Poll of the Day > In general do you think this site is moderated fairly?

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UT1999
06/22/21 8:02:40 PM
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do you think it is generally?


do you think so

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Metalsonic66
06/22/21 8:03:09 PM
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Do you think so

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Mead
06/22/21 8:08:52 PM
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Sometimes yes

Sometimes less yes

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Judgmenl
06/22/21 8:09:28 PM
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Absolutely.

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06/22/21 8:10:31 PM
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UT1999
06/22/21 8:11:28 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Depends on the board.
like which board? this isn't supposed to be the case, if you were to ask the mods.

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Zeus
06/22/21 8:34:45 PM
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No, it's largely left to the whims of the individual reviewing mod so there's little to no consistency. And stances change on a pretty regular basis. For a while, there was a blanket statement that people would get in trouble for making comparisons to Hitler. The problem? A lot of the mods were frequently violating that rule themselves, so they eventually got rid of it and now people pretty frequently make Hitler comparisons despite the sheer stupidity of it. And I think the reason for some of the general rules getting tweaked was because mods found them too hard to follow themselves.

Other rules are intact, but mods get a free pass while violating them and then you have protected posters who, among other things, have talked about wanting to run over posters with their car, who have suggested that it's okay to hurt cats, who on multiple occasions have used accusations of mental illness as an insult, who have suggested shooting other posters (then later went on to say that they wanted to do it themselves), and rather infamously you had a person advocating the American people overthrow their government *the same week* as the capitol riots.

So no, not really. The rules are deliberately broad and open-ended to give tremendous latitude to reviewing mods so most of whether or not you get modded comes down to which mod you got (and how they're feeling that day) and, in many cases, whether the mod bothered to read the post.

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ArvTheGreat
06/22/21 8:35:19 PM
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Not in the slightest

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ReturnOfFa
06/22/21 8:43:13 PM
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Eh, it's inconsistent, but I have learned to expect this from literally every type of message board, especially one owned by a big company. This applies to social media as well. I find it a little naive that people think they'll get 'total open freedom!!!!' from a site hosted by a private company. You also have a lot more 'do whatever' capability with Discord/other messaging apps, so there are alternatives. There are also plenty of completely unfettered horrible alternatives.

I will take risks on PotD because ultimately, I don't really care. I still 'get it' probably 75% of the time I'm moderated. If I'm warned, it's a good break and probably worth the joke. I can still tell jokes like that in the real world.

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MeteoricBurst
06/22/21 8:52:33 PM
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No and it never has been. Things have gotten worse under SBAllen though especially the last 4-5 years. One would think with the vastly declined userbase it would be better/easier to moderate. But instead we get crap like block/ignore so the mods can be extra lazy. Instead of, you know, enforcement of rules.

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helIy
06/22/21 8:58:54 PM
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Zeus posted...
No, it's largely left to the whims of the individual reviewing mod so there's little to no consistency. And stances change on a pretty regular basis. For a while, there was a blanket statement that people would get in trouble for making comparisons to Hitler. The problem? A lot of the mods were frequently violating that rule themselves, so they eventually got rid of it and now people pretty frequently make Hitler comparisons despite the sheer stupidity of it. And I think the reason for some of the general rules getting tweaked was because mods found them too hard to follow themselves.

Other rules are intact, but mods get a free pass while violating them and then you have protected posters who, among other things, have talked about wanting to run over posters with their car, who have suggested that it's okay to hurt cats, who on multiple occasions have used accusations of mental illness as an insult, who have suggested shooting other posters (then later went on to say that they wanted to do it themselves), and rather infamously you had a person advocating the American people overthrow their government *the same week* as the capitol riots.

So no, not really. The rules are deliberately broad and open-ended to give tremendous latitude to reviewing mods so most of whether or not you get modded comes down to which mod you got (and how they're feeling that day) and, in many cases, whether the mod bothered to read the post.




this dude shares your exact views on everything, and he got a notify without deletion

so is he a protected user? he's pretty right wing, just like yourself, so if the mods were leftists, then it should stand to reason he would get more than a nwd, right?

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Mead
06/22/21 9:03:39 PM
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I like how Zeus is routinely retconning potd lore to suit his existing grievances

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OhhhJa
06/22/21 9:06:23 PM
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I mean, I got modded for calling Jen a psycho for telling me to commit suicide twice and she appears to not even be warned for doing so. So yeah, it's fair
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Mead
06/22/21 9:07:33 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I mean, I got modded for calling Jen a psycho for telling me to commit suicide twice and she appears to not even be warned for doing so. So yeah, it's fair

Its fair if the mod was familiar with your posting history

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OhhhJa
06/22/21 9:07:54 PM
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Guarantee if a "right winger" like me did said what Jen said, I'd be purg'd
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OhhhJa
06/22/21 9:08:55 PM
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Mead posted...
Its fair if the mod was familiar with your posting history
Yeah because her posting history is great. I've seen her tell people to kill themselves like a dozen times. That's healthy behavior
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Jen0125
06/22/21 9:11:20 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Yeah because her posting history is great. I've seen her tell people to kill themselves like a dozen times. That's healthy behavior


No you haven't lmao why do you lie and act like a fool all the time


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Jen0125
06/22/21 9:11:44 PM
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I am so satisfied by his butthurt over this. I'm relishing in it.

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Zeus
06/22/21 9:16:09 PM
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helIy posted...
this dude shares your exact views on everything,

He does not.



helIy posted...
so is he a protected user? he's pretty right wing, just like yourself, so if the mods were leftists, then it should stand to reason he would get more than a nwd, right?

You're projecting again.

OhhhJa posted...
I mean, I got modded for calling Jen a psycho for telling me to commit suicide twice and she appears to not even be warned for doing so. So yeah, it's fair

...ffs, so Helly was bullshitting on top of everything else. But that's understandable, given his open affiliation with a certain malicious misinformer.

And jfc, I wonder if Jen could get away with literal murder if she's no-actioned on shit like that.

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Jen0125
06/22/21 9:17:06 PM
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How does one murder someone on an internet message board

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helIy
06/22/21 9:20:48 PM
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Zeus posted...
He does not.
you two are straight up interchangeable.

Zeus posted...
You're projecting again.
lol everyone on this board calls you a right wing extremist lmao, are they all projecting too

Zeus posted...
...ffs, so Helly was bullshitting on top of everything else. But that's understandable, given his open affiliation with a certain malicious misinformer.
i literally said he got a notify without deletion

what do you think that is, exactly, that you would say i was bullshitting about it lmao

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Judgmenl
06/22/21 9:21:44 PM
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This is why you guys get moderated so much.
*walks out of thread and doesn't look back*

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OhhhJa
06/22/21 9:21:46 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
No you haven't lmao why do you lie and act like a fool all the time
I've definitely seen you do it before

Jen0125 posted...
I am so satisfied by his butthurt over this. I'm relishing in it.
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keyblader1985
06/22/21 9:22:33 PM
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Based on personal experience, not really sure.

- just a few times I've been modded and thought it was fair, so I accepted it
- many times I've disputed a moderation and gotten it overturned
- couple times I've disputed but not gotten an overturn
- got an account suspended and then straight up banned for a signature that I already had for several months beforehand (didn't even get an official explanation; I just had to narrow it down to a mildly offensive sig)

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helIy
06/22/21 9:22:40 PM
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says the guy arguing that he's attacked for being white and asian people aren't attacked at all for anything

the guy above keyblader, not keyblader, he's a cool guy

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Mead
06/22/21 9:24:29 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Yeah because her posting history is great. I've seen her tell people to kill themselves like a dozen times. That's healthy behavior

I know you think you come off as edgy and non-PC, but really I think most of the board just thinks youre boring tbh

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UT1999
06/22/21 9:25:09 PM
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keyblader1985 posted...
Based on personal experience, not really sure.

- just a few times I've been modded and thought it was fair, so I accepted it
- many times I've disputed a moderation and gotten it overturned
- couple times I've disputed but not gotten an overturn
- got an account suspended and then straight up banned for a signature that I already had for several months beforehand (didn't even get an official explanation; I just had to narrow it down to a mildly offensive sig)
you've had a lot of them overturned? it might be harder to get an oveturn under the new system

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Zeus
06/22/21 9:28:52 PM
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helIy posted...
you two are straight up interchangeable.

You are straight up projecting.

helIy posted...
lol everyone on this board calls you a right wing extremist lmao, are they all projecting too

I'm amused that you're counting your alts to create a false majority for ad populum version of an ad hominem. It's like adding a hat onto a hat onto a hat... and all of those hats protect your flaming, trolling ways.

And keep in mind that while you're pushing this bullshit argument, just a few months ago you refused to believe I got suspended for posting something. Meanwhile when's the last time you got in trouble for *any* of your misdeeds?

helIy posted...
i literally said he got a notify without deletion

what do you think that is, exactly, that you would say i was bullshitting about it lmao

You literally left out the important context -- that the message was in response to somebody telling him to kill himself. That makes a lot of sense why he wouldn't have faced much punishment on that. What doesn't make sense is why your good friend and frequent collaborator wasn't suspended or banned for something like that, particularly in this day and age. And here you're arguing that the VICTIM of her attack was the protected one? Wtf is wrong with you? Like seriously. I'm not even joking. How do you get to the point where you see somebody being told to kill themselves and take issue with *victim* rather than the offender? That's all kinds of fucked up.

And then you're also bullshitting that he's somehow protected. iirc, Ohhja used to be [EDIT: wait, I think it was Natemac, not Muffinz] and he got BANNED in the past for less than what Jen did. Yet here you're propping up Jen and attacking the victim of Jen's attack.

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Mead
06/22/21 9:32:13 PM
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Always funny to see Zeus cry about alts considering he insisted he didnt have any and then oops he forgot he had fifty.

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keyblader1985
06/22/21 9:34:09 PM
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UT1999 posted...
you've had a lot of them overturned? it might be harder to get an oveturn under the new system
I don't have much experience with the new moderation system. I got one nwd about a year ago, and an elaborate April Fool's prank thread that got taken down and restored. But most of my mods and overturns are several years old.

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OhhhJa
06/22/21 9:34:28 PM
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Mead posted...
I know you think you come off as edgy and non-PC
No that's how you perceive me it sounds like. Not at all my intention. My beliefs are only edgy with leftist internet trolls. They're quite normal for regular folks
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Mead
06/22/21 9:35:15 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
No that's how you perceive me it sounds like.

I assure you that no one thinks of you that way. Youre a lot like sunwu in a lot of ways.

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helIy
06/22/21 9:35:57 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
My beliefs are only edgy with leftist internet trolls. They're quite normal for regular folks
i assure you that you are wrong

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helIy
06/22/21 9:40:14 PM
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Zeus posted...
You are straight up projecting.
literally multiple people have mixed the two of you up

Zeus posted...
I'm amused that you're counting your alts to create a false majority for ad populum version of an ad hominem. It's like adding a hat onto a hat onto a hat... and all of those hats protect your flaming, trolling ways.
definitely projection, given how adamantly you denied having any alts and then all of a sudden you had many alts with high amounts of karma. i really don't know what you think is going to happen when you try and bring up my very well known alts as some sort of "gotcha" moment, because you have proven that you have way more than me, and all of them have tons more karma than any of mine

Zeus posted...
And keep in mind that while you're pushing this bullshit argument, just a few months ago you refused to believe I got suspended for posting something. Meanwhile when's the last time you got in trouble for *any* of your misdeeds?
i still don't know what you think is bullshit about what i brought up, you are aware that a notify without deletion is a moderation right

anyways, https://i.imgur.com/y1eQoJd.png

5 days ago i was warned, lmao

Zeus posted...
That makes a lot of sense why he wouldn't have faced much punishment on that
lol that makes sense! if someone says something mean to you, you can't get in trouble for doing the same thing back to them. perfect logic, thank you for enlightening us

/s

Zeus posted...
And then you're also bullshitting that he's somehow protected. iirc, Ohhja used to be [EDIT: wait, I think it was Natemac, not Muffinz] and he got BANNED in the past for less than what Jen did. Yet here you're propping up Jen and attacking the victim of Jen's attac
idk what you're even trying to say here, but it's most likely wrong because because it makes no logical sense

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SomeUsername529
06/22/21 9:45:00 PM
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I always considered GFAQs to be the prime example of terribly run forums when I was a kid. These days I have no idea since I don't post often enough to really even notice if I were to be modded.
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Decoy77
06/22/21 10:09:01 PM
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not even close to fairly moderated, it's a leftist lovefest, will probably get modded for even saying so.

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Mead
06/22/21 10:15:26 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
not even close to fairly moderated, it's a leftist lovefest, will probably get modded for even saying so.

youre probably the most oppressed group

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Zeus
06/22/21 10:15:32 PM
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UT1999 posted... you've had a lot of them overturned? it might be harder to get an oveturn under the new system

The new appeal system is terrible. It's basically like letting cops rather than IA or an external agency determine if a cop acting appropriately. Overturns are ridiculously rare and only really happen when you can very clearly demonstrate that the mod didn't read the post. I've had one overturn in the past week, and I think it's the first overturn I've had since the system was changed.

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Zeus
06/22/21 10:15:44 PM
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helIy posted...
literally multiple people have mixed the two of you up

Your multiple alts don't count as separate people, nor did you mix us up in the first place. Stop trolling.

helIy posted...
definitely projection, given how adamantly you denied having any alts

You're being intentionally misleading, if not outright false. I named the alts I remembered having and, which at the time you asked was iirc just AL which literally *everybody* knows about, and discussed how I hadn't been using alts since BZ got banned when one of those protected users was leveraging the moderation system as a weapon. Then when going into old email addresses to set up alts because
of the aforementioned, I found a few old accounts I set up but never used.

helIy posted...
and then all of a sudden you had many alts with high amounts of karma.

ITP: "100 karma is a high amount of karma"

*looks at Helly's karma*

You have 1,257, you can't play that game. Offhand, I think the highest karma on a used alt (other than maybe AL) was Broken Zeus where almost 100% of that karma came from posts made on PotD so none of that was a secret. Oh, and how much karma did it have before it got hit by suspensions and then a ban? Maybe 600. Meanwhile some of your throwaway accounts you never seem to use have over a thousand.

helIy posted...
i really don't know what you think is going to happen when you try and bring up my very well known alts as some sort of "gotcha" moment, because you have proven that you have way more than me, and all of them have tons more karma than any of mine

jfc, spat out my drink I was laughing so hard. Dude, the last time people did a count of all your known accounts -- which almost certainly isn't even all of them -- we came up with THIRTY names when you insisted you only had 5-6. Meanwhile at most I might have had 6 at the same time, including ones I hadn't remembered. The others were made *after* the previous ones got banned. You're conflating the timeline. And many of those accounts were used solely as a backup account during a suspension (because again, BZ was gone) and didn't last 3 weeks.

And, I might add, not ONE of them got modded for anything even a fraction as bad as telling somebody to kill themselves which your good friend apparently got away with saying TWICE. jfc! And you're sitting there defending that. How warped does your worldview have to be to defend that? There is NO context under which that's appropriate. NONE. Not even 20 years ago, let alone today.

helIy posted...
and all of them have tons more karma than any of mine

What kind of a fantasyland are you living in?

helIy posted...
lol that makes sense! if someone says something mean to you, you can't get in trouble for doing the same thing back to them. perfect logic, thank you for enlightening us

He didn't do the same thing back to her. If he had, he would have been suspended or just outright banned because he's not protected like she is.

helIy posted...
idk what you're even trying to say here, but it's most likely wrong because because it makes no logical sense

Neither do any of your claims or excuses. Nothing you've said has come anywhere close to the truth or had anything resembling reason. But that's not terribly surprising given your insane tendency to cosign some of the worst shit on PotD, like how you've chosen stand by Jen's assertion.

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CaptainStrong
06/22/21 10:52:14 PM
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I had a post about emulation deleted for "promoting illegal activity" and giving them court cases that show that it's perfectly legal wasn't enough to get it overturned.

I had a post deleted for using a "crude sexual reference", the same one that the person I was responding to used and their post wasn't also deleted until after I called them out for it in the dispute message.

I had a post deleted when the storm Area 51 shit was happening for saying the security guards should do their job, something that other people said, and mine was deleted and others weren't.

TL;DR: Nope.
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sull56ivan2010
06/22/21 11:02:04 PM
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No. Very inconsistent. I'd like to see some of the newer mods be lead mods over the current ones.

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Zareth
06/22/21 11:15:28 PM
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Sure is telling that all the Trump apologists think it's moderated unfairly

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teddy241
06/22/21 11:16:30 PM
#43:


depends on the board. It has its bias in some areas but what do you expect? humans are moderators not computers. Even then if it was computers the programmers would still be held liable but im sure theres algorithm you could develop to be fairly balanced/unbiased but its not worth the time/effort.
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sull56ivan2010
06/22/21 11:27:53 PM
#44:


Zareth posted...
Sure is telling that all the Trump apologists think it's moderated unfairly
That's kind of the truth. You may not want to hear it, but you are also part of the problem.

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Mead
06/22/21 11:31:37 PM
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sull56ivan2010 posted...
That's kind of the truth. You may not want to hear it, but you are also part of the problem.

who even are you

and it isnt any of the truth, all the liberal scum on this board get moderated just as much

for way funnier posts too

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Sarcasthma
06/23/21 2:30:02 AM
#46:


OhhhJa posted...
I mean, I got modded for calling Jen a psycho for telling me to commit suicide twice and she appears to not even be warned for doing so. So yeah, it's fair
But she did get warned.

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Muscles
06/23/21 2:37:28 AM
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I've seen a fair share of bad moderations but I wouldn't say they're oppressive or anything

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helIy
06/23/21 3:16:52 AM
#48:


Zeus posted...
Your multiple alts don't count as separate people, nor did you mix us up in the first place. Stop trolling.
p r o j e c t i o n

Zeus posted...
ITP: "100 karma is a high amount of karma"

*looks at Helly's karma*

You have 1,257, you can't play that game. Offhand, I think the highest karma on a used alt (other than maybe AL) was Broken Zeus where almost 100% of that karma came from posts made on PotD so none of that was a secret. Oh, and how much karma did it have before it got hit by suspensions and then a ban? Maybe 600. Meanwhile some of your throwaway accounts you never seem to use have over a thousand.
this is literally false, you have many other high karma alts

or did you forget when a mod outed you for having many high karma accounts on your usermap, because i certainly didn't, and others probably didn't either

Zeus posted...
jfc, spat out my drink I was laughing so hard. Dude, the last time people did a count of all your known accounts -- which almost certainly isn't even all of them -- we came up with THIRTY names when you insisted you only had 5-6.
prove it, because i remember most of those accounts people said didn't even exist, and the ones that did weren't me at all. you always say you know of so many of my accounts, but you never actually post a list of them lol

or they were banned accounts, that's also a possibility tbh

Zeus posted...
He didn't do the same thing back to her. If he had, he would have been suspended or just outright banned because he's not protected like she is.

https://i.imgur.com/UH6TIev.png

yeah she's so protected lmao

Zeus posted...
Neither do any of your claims or excuses. Nothing you've said has come anywhere close to the truth or had anything resembling reason. But that's not terribly surprising given your insane tendency to cosign some of the worst shit on PotD, like how you've chosen stand by Jen's assertion.

not once did i say i stood by jen with what she said, so i don't know where you got that from. of course, you've defended known racists, neo-nazis, and transphopic/homophibic people so i'm not surprised you're trying to project that nasty shit onto me when i've never defended anyone like that

telling someone to kill themselves is never okay in my book, even if i don't like the person it was told to

man you really come up with some ridiculous leaps of logic.

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LinkPizza
06/23/21 3:28:27 AM
#49:


It can be, but its not. One problem is the mods are too different from each other

UT1999 posted...
like which board? this isn't supposed to be the case, if you were to ask the mods.

It shouldnt be the case, but it is. Some things I get modded for here are fine on other boards like the sex board. And then you have boards where the mods play favorites. And stuff. Like with the owners of the LaaG board. Who can break rules as they please, while enforcing them on others. And delete post just because
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06/23/21 5:14:47 AM
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What gets modded has a lot to do with what gets marked tbh. There's a lot of stuff that's moderation worthy that nobody bothers to mark.

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