaccines, some don't and we just accept that plenty of people are dying from it every year

ROOTFayth posted...

boner pills apparently don't help much because it's something to do with blood vessels being "broken"

MF'ing terrifying


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Oeoeo23 posted...

MF'ing terrifying

bah I mean that is a very rare side effect, you can get Guillain Barr Syndrom from just catching a cold and it's also pretty fuckin terrifying but we don't really worry about it given it doesn't happen nearly often enough

ROOTFayth posted...

we will def get to a point where we "ignore" it, the same way we "ignore" the flu, some people take the vaccines, some don't and we just accept that plenty of people are dying from it every year

depends if we're going to wait years for it to mutate into less deadly variants on its own. I doubt it. though we might involuntarily wait that way if dumbasses keep forcing us to yo-yo between taking the virus seriously and ignoring it

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There is something we all have in common, we all want COVID to disappear. Where I live we reached 0, things went back to normal but when tourist started coming and everything was back to normal the number increased a bit until now it is really high.

I am sick and tired of mandatory mask, but I guess I have to learn to live with that rule.

Visiting elder in the elder resident isn't allowed and the fair has been cancelled due to COVID.

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wait hold on

The data emerged over the last couple of days from over 100 samples from several states and one other country. It is unpublished, and the CDC has not released it. But it is concerning enough that we feel like we have to act, Walensky said

wtf is this shit. this is some "my uncle who works at nintendo" shit

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_BlueMonk posted...

wait hold on

wtf is this shit. this is some "my uncle who works at nintendo" shit

We have nothing to announce at this time.

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ThyCorndog posted...

depends if we're going to wait years for it to mutate into less deadly variants on its own. I doubt it. though we might involuntarily wait that way if dumbasses keep forcing us to yo-yo between taking the virus seriously and ignoring it

I mean I don't know why you put it entirely on the fault of people not taking it seriously, tons of people being extremely wary get infected daily, even if 100% of pop is vaccinated and everybody wears masks 24/7 we'll still get a plenty of infections and the virus will mutate because the whole world can't stay home for weeks and ignore life until the virus goes away

So get vaccinated

ROOTFayth posted...

I mean I don't know why you put it entirely on the fault of people not taking it seriously, tons of people being extremely wary get infected daily, even if 100% of pop is vaccinated and everybody wears masks 24/7 we'll still get a plenty of infections and the virus will mutate because the whole world can't stay home for weeks and ignore life until the virus goes away

obviously the cat's out of the fucking bag now. if everyone was onboard with taking it seriously from the get-go, we probably would have avoided all of this. a virus spreading is not inevitable

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Mandated vaccines aren't gonna happen

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Mr_Karate_II posted...

Mandated vaccines aren't gonna happen

They are doing it in NY

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Looks like masks are here to stay.

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