Current Events > Tesla now wants to push the 'Steering Yoke' over 'Steering Wheel'

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https://jalopnik.com/real-world-video-of-the-tesla-yoke-steering-wheel-is-as-1847093662

Do you want to try to learn to drive a vehicle with a 'Steering Yoke' instead of a 'Steering Wheel'?

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I'm sure it's something that anyone can get used and it seems interesting. Trying new stuff is cool

Apart from being able to see the HUD better, since the top half of the wheel is gone, are there benefits of this specific yoke?
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emblem boy posted...

Apart from being able to see the HUD better, since the tip half of the wheel is gone, are there benefits of this specific yoke?

You already listed the benefit.

It makes turning alot more of a chore.

You have to do alot of Cross-Arm turning, which isn't comfortable and dangerous should you get into an accident and your arms are crossed along with the airbag inflating.

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I cant one hand 12 o clock cool pose with that

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FF_Redux posted...

I cant one hand 12 o clock cool pose with that

The 10 O'clock -> 2 O'clock position on the wheel is missing.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Do you want to try to learn to drive a vehicle with a 'Steering Yoke' instead of a 'Steering Wheel'?

no

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Those arent new, and they didnt catch on before for a reason.

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Can't gangsta lean with that thing, preorder cancelled.

Ninja'd

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this shit is not innovative at all, it was tried in the 80s, it didn't work. Jut like digital gages, I guess.

What's the upside to it?

RadiantJoyrock posted...

What's the upside to it?

wErE CoOl kIdZ lulz

matchboxsantana posted...

wErE CoOl kIdZ lulz

So Tesla standard

Joystick driving or gtfo.



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Robot2600 posted...

Joystick driving or gtfo.

Those didn't catch on for obvious reasons either.

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Hurry up and legalise self-driving cars and ban cars where humans have to drive

what a yoke

Tesla is making every single mistake imaginable and how they develop their cars and they're going to be rewarded for it.

People are going to think that yoke steering, no radar, and no lidar is the best thing ever.

It's all ass backwards. Tesla using computer vision exclusively is going to bite them hard.
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Lol that looks annoying as fuck

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Wonder if you can special order it with the old wheel

or if its easy to just swap them out yourself

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Thanks, I hate it.
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RadiantJoyrock posted...

What's the upside to it?

What's the downside?

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If the intention is to prevent people from even attempting to drive manually or only do it for lane changes, they've failed

How on Earth can you violate something so basic like hand over hand
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The high price aside, I'm glad I got my Model S when I did. I'm not sold on the Yoke steering wheel. I want to try it out in a test drive, but I think I'd much prefer the regular shape steering wheel.

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Looks impractical
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littlebro07 posted...

Wonder if you can special order it with the old wheel

or if its easy to just swap them out yourself

Knowing Tesla, almost certainly not.

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TendoDRM posted...

Knowing Tesla, almost certainly not.

Part of the entire programmable UX buttons are built into the Steering Yoke.

So it's really customized to the Tesla platform.

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Maybe?

I don't know if it would be good or not

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My car has a capacitive volume level strip on its wheel. I had to disable that shit.
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Elon the Yoker

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

Hurry up and legalise self-driving cars and ban cars where humans have to drive

this

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Guerrilla Soldier posted...

this

So you want to enter an era where hackers can take control of your car and kill you.

Smart idea. -_-

Most people don't really think through the implications when you say you want ___

Self Driving cars are one of them, and that just opens it up to hacking with what you want.

Especially since every Tesla car has a Cell Phone connection to the internet.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

So you want to enter an era where hackers can take control of your car and kill you.

Smart idea. -_-

Most people don't really think through the implications when you say you want ___

Self Driving cars are one of them, and that just opens it up to hacking with what you want.

Especially since every Tesla car has a Cell Phone connection to the internet.

I think of the bigger picture. If one persons car is hacked thats still less damage than hundreds of thousands of idiots on the roads today. Also Im lazy and want to browse my phone on the car ride to work

KamenRiderBlade posted...

So you want to enter an era where hackers can take control of your car and kill you.

Smart idea. -_-

Most people don't really think through the implications when you say you want ___

Self Driving cars are one of them, and that just opens it up to hacking with what you want.

Especially since every Tesla car has a Cell Phone connection to the internet.

I'm pretty sure the car controls only work through an IPsec tunnel back to Tesla's network, though. I can't SSH into my car even though it's on my home network, either.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

I think of the bigger picture. If one persons car is hacked thats still less damage than hundreds of thousands of idiots on the roads today. Also Im lazy and want to browse my phone on the car ride to work

Than go ride a bus, you can browse your phone the entire ride to work.

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CableZL posted...

I'm pretty sure the car controls only work through an IPsec tunnel back to Tesla's network, though. I can't SSH into my car even though it's on my home network, either.

I'm sure hackers are constantly finding vulnerabilities, then Tesla patches those vulnerabilities, and the endless cycle of hacking & patching continues.

https://www.inc.com/business-insider/researchers-tesla-hack.html

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/20/tesla-model-s-chinese-hack-remote-control-brakes

https://insideevs.com/news/343750/hackers-cause-tesla-model-s-to-steer-itself-into-oncoming-lane-video/

I'd rather make sure my vehicles don't have any "Autonomous" driving interface or software.

And don't have any Internet connection.

That makes life ALOT harder for hackers when there's no WireLess Link and no "Autonomous" driving interface.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

I'm sure hackers are constantly finding vulnerabilities, then Tesla patches those vulnerabilities, and the endless cycle continues.

https://www.inc.com/business-insider/researchers-tesla-hack.html

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/20/tesla-model-s-chinese-hack-remote-control-brakes

https://insideevs.com/news/343750/hackers-cause-tesla-model-s-to-steer-itself-into-oncoming-lane-video/

I'd rather make sure my vehicles don't have any "Autonomous" driving interface or software.

And don't have any Internet connection.

https://www.inc.com/magazine/2021006/bill-saporito/david-neeleman-jetblue-breeze-airline-serial-entrepreneur.html

• 2016 - fixed within 10 days

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/20/tesla-model-s-chinese-hack-remote-control-brakes

• Same incident as above

https://insideevs.com/news/343750/hackers-cause-tesla-model-s-to-steer-itself-into-oncoming-lane-video/

• "However, it's important to note that the company didn't "hack" into the technology. Instead, it placed "patches" on the road to confuse the system."

This isn't "hackers constantly finding vulnerabilities."

I like the fact that my car is connected. Over the air software updates to fix bugs is a lot better than having to take the car to the dealership every time or just dealing with problems because you either don't have time or don't feel like taking it in.

Also, many cars have internet connections these days.

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Looks like 1 handed steering would be severely harder

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wholeheartedly posted...

Looks like 1 handed steering would be severely harder

Yeah, my default driving position is left hand on 12, so that would pretty much not be possible.

Admittedly, I do use left hand on 9 or 6:30 quite a bit, but... I wouldn't want this yoke steering wheel, ether way.

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I want push button steering.

That way I can steer like a dpad without sensitivity. No half commitments.

CableZL posted...

Yeah, my default driving position is left hand on 12, so that would pretty much not be possible.

Admittedly, I do use left hand on 9 or 6:30 quite a bit, but... I wouldn't want this yoke steering wheel, ether way.

Yeah like, I steering with 1 hand and my fingers natural do this spider dance around the wheel during big steering

Ill probably never have a tesla so its whatever, if I wanted to blow that money on a car teslas are a bit whack

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Yeah this goes against many fundamentals of non-F1-racing steering

Elon musk as out-of-touch as ever. Its beautiful watching his downfall in real time.

I'm also not sold on the new Teslas "deciding whether you want to be in drive or reverse based on what the car sees."

I really don't like the idea of not having a stock to change between drive and reverse. I want to test drive it to see how it is, though. Maybe this is just 100% me just saying I don't like it because I'm unfamiliar with it, but that doesn't sound good at all at first glance.

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To anyone who wants to ban human controlled driving, i have 1 question:

What are winters like where you live?

Naysaspace posted...

To anyone who wants to ban human controlled driving, i have 1 question:

What are winters like where you live?

Pacific northwest We get lots of rain, it gets dark and foggy, to add onto that we use "non toxic" road paint and the road lines are invisible in these conditions, in the winter it gets dark at 4ish

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lmao

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Than go ride a bus, you can browse your phone the entire ride to work.

Public transport basically doesnt exist outside of London and Tokyo. Stop complaining whenever taxes rise to pay for this stuff.

Tesla's dumb, there's a specific reason why single seaters don't have round steering wheels and it's not something that should be copied just because they do it.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

Public transport basically doesnt exist outside of London and Tokyo.

Yeah, Berlin for example has no subways at all. See for yourself.
https://www.orangesmile.com/destinations/img/berlin-map-metro-big.gif


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Kloe_Rinz posted...

Public transport basically doesnt exist outside of London and Tokyo. Stop complaining whenever taxes rise to pay for this stuff.

If you can't find Public Transport, find a Car Pool group and pay the fee to be part of that Car Pool group.

I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll find a group who'll do Car Pooling for you into whatever major city area you care about.

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