Current Events > Ethan Klein is ducking The Quartering's request for a debate.

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AlisLandale
06/27/21 12:26:45 PM
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pure_temper posted...
you convince other people

why would I be the one convincing other people? Im not fucking credentialed. other people can read too.

debates are a form of entertainment. Anyone watching a debate has already made up their mind and is only seeking to be validated.

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pure_temper
06/27/21 12:30:01 PM
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if you only ever watch a debate or a long conversation between conflicting views, to get validation for what you already believe, that is your own problem. there are plenty of people who are open minded and receptive to picking the better view once it's adequately argued and discussed and it's clear who has the stronger view.

also what credentials are you talking about

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AlisLandale
06/27/21 12:33:04 PM
#54:


pure_temper posted...
there are plenty of people who are open minded and receptive to picking the better view once it's adequately argued and discussed and it's clear who has the stronger view.

Hahahahahahahha

oh gosh

youre fucking hysterical

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Anteaterking
06/27/21 12:44:19 PM
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pure_temper posted...
and debates are a tool like that. they are just conversations. regressive leftists pretend that debating is just a formal academic setting with a moderator and 15 minutes each to talk, but that's not what is really being discussed when a regressive or a subversive says debates are pointless.

One of the primary benefits of "formal academic setting debates" is the common body of research to draw upon. If you and I had an impromptu debate on the minimum wage, it's likely that we'll come to an exchange like this (assuming we're arguing opposite sides).

Me: X study says that minimum wage increase actually creates more profit for businesses because it puts money in the hands of the workers who are more likely to circle money through those businesses.
You: Ah, but Y study says that it would actually decrease profits from those businesses.

Since there's lots of contradictory research out there, it's likely I haven't read Y study and you haven't read X study. Now we're at an impasse because we have to try to live debunk materials we have never seen though neither of us are inherently qualified to do so on the fly.


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pure_temper
06/27/21 12:47:50 PM
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You can have those too Anteaterking, I'm not saying we shouldn't have those. I'm a fan of all of the above.

And if it gets to an impasse, that's when you can say "hey there's new information, let's spend some time reading and understanding it and reconvene"

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soulunison2
06/27/21 12:51:47 PM
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Lmao the quartering cant debate shit bro lmao he doesnt wanna talk about discourse he wants to pretend to be Ben shabibo and talk over Ethan while spreading his incel Logic
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au_gold
06/27/21 1:39:47 PM
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The Quartering is such an awful debater that Ethan could probably hold his own.

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RAAAWWWRRR
06/27/21 1:43:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZvUGABCAh4&ab_channel=TheQuartering

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Lairen
06/27/21 1:44:49 PM
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They both suck so....

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creativerealms
06/27/21 1:45:36 PM
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He should take it. Both of them are bad at debate.

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creativerealms
06/27/21 1:47:08 PM
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RAAAWWWRRR posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZvUGABCAh4&ab_channel=TheQuartering
Almost like he knew Ethan would see him as not worth his time.

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TheVipaGTS
06/27/21 1:50:19 PM
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So, It appears that both people are insufferable and annoying...but yea, just because this dork went online and said "lol debate me bro!" doesn't mean he has the upperhand just because the other guy declined. Some people aren't worth the time and just looking at the video thumbnail above...this is one of those guys.

I decided to try and watch the video. Jumped ahead and heard "I DESTROYED HIM...and if you disagree just cope and seethe....by the why subscribe to my channel"...Yea. I wouldn't debate him either. He knows what he's doing.

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untrustful
06/27/21 1:55:16 PM
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Jagr_68
06/27/21 2:00:01 PM
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No wonder TC knows all about cowardice.

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Background_Guy
06/27/21 3:19:00 PM
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Shouldn't TheQuartering be pushing to debate Sam Seder? Ethan isn't even a debater, he doesn't know shit.
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MrMallard
06/27/21 3:27:57 PM
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I'm not rooting for a dude who had one of the most pathetic Twitter meltdowns in recorded history about Hitler.

That's a brand of stink you just can't wash off.

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CM_Ponch
06/27/21 3:29:56 PM
#69:


MrMallard posted...
I'm not rooting for a dude who had one of the most pathetic Twitter meltdowns in recorded history about Hitler.

That's a brand of stink you just can't wash off.
Link?

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creativerealms
06/27/21 3:47:42 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
Shouldn't TheQuartering be pushing to debate Sam Seder? Ethan isn't even a debater, he doesn't know shit.
Jeremy can't debate ether.

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MrMallard
06/27/21 3:53:27 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Link?
I tried to find a decent summary on DuckDuckGo and I was getting alt-right shithole websites all the way down. There was a ResetEra thread about it but whatever. I can tell you what happened though.

A film critic made a tweet about a black and white movie.

Someone left a troll comment saying that it was one of Hitler's favorite movies.

The critic responded with "Fuck Hitler".

The Quartering jumped in with a comment in response to that like "and there we have it, yikes"

He says a bunch of shit about how people jump to punchy but ultimately insincere and hollow condemnations of Hitler for woke points, implying that the tweet he responded to was more of the same.

People point out how ridiculous he's being, and he deflects to deaths under communism and shit like that to be like "Christ can we stop defaulting to Hitler"

The ultimate irony of the entire situation is that he's melting down over "insincere condemnations" and Hitler hate losing any and all of its weight from overuse, in response to a tweet in which the condemnation of Hitler was set up and fully within the context of that interaction that he failed to notice.

It's truly pathetic, and the stupid dipshit "debate me" tactics sounds like he's still a total fuckwit.

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TheAnthraxBunny
06/27/21 3:55:17 PM
#72:


SSJKirby posted...
going online and saying "DEBATE ME BRO" doesn't put you in a superior position
https://youtu.be/A_pIPTih5iM

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pure_temper
06/27/21 3:56:13 PM
#73:


Godnorgosh posted...
I don't think "regressive leftists" are saying debates don't change minds; I think they can do exactly that. What they don't necessarily do is lead the audience toward what is true. The most persuasive rhetoric does not necessarily underscore what is true or factual or even a valid argument, which is the fundamental problem with debates.

the bad or dishonest rhetoric needs to be called out. We dont say debate is pointless as a solution for bad debaters

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/27/21 3:57:09 PM
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TheQuartering isn't worth the fraction of a brain cell required to debate him.

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pure_temper
06/27/21 8:56:18 PM
#77:


call out the sophists, enforce high standards, and make it clear that there should be ample time so that all parties make their case to the best of their ability.

we've been doing it this way for hundreds of years and it's why we progressed from tribalism the way we did.

https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Now-Science-Humanism-Progress-ebook/dp/B073TJBYTB

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Shezarr
06/27/21 9:08:51 PM
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Nobody is obligated to debate or platform fascists.

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pure_temper
06/27/21 9:20:03 PM
#79:


What do you think the tankies will call you, Rebel?

i hear what youre saying but youre not hearing what im saying

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