Poll of the Day > George w. bush says the u.s. shouldn't withdraw troops from afghanistan

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Mead posted...

Its a shitty situation. I dont know what the right thing to do is. I want troops home but also we should not be leaving people behind who will be killed. They helped us and now we are not helping them when they need it.

There are only about 2,000 troops over there anyways. I doubt they can so much outside of guarding a few key officials. You can easily have private security do that. Ultimately, the US presence is mostly symbolic at this point. There is little public will to have troops stationed in that wasteland

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InfernalFive posted...

If that's the case then we might as well imprison every president for "war crimes" lol

well yeah. if every US president tells lies that kill hundreds of thousands of people we should execute them all

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DragonClaw01 posted...

There are only about 2,000 troops over there anyways. I doubt they can so much outside of guarding a few key officials. You can easily have private security do that. Ultimately, the US presence is mostly symbolic at this point. There is little public will to have troops stationed in that wasteland

they could get those people out of there

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PK_Spam posted...

we have military bases in like every country around the world.

Were the hostile foreign power

Only works when those bases are *unwanted* and being used to occupy those nations. (Which is probably the case somewhere. I know that the Japanese government likes the US there, but the people might want us out... although that's not occupying)

OhhhJa posted...

I think maybe the worst thing about trump's presidency is that people seem to be nostalgia goggling GWB now. Dude was possibly the worst president this country has ever seen

GWB wouldn't even be close. Even in his case, the problem was PR. He was viewed negatively despite never going as far as Obama did when it came to violating human rights (with the exception of "enhanced interrogation" and extraordinary rendition) and iirc he was never as opposed to the extent Obama was concerning basic freedoms (whereas Obama made John Adams like a nice guy).

In general, the next time a Republican gets into office, the machine is going to go after them so hard it'll make people nostalgic for Trump. That's what they do.


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GanonsSpirit posted...

Why is anyone seriously arguing with helly? Literally everyone except him refers to them as HW and W.

I refer to them as Bush 41 and Bush 43

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DragonClaw01 posted...

There are only about 2,000 troops over there anyways. I doubt they can so much outside of guarding a few key officials. You can easily have private security do that. Ultimately, the US presence is mostly symbolic at this point.

And the symbolism more than anything has helped to keep some things in check. The fact that Biden moved the withdrawal date to 9/11 is possibly the biggest way of letting terrorists know they won.

And sure, it's a bad situation and nobody really wants to be there, but we toppled the government so there's some obligation to be there until gets put back in place... although if they reinstated the draft for it, I'd be 100% against US involvement there. Voluntary enlistment makes US involvement seem less awful.


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MrMelodramatic posted...

I refer to them as Bush 41 and Bush 43

Who are Bushes 1-40 and 42?

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Zeus posted...

Who are Bushes 1-40 and 42?

Non existent

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Zeus posted...

GWB wouldn't even be close. Even in his case, the problem was PR. He was viewed negatively despite never going as far as Obama did when it came to violating human rights (with the exception of "enhanced interrogation" and extraordinary rendition) and iirc he was never as opposed to the extent Obama was concerning basic freedoms (whereas Obama made John Adams like a nice guy).

People give Obama a lot of flack for the drones, but honestly how else could you play the war? Boots on the ground are only good at getting shot at and blown up by ieds, but the drones allow us to attack the enemy without any risk of retaliation. Same result: dead enemy, but with far less risk to US troops. If we where using conventional methods we would have been out of the war long ago. The only reason you can even contemplate staying is because the drones do some much of the dirty work now. That is how you can control a country roughly the size of Texas with 2,500 troops.


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Mead posted...

get your own shoes

i totally took that one dudes shoes though lmao

get rekt baby

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MrMelodramatic posted...

Non existent

42 is jeb
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