Current Events > California will soon pay the health care bills for illegal immigrants.

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SomeLikeItHoth
06/27/21 5:36:39 AM
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https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-budget-boosts-health-care-for-older-immigrants-by-1-3-billion

California will soon pay the health care bills for low-income people 50 and older who are living in the country illegally, part of an expansion of Medicaid that aims to inch the nation's most populous state toward Democrats' goal of making sure everyone has health insurance.

The new coverage will eventually cost taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year, money that's part of the new state operating budget that Gov. Gavin Newsom and state legislative leaders unveiled Friday night. The budget is scheduled for a vote in the state Legislature on Monday, with Newsom likely signing it into law before the state's fiscal year begins Thursday.

California has spent a lot of money trying to make sure everyone has health insurance. The state spends millions every year helping people pay their monthly insurance premiums, the only state offering subsidies to families of four that earn up to $157,200 per year. California also taxes people who refuse to buy health insurance.

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SomeLikeItHoth
06/27/21 5:37:20 AM
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Fucking backwards ass state can't take care of its own citizens. And people wonder why Newsom is about to get recalled.

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GMAK2442
06/27/21 5:38:35 AM
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Impressive spending. I hope we will have good Members with these victims recovering.
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I4NRulez
06/27/21 5:41:04 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Fucking backwards ass state can't take care of its own citizens. And people wonder why Newsom is about to get recalled.

i mean you pay for it already. If those people are going to emergency rooms with no identification you cant bill them. Who do you think is going to cover that?

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/27/21 5:47:05 AM
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California keeps proving how terrible a state they are, it needs to just fall off into the ocean.

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Solution_45
06/27/21 6:10:12 AM
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if only trump built the wall around Kalifornia
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PoundGarden
06/27/21 6:11:38 AM
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LMFAO, California

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DJquackquack
06/27/21 6:15:38 AM
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Literally nothing has changed.

When my cousin got out of prison, he was homeless awhile. Who do you think payed for his medical bills? The State aka, taxpayers.

Idk why yall pitching a fit over something that already happens.

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Eramir
06/27/21 6:16:26 AM
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Were a nation of immigrants, legal and illegal, the people on the Mayflower werent legal
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Choco
06/27/21 6:17:14 AM
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"nooo you can't just go to the doctor you have to go in debt for the rest of your life like i do! illegal people don't deserve healthcare reeee"

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Doom_Art
06/27/21 7:44:50 AM
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God I love how California can make people so irrationally angry with something so simple and innocuous. I miss that place.

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SSJCAT
06/27/21 7:46:59 AM
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so many dumbasses and trolls \/_\/

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Lorenzo_2003
06/27/21 8:02:48 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
God I love how California can make people so irrationally angry with something so simple and innocuous.

California is currently weighed down by more than 360 Billion in debt. Billion. Thats in dollars, not Venezuelan currency.

Maybe providing this health care is the moral thing to do, but taking on this new expense is hardly simple and innocuous.


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CyricZ
06/27/21 8:04:28 AM
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I love the tacit admission of abandoning morals.

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2Pacavelli
06/27/21 8:05:46 AM
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What about legal citizens that can't afford health care?
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Doom_Art
06/27/21 8:08:08 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
California is currently weighed down by more than 360 Billion in debt. Billion. Thats in dollars, not Venezuelan currency.
And yet the state government has run on a budget surplus for the last several years.

Which is typical tbh, Democrats cleaning up Republicans awful fiscal mismanagement.

Conservatives and stupid rhetoric around debt, name a more iconic duo.

Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Maybe providing this health care is the moral thing to do, but taking on this new expense is hardly simple and innocuous.

I mean there's clearly plenty of money to pay for it without dipping into the red, so who cares?

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The Trent
06/27/21 8:10:02 AM
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hahahahaha

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Kloe_Rinz
06/27/21 8:14:30 AM
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So long as everyone is covered, and that includes homeless, poor citizens and rich citizens, this is fine
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Lorenzo_2003
06/27/21 8:42:14 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I mean there's clearly plenty of money to pay for it without dipping into the red, so who cares?

You mentioned fiscal mismanagement, yet seem flippant about expenditures that could end up being significant. Since its health care and the number of immigrants, illegal or not, is unlikely to stop, its not an expense with an end in sight. Its a commitment. With that in mind, are you guaranteeing that budget surplus given the fact that the nation is still dealing with the effects of a pandemic that isnt even over yet?

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The Trent
06/27/21 8:43:32 AM
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Its easy for doom art to not care, he lives in canada!

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ffmasterjose
06/27/21 8:45:20 AM
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I can hear the old heads crying about this already.

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Antifar
06/27/21 8:48:11 AM
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Seems good, IMO

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The Trent
06/27/21 8:48:44 AM
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Antifar posted...
Seems good, IMO

For who

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CM_Ponch
06/27/21 8:55:55 AM
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Hell yeah

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Antifar
06/27/21 8:56:52 AM
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The Trent posted...
For who
Obviously the undocumented over 50 most directly. But if someone is avoiding seeing a doctor due to the cost, that has impacts on those around them.

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cjsdowg
06/27/21 8:57:42 AM
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If an illegal immigrant goes to the ER , he or she should be deported .
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CyricZ
06/27/21 9:02:07 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
If an illegal immigrant goes to the ER , he or she should be deported .
"Death or deportation" is a hell of a slogan I'm not sure you want to be adopting.

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Iodine
06/27/21 9:51:53 AM
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Just need to expand this to all the citizens as well and things will be good.

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Doom_Art
06/27/21 9:54:50 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
are you guaranteeing
Who am I to guarantee anything like that lol

My point was that the state has run a surplus for the last several years in response to your dumb fearmongering about the debt.

And I mean, even if they don't run one this year, who cares? Like you said, we're in the middle of a pandemic.

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Cheater87
06/27/21 9:56:52 AM
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But not their own citizens?

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The Trent
06/27/21 9:59:44 AM
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Antifar posted...
Obviously the undocumented over 50 most directly. But if someone is avoiding seeing a doctor due to the cost, that has impacts on those around them.

But is it good for californians

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pure_temper
06/27/21 10:05:42 AM
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pay their bills for their medical needs and then send them back and fine their nation for the amount spent on that plus interest

otherwise the state will implode as more people leave than come in, and as tax revenue evaporates

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CommonStar
06/27/21 10:06:30 AM
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I live in the bay area. I pay my taxes. I'm good with this. We have a significant population of undocumented immigrants here that work and contribute more to the state than people recognize. The more people having access to healthcare the better.

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PC-Builder_Pony
06/27/21 10:08:33 AM
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It's about to get a lot more expensive to live there

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CommonStar
06/27/21 10:11:15 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
California is currently weighed down by more than 360 Billion in debt. Billion. Thats in dollars, not Venezuelan currency.
California has a $76B surplus.
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DJquackquack
06/27/21 10:28:37 AM
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The Trent posted...
hahahahaha
This comment/The Trent

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IvoryHecker
06/27/21 10:32:32 AM
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Doom_Art
06/27/21 10:33:20 AM
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IvoryHecker posted...
God, I love Arizona.
Living in Arizona won't fix what's wrong with you, SMAL

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Prismsblade
06/27/21 10:35:03 AM
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Spooking posted...
150,000+ homeless in Cali and that number will increase as soon as illegal aliens hear about free healthcare offered there.
That's likely the point. I mean the inequality there is only going to get worse and they need a decent supply of immigrants coming in to work their minimum wage jobs and farms so the elite in silicon valley can keep living the good life.

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Intro2Logic
06/27/21 10:36:18 AM
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California could solve its homelessness problems with the rent free space it occupies in many conservatives' heads

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WalkingLobsters
06/27/21 10:36:22 AM
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Good. Let the native and entitled Californians naturally die our so they can be replaced by much more humble immigrants

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Antifar
06/27/21 10:37:12 AM
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The Trent posted...
But is it good for californians
Yes


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The Trent
06/27/21 10:44:31 AM
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Antifar posted...
Yes

Are you sure

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Antifar
06/27/21 10:45:10 AM
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The Trent posted...
Are you sure
Yes

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gatorsPENSbucs
06/27/21 10:46:13 AM
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Cool. And this will be after theyve paid for all the legal California residents?

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The Trent
06/27/21 10:47:32 AM
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Antifar posted...
Yes

How

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Antifar
06/27/21 10:48:52 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Cool. And this will be after theyve paid for all the legal California residents?
Low income California citizens are already covered by Medicaid

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