Current Events > This morning I was woken up by a cop knocking on my bedroom door.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

You don't think it seems irregular for a front door to be open and no one inside responding from the door?

catboy posted...

Why'd you leave your front door open bruh.

I live in a safe area.

But in regards to this....no one called me in dead, and whom ever contacted my latest employer.

I'm thinking this whole situation was huge rookie mistake.
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Bro youre just an NPC in the JRPG that is the cops lives: they can just barge in and talk to you whenever they want

but seriously, close your door. Your area is only safe until someone commits a crime.

Ya, I gotta be smarter...which is what I've been doing. I honestly am not sure how that door was opened last night.

I need to focus on the positive.
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SiO4 posted...

I live in a safe area.

No.

No matter how safe youre area is. Do not leave your door unlocked, especially when youre asleep. How old are you? Seems like youre old enough to live on your own, so you should definitely be old enough to know not to do that.


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do you guys really think there are people out there walking up to random houses, trying the door, and then just walking away when they find it locked?

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Medussa posted...

do you guys really think there are people out there walking up to random houses, trying the door, and then just walking away when they find it locked?

With how weird and fucked up people are now ? Yes

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Medussa posted...

do you guys really think there are people out there walking up to random houses, trying the door, and then just walking away when they find it locked?

Do you really think there arent?

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Medussa posted...

do you guys really think there are people out there walking up to random houses, trying the door, and then just walking away when they find it locked?

I know for a fact that people do this

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Medussa posted...

do you guys really think there are people out there walking up to random houses, trying the door, and then just walking away when they find it locked?

Actually, yes.

It happened to a friend of mine. He was chilling in the living room while his parents weren't home, and heard the doorknob kinda shaking, went to check it out and there was a guy with his hood up and a knife(he said it was a knife, but I honestly don't believe it was). He usually has the lights off in his house and reads books and shit in the dark, because he's a fucking wacko.

Dude shook the door a couple times, searched the front for a key(picked up a plant, rocks, etc). My friend was watching from the side window, and it was dark(which is why I don't believe he saw a knife). He was calling the cops, then the guy left to try another house. Cops picked up the dude soon after.

Some people are desperate enough to try a locked house, some just hope that the door is unlocked so they have an easier time.

Regardless, it can help. Especially with a deadbolt.

That being said, TC, this pretty much seems like it is on you solely. The cops were just doing their job here.
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that's completely baffling to me.

i mean, i understand that there are burglars. i just can't believe that many of them being put off by a locked door.

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Any responsible person knows to keep your damn door shut and locked,I'm not buying that your cat kicked it open during the night. No cat is that strong or can open a door on their own.

More than likely the code enforcer came by because of the downed tree, saw your door open and called the cops to check it out because a door open isn't normal and add to the fact that your grass is overgrown so they probably thought that the house is maybe abandoned and that someone broke into it since the door was open.

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Medussa posted...

that's completely baffling to me.

i mean, i understand that there are burglars. i just can't believe that many of them being put off by a locked door.

Picking a lock or making noise in a dark neighborhood would be a dumb move. Imagine someone sees you on your knees in front of a door for minutes on end fiddling with a lock? Or worse, hears you smash in a window or a door?

Just shaking a locked door a few times while people are sleeping isn't bound to alert anyone. You only risk being caught if someone is watching you.
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Medussa posted...

do you guys really think there are people out there walking up to random houses, trying the door, and then just walking away when they find it locked?

yes. do you think theres nobody who does this?

the naivety of rural living, i guess.

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A lot of victim blaming going on here.

But yeah, sounds like they checked on behest of the code enforcer who kind of overstepped but most wellness checks are that way anyway. I'm assuming he went over to talk to you and got freaked out by the door open and no response. His concern came from a good place if that helps.

Also, people will definitely just walk into other people's homes at night. As a kid a guy was coming home from a bar and tried to smash his way into our back door because he was so out of it that he thought he had locked himself out of his own house. I had a coworker recently wake up to a man just passed out on her living room floor. She had left her back door open for her teenaged daughter that had gone out and forgotten her key. My sister in law lives in a double and had a very similar experience of a dude just being in the stairwell area because her upstairs neighbor left the back door unlocked. It definitely happens even if it isn't always malicious intent.

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

A lot of victim blaming going on here.

But yeah, sounds like they checked on behest of the code enforcer who kind of overstepped but most wellness checks are that way anyway. I'm assuming he went over to talk to you and got freaked out by the door open and no response. His concern came from a good place if that helps.

Well...yeah. He left his door unlocked. Of course he's to blame for this lol. That's like saying it's victim blaming if someone shoots themselves in the foot and they're mad because they had to go to the doctor. Yeah, you kinda shot yourself in the foot lol.

What's he even a victim of? Being checked if he's not dead?

I don't think this is like...half as bad a situation as it could have been.
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I think this situation went the way it probably should have. If the police thought that there was a risk that you were injured/dead (door left open, no response to shouts, unkempt garden), wouldn't you rather that they checked in on you instead of shrugging and walking away? I'd understand your concern if they broke your door down to do so, but it seems like they didn't really negatively impact you at all.

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Mr_Karate_II posted...

Any responsible person knows to keep your damn door shut and locked,I'm not buying that your cat kicked it open during the night. No cat is that strong or can open a door on their own.

More than likely the code enforcer came by because of the downed tree, saw your door open and called the cops to check it out because a door open isn't normal and add to the fact that your grass is overgrown so they probably thought that the house is maybe abandoned and that someone broke into it since the door was open.

This is probably true, but they did contact my employer so they have know I was still, most likely alive. Honestly it probably did come from actual concern, but the enforcer went into enforcement mode...but like I said the cops kinda got out of the situtation towards the end.

...For the record, I was drinking a beer with this dude like a week ago. I even said to him, "I was just talking to you the other day"....not that he knew who I was when he rolled up. ~Still he could have just said, hey buddy glad you're alright, just pleace talk to your neihbor for me.

I feel like he's the type of guy who wants to be a cop but can't for some reason.

....And yes, from the inside my cat can open my door if he wants to. If the porch door is open...then it's open. And anyway, I could have my doors open and not hear someone knocking, particularly with an AC on in a closed room two rooms away from the front door.

Failure to answer your door doesn't warrant an invasion of privacy like that.
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No cat can open a front door like that, sounds like you forgot to close it and make sure it was closed like a responsible adult

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SiO4 posted...

Failure to answer your door doesn't warrant an invasion of privacy like that.

Absolutely tbh, they can go fuck then selves - theyll look for any way to justify whatever action because they can. Mightve been as you said, some rookie trying to do their job.. still aint right though

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sounded like cops handled the situation as they are supposed to.. sorry it made you get all in your feels - lock your door next time

edit: and cut your grass

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Mr_Karate_II posted...

No cat can open a front door like that, sounds like you forgot to close it and make sure it was closed like a responsible adult

Well two things, first he can. It's about a 140 year old door and doesn't actually latch properly. If he's on the outside he can open it himself. It has an old brass doorknob.
When I lock it is with a deadbolt, which is significantly younger, and I have a chain thingy as well.
And even still, and open door doesn't mean I'm dead or some shit.
I have left the door open before as it is. It's winter up here for like 8/9 months of the year...its nice to have some airflow.
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hsvhighlife posted...

sounded like cops handled the situation as they are supposed to.. sorry it made you get all in your feels - lock your door next time

So, if my door is locked, I'm alive, if it isn't I'm dead...okay.
I do like your sig though. Fun fact, my mother died in a Volvo in the 80's.
~They are actually good cars. But I waiting on a Saab.
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SiO4 posted...

So, if my door is locked, I'm alive, if it isn't I'm dead...okay.
I do like your sig though. Fun fact, my mother died in a Volvo in the 80's.
~They are actually good cars. But I waiting on a Saab.

it sounds like you are really naive

for every 1 person that they find 'OK', they find 9 people who are dead, overdosed, fallen and cannot get up, etc. it is why they are trained this way

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hsvhighlife posted...

edit: and cut your grass

Ya, I gotta get better about that..But it's either been heatstroke levels of hot are some kind of deluge rain on my days off, and I've been busting ass at two jobs

...But holy shit that we live in a world that cares more about grass than personal privacy.
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hsvhighlife posted...

it sounds like you are really naive

for every 1 person that they find 'OK', they find 9 people who are dead, overdosed, fallen and cannot get up, etc. it is why they are trained this way

He should have addressed that, but did not.
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Lol at people acting like the cops with lethal weapons "checking on you" is no big deal. One wrong move and that guy coulda been arrested, man handled or worse not to mention they would have free reign to look through all your shit.

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As someone who has had a wellness check called on them, from what I understand the general requirements are a concern for well-being and signs of suspicious circumstance. So yeah, a door being open is actually a reason.

Mine was because I had my cellphone off for like two weeks while I was taking care of my mother who was recovering from surgery. I was technically "missing" for an entire day because I wasn't actually at my house when the cops came. Complete fucking drama fest that was

Slayer_22 posted...

Well...yeah. He left his door unlocked. Of course he's to blame for this lol. That's like saying it's victim blaming if someone shoots themselves in the foot and they're mad because they had to go to the doctor. Yeah, you kinda shot yourself in the foot lol.

What's he even a victim of? Being checked if he's not dead?

I don't think this is like...half as bad a situation as it could have been.

Wtf
He can do whatever the hell he wants with his door. Having it open isn't hurting anyone else or himself. The only danger is from someone that wants to commit a criminal act...or a wellness check gone wrong. This is definitely victim blaming.

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Having it open isn't hurting anyone else or himself.

it's not, but it looks really suspect

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nfearurspecimn posted...

it's not, but it looks really suspect

People don't leave their doors open during the summertime?

My cat freaking loves the cross breeze!!

Anyway, last I knew, it takes 48 hours before someone is considered a missing person.
I was not a missing person...they contacted one of my employers...we weren't there yet.
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front door? idk not that I've heard of. ppl just open windows.

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SiO4 posted...

Anyway, last I knew, it takes 48 hours before someone is considered a missing person.

pretty sure this is pure hollywood bullshit

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nfearurspecimn posted...

front door? idk not that I've heard of. ppl just open windows.

I have an enclosed porch...It was open, but sometime maybe in the 50's they changed that...So I kinda have two front doors. So, you have the porch door, and the actual front door.
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SiO4 posted...

People don't leave their doors open during the summertime?

My cat freaking loves the cross breeze!!

Anyway, last I knew, it takes 48 hours before someone is considered a missing person.
I was not a missing person...they contacted one of my employers...we weren't there yet.

People don't leave their doors open overnight,that's an open invitation for criminals. You sound really naive to be honest

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Also, how did they contact your employer if they didn't know who you was?

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Mr_Karate_II posted...

People don't leave their doors open overnight,that's an open invitation for criminals. You sound really naive to be honest

I know where I live...I've lived on the road longer than anyone else. I've been in almost every house on this strip of road. I know what to expect here. And anyway, they showed up at about 09:30...how do they know when it was opened?

Mr_Karate_II posted...

Also, how did they contact your employer if they didn't know who you was?

I assume my neighbor remembered me from that job. Everyone goes there, and I have many people recognize from there. It's a wine store that everyone goes to. Many people have told me, I recognize you from...said store.
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SiO4 posted...

People don't leave their doors open during the summertime?

My cat freaking loves the cross breeze!!

Anyway, last I knew, it takes 48 hours before someone is considered a missing person.
I was not a missing person...they contacted one of my employers...we weren't there yet.

Fun what you described, the police entering your home had nothing to do with a missing person report. And despite what you seem to think, it was not a violation of your 4th amendment rights.

Your front door was open and you were not responding to them as they called out. That gives them probably cause to enter your home. It's a suspicious circumstance. For all they knew, you weren't responding because you were dead, or seriously injured.

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Robot2600 posted...

You'd be totally wrong there.

The officer entered in good faith, the door was open. If they found your meth lab, they would not ignore it.

I'm not sure but without a warrant I think they could only charge him with what they could see from the door. Might differ by state but it's called plain view law or something. Now if there was a dead body in sure that rule would go right out the window.

Something like drugs I bet theyd just come back later with a warrant.

As said in not as positive on that.

For a wellness check I feel they should ha e still attempted the door bell or knocking on the outside door yelling "anyone home" etc before entering

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SiO4 posted...

I know where I live...I've lived on the road longer than anyone else. I've been in almost every house on this strip of road. I know what to expect here. And anyway, they showed up at about 09:30...how do they know when it was opened?

I assume my neighbor remembered me from that job. Everyone goes there, and I have many people recognize from there. It's a wine store that everyone goes to. Many people have told me, I recognize you from...said store.

They didn't know how long it was open or when it was opened, you didn't respond to them calling out when they was at the door which gave them probable cause to enter to see what the situation was. Your rights weren't violated in any way at all despite what you think

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Mr_Karate_II posted...

They didn't know how long it was open or when it was opened, you didn't respond to them calling out when they was at the door which gave them probable cause to enter to see what the situation was. Your rights weren't violated in any way at all despite what you think

I was in the very least heavy-handed.

So, if I'm in a room with AC going and a fan, and playing music or av video game, I can't have a door open? I don't live on a street known for crime, and there have been no reports of breakins in town....like when there is a wave of breakins.
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SiO4 posted...

I was in the very least heavy-handed.

So, if I'm in a room with AC going and a fan, and playing music or av video game, I can't have a door open? I don't live on a street known for crime, and there have been no reports of breakins in town....like when there is a wave of breakins.

People do not generally leave their doors open even in extremely safe areas. Closest you get is leaving a storm door closed with a window open during waking hours or while busy, and even that is rare.

Unlocked, maybe, but not open.

When I was 19/20 I lived in a carriage house behind my grandparents place and I was growing weed in the closet (my granny found out and didn't even care but she made it sound like she was all pissed for a while before letting me off the hook.... she was cool af) and the carport was built off my place and my poppas boat had been sitting there for a few years not moving since he passed away.

So I come home one day to a note from constable wrigglesworth (actual name) asking the occupant to call him. So I did, but even though I knew that wasn't how they handled a drug bust I was fucking terrified.

Turned out he wanted to buy my poppas early 40s wood boat the guppy.

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R_Jackal posted...

People do not generally leave their doors open even in extremely safe areas. Closest you get is leaving a storm door closed with a window open during waking hours or while busy, and even that is rare.

Unlocked, maybe, but not open.

It might be odd but not the end of the world.
And anyway, no one would know that door was open unless they were standing right there. You can't see that door from the road.

CanuckCowboy posted...

When I was 19/20 I lived in a carriage house behind my grandparents place and I was growing weed in the closet (my granny found out and didn't even care but she made it sound like she was all pissed for a while before letting me off the hook.... she was cool af) and the carport was built off my place and my poppas boat had been sitting there for a few years not moving since he passed away.

So I come home one day to a note from constable wrigglesworth (actual name) asking the occupant to call him. So I did, but even though I knew that wasn't how they handled a drug bust I was fucking terrified.

Turned out he wanted to buy my poppas early 40s wood boat the guppy.

That sounds like an awesome boat!!!
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R_Jackal posted...

People do not generally leave their doors open even in extremely safe areas. Closest you get is leaving a storm door closed with a window open during waking hours or while busy, and even that is rare.

Unlocked, maybe, but not open.

This

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Medussa posted...

pretty sure this is pure hollywood bullshit

https://www.wikihow.com/Report-a-Missing-Person-in-the-U.S

This...in general...I know this because I do a lot of hiking.
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SiO4 posted...

It might be odd but not the end of the world.
And anyway, no one would know that door was open unless they were standing right there. You can't see that door from the road.

That sounds like an awesome boat!!!

It was so cool. I was a baby when my poppa got it and it was just a mess and has a vw beetle motor somehow fitted in and was just kind of a Frankenstein of an old wood boat.

My poppa got it all fixed up and had it all redone top to bottom with a new engine and everything and it was beautiful. She was slow but she was pretty.

Poor thing has been rotting in my dads driveway for 20 years or more now.

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R_Jackal posted...

People do not generally leave their doors open even in extremely safe areas. Closest you get is leaving a storm door closed with a window open during waking hours or while busy, and even that is rare.

Unlocked, maybe, but not open.

Meh. I do.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

It was so cool. I was a baby when my poppa got it and it was just a mess and has a vw beetle motor somehow fitted in and was just kind of a Frankenstein of an old wood boat.

My poppa got it all fixed up and had it all redone top to bottom with a new engine and everything and it was beautiful. She was slow but she was pretty.

Poor thing has been rotting in my dads driveway for 20 years or more now.

It kinda sounds like a wooden cigar boat. There a lot of those on Lake George, they are beautiful!!

CanuckCowboy posted...

Meh. I do.

Right? I didn't know it was that crazy of a thing.
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