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I could get his CR above 50% without losing set bonuses if I wanted, but I've never used him in that capacity.

Also, this ER is with Lion's Roar (higher base ATK for buffs) and not Sacrificial or Favonius

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DarkRoast posted...

I could get his CR above 50% without losing set bonuses if I wanted, but I've never used him in that capacity.

Also, this ER is with Lion's Roar (higher base ATK for buffs) and not Sacrificial or Favonius

Most people on Reddit recommend Festering desire for Bennett but I remain unconvinced.

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BTW I realize Millelith isn't a great set for Benny but frankly I don't think any set is all that necessary as long as it has HP and ER



I like me some Benti though

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DarkRoast posted...

BTW I realize Millelith isn't a great set for Benny but frankly I don't think any set is all that necessary as long as it has HP and ER

Most people use 4pc Noblesse Oblige.

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One of the new artifacts coming in Inazuma has ER buff at 2Pc. I may go with that for Bennett when it comes out. So far Benny is at level 50 and C0 but still helps me survive Spiral Abyss. Though I hate that Floor 10 has both Cryo bosses and I can bring Hu Tao in only one. Yanfei needs some better artifacts to shine

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Venti Ult followed by Xingqiu R2 on this Scorched Earth mission. What the actual fuck is happening?

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Boy you weren't joking. Today is Xingqiu Day.

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Got Kazuha to 90.

Next up: my C6 Rosaria, since my only cryo applicator dps is Eula, who doesn't really count imo

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Still not sure how I'll build Kazuha. If I do full EM he suffers in overall damage and can only do sub DPS.

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Irony posted...

Still not sure how I'll build Kazuha. If I do full EM he suffers in overall damage and can only do sub DPS.

I look at him the same way I look at Zhongli - he can either be a good physical dps, or the literal best support in the game. Kazuha is basically a better Sucrose as a Sub DPS which more or less makes him the best pure Sub DPS (unless you count Tartaglia, who is really more of a hybrid)


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I will say if anyone is not going the lazy full EM on Kazuha, the most underrated aspect of his base kit is the +200% infused plunge damage attached to his skill plunge. It makes him one of the few characters that can do significant damage outside their own element, while simultaneously increasing damage for that element with his passive, and shredding enemy resistance for that element with VV set. Ends up being roughly 1/3 of his overall damage output, or more depending on talent levels (and before adding swirl damage of course).

Which is to say the main point I'm getting at is that after getting a EM sands and crit circlet, his best goblet might actually be atk% over anemo% (since anemo boost would only be affecting around 2/3 of his damage). Also helps him to not be completely useless if fighting anemo immune enemies.

C6 anemo infusion might be a different story, but the wording on his passive implies the C6 EM scaling damage boost would also increase the non-anemo portion of his skill plunge equally, so still would be getting unexpectedly huge non-anemo damage out of him at C6.

Jesus this web event has more meat on it than some of the in game shit.

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Raikuro posted...

I will say if anyone is not going the lazy full EM on Kazuha, the most underrated aspect of his base kit is the +200% infused plunge damage attached to his skill plunge. It makes him one of the few characters that can do significant damage outside their own element, while simultaneously increasing damage for that element with his passive, and shredding enemy resistance for that element with VV set. Ends up being roughly 1/3 of his overall damage output, or more depending on talent levels (and before adding swirl damage of course).

Which is to say the main point I'm getting at is that after getting a EM sands and crit circlet, his best goblet might actually be atk% over anemo% (since anemo boost would only be affecting around 2/3 of his damage). Also helps him to not be completely useless if fighting anemo immune enemies.

C6 anemo infusion might be a different story, but the wording on his passive implies the C6 EM scaling damage boost would also increase the non-anemo portion of his skill plunge equally, so still would be getting unexpectedly huge non-anemo damage out of him at C6.

I was probably gonna go crit rate head, EM sands, and Anemo goblet. I'm using Iron Sting.

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Irony posted...

I was probably gonna go crit rate head, EM sands, and Anemo goblet. I'm using Iron Sting.

If you already have a good anemo goblet it should work fine, I think they even out about the same. With anemo goblet his burst would be a bit stronger, but infused plunge is a lot weaker compared to atk goblet. Its just frustrating seeing people kill themselves to get anemo or EM goblet with shit substats when a good atk goblet wouldn't be quite as horrible on Kazuha since he has split element damage.

Trials of Mana came out today on mobile and i went to go charge my account to buy it when I noticed this if anyone is interested.



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https://youtu.be/IndY4_CzkOw

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Got her to 60 with 5/7/7 talents and so far Rosaria seems kinda mediocre

Also lol @ the PC Games updated tier list



Qiqi higher than Zhongli
Bennett tied with Xinyan
Beidou in C tier

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DarkRoast posted...

Got her to 60 with 5/7/7 talents and so far Rosaria seems kinda mediocre

She's a good battery for Eula and is a great support for her since she boosts her teammates crit rate with her burst, so she's one of Eulas best friends along with Fischl.

Also that tier list is trash lol. I love Keqing with all my heart but her being above Xiao is big cap.

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Maybe I'll keep building her since she synergizes so well with Eula (I have Eula at C3 so she's easily my best pure DPS)

Also TIL Klee + Lv 90 Kazuha = DIS GUST ENG damage

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https://youtu.be/vsCO7C416bs

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Irony posted...

https://youtu.be/vsCO7C416bs

My primos are ready

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I'm starting to question who I should even be saving for, at this point. I was thinking about Yoimiya, but I already have pyro pretty well covered with Hu Tao and Yanfei. I really don't feel that pulling an electro melee is a great idea because I already have Keqing built. And I have Ganyu with an Amos Bow covering cryo.

Isn't there supposed to be a Geo archer coming soon? Maybe I'll pull for that one instead. f2p life! lol

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meralonne posted...

I'm starting to question who I should even be saving for, at this point. I was thinking about Yoimiya, but I already have pyro pretty well covered with Hu Tao and Yanfei. I really don't feel that pulling an electro melee is a great idea because I already have Keqing built. And I have Ganyu with an Amos Bow covering cryo.

Isn't there supposed to be a Geo archer coming soon? Maybe I'll pull for that one instead. f2p life! lol

None of the revealed characters are confirmed Geo. We can see an electro vision on Yae Mika and Raiden is also obviously Electro, and Koko is hydro. That leaves I think 3 characters without elements.

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Hmmm...

If memory serves, there was an electro archer in the 2.0 preview video that might be of interest, given that I've spent about zero time developing Lisa and Fischl. Was that Yae? Might have to shift my target if she's a five-star...

Obviously, nothing's confirmed yet so I wait. :)

They do a fine job of making me itchy every time I have a few primos in my pocket and I'm sitting on over 14k right now. Assuming we have some decent gains in Inazuma with the lot of new treasure chests to loot, that number should pick up even further. (fingers crossed, of course)

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When this event first started, Kazuha was but a student. Now, he is the master.

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I think my high score for any of these events is somewhere in the 1500 range. I drop it on "Expert", play each challenge once and move on. Silvered every event, cba to go for gold. lol

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OH BOY HE COMIN



Ehhhhh still pretty good for Noelle



Her DEF->ATK scaling is fucking nutty as hell

It's funny how it's really easy to get a "good" set for Noelle but INCREDIBLY hard to get a "great" set

So my Ningguang is at C5. How big of a DPS upgrade is her C6? I've got her relatively well geared at Lv 80 so I really want to use her.

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DarkRoast posted...

OH BOY HE COMIN



Ehhhhh still pretty good for Noelle



Her DEF->ATK scaling is fucking nutty as hell

It's funny how it's really easy to get a "good" set for Noelle but INCREDIBLY hard to get a "great" set

So my Ningguang is at C5. How big of a DPS upgrade is her C6? I've got her relatively well geared at Lv 80 so I really want to use her.

Her sustained DPS doesn't change much. Her burst DPS essentially doubles. Or imagine if her scaling went from 100% to 200% if you prefer.


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Her burst DPS is already incredible, though. I can't imagine doubling that.

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DarkRoast posted...

Her burst DPS is already incredible, though. I can't imagine doubling that.

You better imagine it because C6 lets you fire off 2x 7-jade charge attacks back to back.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

You better imagine it because C6 lets you fire off 2x 7-jade charge attacks back to back.

Dude.

That sounds lit AF.

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Well did some unfortunate whaling and ended up with like my 4th skyward atlas, C1 Kazuha and C6 Rosaria. I halfway want to go for C2 Kazuha but Ayaka is right around the corner too idk what to do lol.

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I wonder how well that new +50% normal/charged attack for -15 energy set would work with Ning. Her burst gets charged so fast you're usually waiting for the cooldown more than the energy refill. Will depend if it drains energy EVERY time she uses a skill, or if it waits until the 10 second timer runs out to drain again.

Raikuro posted...

I wonder how well that new +50% normal/charged attack for -15 energy set would work with Ning. Her burst gets charged so fast you're usually waiting for the cooldown more than the energy refill.

That sounds OP as hell

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With my Yanfei at C4 and Ningguang at C5 (and both fully built at Lv 80), this upcoming banner is really good for me.

Also, I'm still building Rosaria. Equipped her with Eula's gear and she's pretty fun to play even if her DPS is on the lower end.

I kinda think Favonius Lance is better than Dragonspine Spear, tbh

Also for kicks and giggles I equipped Bennett with Diluc's gear



It's Benny Assault Time.

For some reason, every once and a while his tap E will send enemies flying for seemingly no reason.

Is there anything Bennett can't do wtf

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I just realized that my alt accounts Amber has nearly 2k attack and is using a mediocre 4-star pyro cup because a decent 5-star hasnt dropped yet.

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https://youtu.be/y5iUwvLE1Uo

Here's my Lv 90 Kazuha all-Sub DPS Abyss Floor 12 vid if anyone's interested

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DarkRoast posted...

Is there anything Bennett can't do

yeah, fun

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Best Maid wins again

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Okay, serious talk here since trying to start a reasonable discussion on the genshin board is useless.

Every time I look at the rules for the Weapon banner, it screams "trap" to me. On the other hand, I have Ganyu, Hu Tao and Keqing fully built as DPS, with several support characters finished off as well. Outside of trying to pull for a five-star Anemo character, since they all appear to be broken, I can't see a whole lot of reason to keep pulling characters. But I have an Amos Bow for Ganyu (got lucky on the standard) and I'd really like some weapons for my other five-stars.

ugh

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meralonne posted...

Okay, serious talk here since trying to start a reasonable discussion on the genshin board is useless.

Every time I look at the rules for the Weapon banner, it screams "trap" to me. On the other hand, I have Ganyu, Hu Tao and Keqing fully built as DPS, with several support characters finished off as well. Outside of trying to pull for a five-star Anemo character, since they all appear to be broken, I can't see a whole lot of reason to keep pulling characters. But I have an Amos Bow for Ganyu (got lucky on the standard) and I'd really like some weapons for my other five-stars.

ugh

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. The Weapon Banner is a huge scam. Always remember that you can still get five star weapons from both the character banner and the standard banner too.

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Wait, I thought you could only get five-star characters from the Limited character banner?

Might be wrong, of course, since I haven't looked at it in awhile.

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You can get 5*s from the featured banner?

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Lukey_Bug posted...

You can get 5*s from the featured banner?

The character banner has only 5* characters, the weapon banner has only 5* weapons. Wanderlust has both but only the stuff in permanent rotation.

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Okay i thought so. Dark roasts comment was making me question myself lol

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Normally char variety has a much bigger positive effect on your group than having 5* weapons on some chars, as long as you can get a really good 4* weapon (for Ganyu Prototype Crescent or Blackcliff Warbow, which you can also R5 quickly depending on your luck or how much you hoard).

Weapon banners are very expensive and unfair to players, it's pretty much whale bait right now. You could roll it 650 times and then get 10x the wrong weapon you don't need, all your money and rolls wasted.
2.0 adds a pity system to prevent that, but iirc you still need to hit soft/hard pity 3 times in the worst case, which is a huge waste of money.

Venti, Sucrose, Kazuha are extremely useful coz Mihoyo just loves to spread enemies everywhere in time restricted challenges. All of them also increase your damage because their optimal artifact set shreds elemental resistances, the latter two add further damage buffs to your team on top of it.

So in my opinion, if you have the option go get one or two of the three gravity pullers first, some challenges will be borderline impossible or extremely frustrating without em.
Afterward, if you believe the weapon will be a huge improvement to you and you no longer wish to roll for new characters within the next few months, go ahead and try the weapon banner.

My opinion is the weapon banner is nothing more than whale bait, a huge waste of money and I refuse to ever roll for it. Collecting characters and having 1 or 2 characters geared for every single role and situation is much more effective and more fun.

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Me when anyone mentions Weapon Banner:

https://i.imgur.com/J7mXdpn.jpg
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Only roll weapon banner if you can use most/every weapon on it. The upcoming one looks fairly decent if you don't already have a skyward spine.

Kind of feels like they're never gonna do another one as good as the SoH/WGS banner though

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I have Sucrose on my roster right now at C4 I think. I really should bring her up to speed, because I've spent exactly zero time developing her and plenty of time looking at stupid time challenges that include being surrounded by elemental shotgun crossbow-wielding hilichurls that are a royal pain in the ass if you don't gather them up and neutralize them quickly.


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IMNOTRAGED posted...

Only roll weapon banner if you can use most/every weapon on it. The upcoming one looks fairly decent if you don't already have a skyward spine.

This, although I would amend it to say only roll the weapon banner if you want BOTH of the 5 star weapons on it. If you go in feeling that you'll be happy no matter what the pity gives you, you'll be fine. If you're hoping that RNG gives you one and not the other, then you're just asking for trouble.

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