Poll of the Day > Finally started watching The Mandalorian (no spoilers!)

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Watched the first 2 episodes. What the hell? Disney is actually capable of producing a good Star Wars thing? I'm shocked! Shocked!

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Don't get used to it after season 1 tbh.

I still have to start it...
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Truth be told, Star Wars has better content in the form of shows rather than films, overall.

Millea posted...

Don't get used to it after season 1 tbh.

Season 2 is a good follow-up. Half of it, however, does feel like a fanservice of other shows and original trilogy more than its own thing. Possibly because it was trying to be the launching pad for yet more spinoffs, at least one of which was canceled over political half-reasons between one actress and the company.

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Good show is good

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Yep, fantastic show

And they had it ready to go when DisneyPloos launched

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papercup posted...

Watched the first 2 episodes. What the hell? Disney is actually capable of producing a good Star Wars thing? I'm shocked! Shocked!

Don't get used to it. The first couple of episodes are ok, then it goes downhill fast IMO.

Millea posted...

Don't get used to it after season 1 tbh.

But you recognize thing! Please clap if you recognize thing!

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they also make more plotholes, like where the hell were some of these characters during 4-6?
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

they also make more plotholes, like where the hell were some of these characters during 4-6?

Probably doing their own thing not relevant to the plot of IV-VI. I'd hardly call that a plot hole.

11110111011 posted...

Don't get used to it. The first couple of episodes are ok, then it goes downhill fast IMO.

It really doesn't. The central plot isn't the main plot. The entire show, actually, is basically an old western in space modeled after a Japanese program in which a Samurai defended a baby while going around and doing his job, much like a number of old westerns modeled themselves after samurai shows of the respective era. So The Mandalorian does not get worse, it just shifts its focus from the main story to other jobs and world building, with limited promise of seeing those other characters or plot points tying together by the end of the season.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

where the hell were some of these characters during 4-6?

doing other shit. did you really need to ask that

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This is the best acting from a helmet Ive ever seen.

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Chef Favreau served up some good star soup.

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I have questions about the continuity. The Jedi Order existed like 20 years before this but they dont know who the Jedi or Yoda are or what The Force is? Also Luke is famous isnt he? And Vader?

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Deadpool would whip his ass.

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I like how S2E1 is just the worm episode from Spongebob

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Oh also I like how The Marshal's speeder bike is one of the engines from Anakin's old Podracer

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papercup posted...

I have questions about the continuity. The Jedi Order existed like 20 years before this but they dont know who the Jedi or Yoda are or what The Force is? Also Luke is famous isnt he? And Vader?

Jedi were still fairly rare even before the purge. Remember in many jedi missions in shows before that, people still had never seen a jedi until the show/movie. Just because Yoda is well known to us (from movies) doesn't make him well known to everyone in the universe. Even Vader (who was arguably the most known/feared jedi/sith) wasn't known most places he went (if you read the comics at least).

Also 20 years is ALONG time, especially for younger characters who were kids etc, they might hear legends etc, but even that may have faded eventually since jedi were just rumors initially to many planets.

Finally if they were not part of the rebellion etc, then Luke etc wouldn't be famous. A few of the chars would know about him though, but again, his name/appearance especially, wouldn't be common knownledge.

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Millea posted...

Don't get used to it after season 1 tbh.

Season 2 is better than season 1 though.
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papercup posted...

Watched the first 2 episodes. What the hell? Disney is actually capable of producing a good Star Wars thing? I'm shocked! Shocked!

I had the same reaction. Credit to Favreau.

It stays solid through season 2, although as mentioned it loses some steam once it shifts away from doing "it's own thing" and starts integrating more into the known storylines/characters.

papercup posted...

Oh also I like how The Marshal's speeder bike is one of the engines from Anakin's old Podracer

The smaller subtle stuff like that is what works the best.

wolfy42 posted...

Jedi were still fairly rare even before the purge. Remember in many jedi missions in shows before that, people still had never seen a jedi until the show/movie. Just because Yoda is well known to us (from movies) doesn't make him well known to everyone in the universe. Even Vader (who was arguably the most known/feared jedi/sith) wasn't known most places he went (if you read the comics at least).

I can generally agree with this, but when they start visiting primary locations from the Star Wars franchise the lack of knowledge does feel a bit stretched.

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What most people overlook is that the Star Wars universe is a dystopian hellhole and the Jedi only ever really helped the top 1% of it.

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Its Bo-Katan :0

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as I said, where the hell were they during 4/5/6
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

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as I said, where the hell were they during 4/5/6

Probably looking for the darksaber. Not every character that's an enemy of the empire was part of the rebel alliance.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

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as I said, where the hell were they during 4/5/6

somewhere else

you dont need to know where everyone is all the time that is called stalking

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The Star Wars galaxy already feels tiny enough as it is, it gets smaller every fucking year.

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Probably looking for the darksaber. Not every character that's an enemy of the empire was part of the rebel alliance.

stopping vader was a hell of a lot more important than an edgelord vibrosword.

should have wanted to stop him given their past
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How did Boba survive the sarlacc :0

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armor, duh

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he didn't
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papercup posted...

How did Boba survive the sarlacc :0

He just like climbed out turns out no one ever tried that before.

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papercup posted...

How did Boba survive the sarlacc :0

That was a bit of a shark-jumping moment for me. I hate it when dead characters are revived just because they're good characters.

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He's such a boring pointless character in the show too.

Spoilers are for all of season 2.

Unpopular opinion, I hate that they retconned him to be a mandalorian. Ironically, the fact that he was just a normal dude had become what made him stand out.

if he had said he was a mandalorian, tagged along for a couple episodes, then backstabbed Djin and been like "lulz my dad killed six hundred mandalorians and stole their armour cause they're fucking lame" I would have been a million times more into his revival.

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There's also an "SJW" controversy about his Lego set right now and it's hilarious.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

There's also an "SJW" controversy about his Lego set right now and it's hilarious.

they just stopped using the word Slave One for his ship

its pedantic but I get it, theyd rather it not even be a thing anyone can get up in arms about and who actually cares what his ship is called

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What's more funny to me is that there is a very, very long history of ships not being given the correct or proper names in toy sets, or even things like video games, also presumably for marketing reasons. It's a total non issue.

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I always thought the Slave I name was cool, and it fit his character being this scary bounty hunter. Hell slavery is very common in Star Wars in general.

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not him, he died
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

stopping vader was a hell of a lot more important than an edgelord vibrosword.

Most of the galaxy probably didn't even know Vader existed.
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Blightzkrieg posted...

He's such a boring pointless character in the show too.

Spoilers are for all of season 2.

Unpopular opinion, I hate that they retconned him to be a mandalorian. Ironically, the fact that he was just a normal dude had become what made him stand out.

if he had said he was a mandalorian, tagged along for a couple episodes, then backstabbed Djin and been like "lulz my dad killed six hundred mandalorians and stole their armour cause they're fucking lame" I would have been a million times more into his revival.

Three things there:
1) Agreed. If he had to show up I would like that backstory better.
2) I still wish he didn't show up at all. It makes Mando seem less and less special.
3) Of course, the whole show was rather obviously built to follow "a Boba clone" from the start and give his kind a backstory. (Well...not a clone in the Jango/Clone Wars sense, of course - that's been done) If wouldn't make much sense for Boba to be different if he turns out to be alive, as I think everyone assumed he must have been one.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

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as I said, where the hell were they during 4/5/6

Its a big galaxy. Not everyone has to be a part of the main plot, and not every character fought during the Galactic Civil War.

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SeahorseCpt89 posted...

Its a big galaxy. Not everyone has to be a part of the main plot, and not every character fought during the Galactic Civil War.

vader's apprentice would know about him, and should have wanted to help stop him
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...

He just like climbed out turns out no one ever tried that before.

Ehh.

Just from what we see in RotJ, it seems like most people tossed into the pit are relatively normal. Han and Luke are just wearing regular clothes. Most victims would be prisoners tossed in by various Hutt crime lords, or otherwise pretty helpless. It makes sense that people like that aren't making it out.

Boba's thrown in wearing full battle armor, fully equipped with most of his weapons, and with a jetpack. Even if its damaged, it would theoretically be more than possible for him to fix it well enough to blast out, or otherwise shoot/explode his way out. Or just cause so much damage inside that it spits/vomits him back out to protect itself. If the acid is weak enough that victims will be "slowly digested over a span of several thousand years", there's a good chance his armor renders him completely immune (and he likely has built-in life support systems that make surviving for a long period of time trivial).

If anyone was ever going to survive it, he makes way more sense than most other possible options.

And honesty, the idea that he eventually figures out a way to escape and survive has been canon in one form or another for like 25+ years now.



Blightzkrieg posted...

Unpopular opinion, I hate that they retconned him to be a mandalorian

It's worth remembering that he's the only reason they exist as a concept at all. Their entire culture and backstory was invented solely to explain where his armor came from in the first place.

Also, the idea that he's NOT a Mandalorian was only really a thing in the prequels/EU. Most of the pre-EU material explicitly considered him a Mandalorian - literally the last of the Mandalorians. It was implied most of their race died during the Clone Wars, fighting against the Jedi. The Marvel comics in the 1980s had a few stories revolving around that idea.

It wasn't until they rebooted the entire continuity of spin-off media and established the "official" EU in 1991 that they changed his backstory, and then Lucas kind of ruined him as a character in the prequels anyway.

Disney wiping the entire EU wasn't the first time continuity was completely reset for Star Wars. It's possible it won't be the last, either.
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I know all of that PO, doesn't change my point.

People were all like "Wow Boba is so cool I wonder what he is" and fanfic writers were all "oh yeah he's a mythical Jedi killer called a mandalorian".

And then we spent the last twenty years meeting mandalorians and most of them fucking suck.

Having them all hate Boba/Jango is the most interesting thing that was ever done with them.

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Boba Fett was never cool. He has a neat name, outfit, and ship. But he never actually does anything cool.

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Mead posted...

Boba Fett was never cool. He has a neat name, outfit, and ship. But he never actually does anything cool.

That's basically what made him cool. Because you could project pretty much whatever you wanted onto him.

It's part of why everything a Fett does in the prequels chips away at that, because they fill in all the blanks, and all of those blanks wind up being stupid.

Same problem with the Han Solo movie. Half of what makes Han cool is his mysterious backstory. Making a 2-hour movie that references every off-handed comment he's ever made in the lamest way possible is pretty much taking everything cool about the character and taking a red-hot shit on it.



Blightzkrieg posted...

I know all of that PO, doesn't change my point.

Yeah, but my point was more that it's harder to object to a retcon when the thing being retconned was itself a retcon, and the new retcon is mostly just restoring the original status quo to some extent.

But then again, I don't really have a horse in that fight. At no point in my life did I ever really care about Boba Fett, and I hated about 99.44% of the EU, so I'm more inclined to prefer anything that doesn't have the stink of the prequels or the EU on them. My fond childhood memories aren't being attacked by whether or not Mandalorians and their associated backstory are the version Karen Traviss came up with, when most of my actual childhood memories of Star Wars (other than the movies) involved shit like this:

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/05/Jaxxon.png
http://www.progressiveruin.com/images/swserjix.jpg
http://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Don-Wan_Kihotay

Star Wars has always been kind of stupid.

I liked Canderous, though.
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