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Mike_Stanton
07/11/21 5:15:28 AM
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how is calling a team the "Vikings" not offensive to Nordic people?

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g0ldie
07/11/21 5:16:01 AM
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how are the two equivalent?

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spikethedevil
07/11/21 5:17:01 AM
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One of them was/is a racist way of describing Native Americans the other is what they where actually called.

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Guide
07/11/21 5:17:12 AM
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Did we fuck the Vikings over, too?

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Mike_Stanton
07/11/21 5:18:33 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
One of them was/is a racist way of describing Native Americans the other is what they where actually called.
Native Americans actually were called "Redskins" too.

Guide posted...
Did we fuck the Vikings over, too?
The Vikings fucked other people over.

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Xethuminra
07/11/21 5:18:47 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
One of them was/is a racist way of describing Native Americans the other is what they where actually called.

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Kylo_Ren_
07/11/21 5:20:56 AM
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What if they were called the "Washington Native Americans". Is it still offensive?

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spikethedevil
07/11/21 5:22:06 AM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
Native Americans actually were called "Redskins" too.

The Vikings fucked other people over.


Yes they were called redskins by racist idiots of the time and took offence to it. Take the L and leave.

The Vikings were also explorers, traders and even artisans.

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spikethedevil
07/11/21 5:22:19 AM
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Kylo_Ren_ posted...
What if they were called the "Washington Native Americans". Is it still offensive?

No but it would be weird as is the name Minisota Vikings.

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Doe
07/11/21 5:22:47 AM
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Redskin has a history of being a pejorative.

As far as I know, Scandinavians have never been the subject of significant racism in the United States, while Native Americans were systematically removed from their land and killed.

Viking also refers to a specific, identifiable culture that no longer really exists, while 'Redskin' is as broad as all Native Americans.

Like imagine if there was a sports team called the Kansas City Blacks and their team mascot was a mockup of Mansa Musa.

Except instead of 'Blacks' it was a word that had official usage in the past but can also be a slur.

Obviously that would be fucked up

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Ryven
07/11/21 5:24:18 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Yes they were called redskins by racist idiots of the time and took offence to it. Take the L and leave.

The Vikings were also explorers, traders and even artisans.


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Zikten
07/11/21 5:25:58 AM
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Viking has never been, in the past or now, a slur. It's just what they are called. Its not an offensive term

The other word is.
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pegusus123456
07/11/21 5:26:06 AM
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So sick of these dumbass takes where we ignore all historical context to argue that it's okay to use racial slurs because people call us crackers.

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nfearurspecimn
07/11/21 5:26:35 AM
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butters is at it again

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Xethuminra
07/11/21 5:30:07 AM
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The Snyders!! (After their owner)
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joe40001
07/11/21 5:36:50 AM
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People are sensitive about skin color.

This is a more apt comparison if they go after the braves.

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Kylo_Ren_
07/11/21 12:50:53 PM
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What does this mean for the Cleveland Indians?

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SevenTenths
07/11/21 12:54:44 PM
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Because Vikings aren't around to leverage white guilt for donations.

spikethedevil posted...
One of them was/is a racist way of describing Native Americans the other is what they where actually called.

https://www.britannica.com/list/5-fast-facts-about-vikings

Vikings didnt call themselves Vikings, as this term doesnt apply to any specific group or tribe of people. During the Viking Age (c. 7901066 CE), the countries of Scandinavia as we know them today didnt exist, and people settled mostly in scattered clans and tribes throughout the region. The word viking meant piracy or freebooting voyage in Old Norse and was something one would do, rather than a personal descriptorgo on a viking.

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KiwiTerraRizing
07/11/21 12:58:48 PM
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Change the Viking name too, dont give a shit.

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Xethuminra
07/11/21 12:59:23 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Change the Viking name too, dont give a shit.
Why not name all teams after their current owners?
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TyVulpine
07/11/21 1:01:33 PM
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Yet, the overwhelming majority of Native Americans surveyed said they did not find the name offensive.
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/new-poll-finds-90-percent-native-americans-not-offended-redskins-name

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