Current Events > should i give up the wait for an rtx 3080 and just buy a rtx 3070 instead

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Kloe_Rinz
06/13/21 8:39:36 AM
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3080s are so expensive even from retailers. aint no way im getting a 3080 for under 2 grand any time soon

3070s are still like $2000, but they are actually in stock right now...

should i give in and buy a 3070? i have 1440p@165hz monitors, so the 3070 cant even power those properly today...

but my current card is a 1080 ti, yikes
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Kloe_Rinz
06/13/21 8:42:20 AM
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theres a 3070ti in stock for $2200...
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toyota
06/13/21 8:43:55 AM
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wtf happened to GPU pricing?

Wasnt that tier of graphics card like in the $300-400 range back in the day?
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Kloe_Rinz
06/13/21 8:45:37 AM
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chip shortage and covid struggles
crypto miners
leads to low stock
leads to scalpers taking whats left
leads to retailers pumping up prices because people will still buy the 5 cards they get shipped in every 3 months anyway
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awesome999
06/13/21 8:45:55 AM
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Bitcoin happened
And the retail price should be like 700 too, how gross
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Alucard188
06/13/21 8:50:35 AM
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I bought my 2060 for under $400. If I can't get a modern graphics card for that price, I don't buy. I get that Nvidia is a business, but charging the same price that a Titan used to go for for not even your top end graphics cards is bullshit. I'll use an APU before I pay $1,200 for a graphics card.

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toyota
06/13/21 8:52:12 AM
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how does crypto mining and bitcoin work anyways that it needs graphic cards?
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ModLogic
06/13/21 9:09:32 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
theres a 3070ti in stock for $2200...
lmfao id rather flush the money down the toilet. fuck these companies.

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Autocraticus
06/13/21 9:20:17 AM
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I'm trying to push all the mileage I can out of my 970 and hoping I can make it to the end of the shortage.

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Kloe_Rinz
06/13/21 9:28:15 AM
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toyota posted...
how does crypto mining and bitcoin work anyways that it needs graphic cards?
im sure it can work on CPUs, but GPUs are extremely powerful and a bit more specialised while CPUs are a bit more generalised
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Kloe_Rinz
06/13/21 9:28:54 AM
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when is the end of the shortage btw. im hyperboling the suckage of my 1080ti but its true it wont last forever especially with 1440p@165hz
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chrono625
06/13/21 9:46:28 AM
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Jfc do people really need a $2200 card right now?

Also the 3070ti is an awful card for even MSRP.

just get a 3070 super or something.

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DarkRoast
06/13/21 9:47:19 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Bitcoin happened
And the retail price should be like 700 too, how gross

Crypto isn't really the main problem (although it absolutely doesn't help)

The chip shortage is the main problem.

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Autocraticus
06/13/21 9:48:10 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
when is the end of the shortage btw. im hyperboling the suckage of my 1080ti but its true it wont last forever especially with 1440p@165hz

estimates are between the end of 2022-start of 2023
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chrono625
06/13/21 9:48:51 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Crypto isn't really the main problem (although it absolutely doesn't help)

The chip shortage is the main problem.

supply chain and actual manufacturing is still recovering so this post is pretty spot on.

crypto mining sure aint helping thats a fact. And the secondary market is going to be flooded with 3xxx cards with insane mileage on them and no one will know.

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DarkRoast
06/13/21 9:49:35 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
when is the end of the shortage btw. im hyperboling the suckage of my 1080ti but its true it wont last forever especially with 1440p@165hz

Your GPU is better than mine (2080 MQ) and honestly I haven't found any games that can't easily be played at 1440p.


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Another_Voice
06/13/21 9:50:49 AM
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Is RTX 3070 even much of an upgrade from a 1080Ti? I was thinking of getting one too, just for the ray tracing meme
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DarkRoast
06/13/21 9:51:36 AM
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chrono625 posted...
supply chain and actual manufacturing is still recovering so this post is pretty spot on.

crypto mining sure aint helping thats a fact. And the secondary market is going to be flooded with 3xxx cards with insane mileage on them and no one will know.

What's fascinating is that these price hikes don't seem to be impacting the laptop GPU market at all, and with the 6800M being on-par with the 3080 (mobile) in laptops that go for $1,600, we're starting to get into a situation where an ENTIRE LAPTOP with the power of a desktop 3070 sells for less than a 3070 by itself.


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chrono625
06/13/21 9:52:04 AM
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Another_Voice posted...
Is RTX 3070 even much of an upgrade from a 1080Ti? I was thinking of getting one too, just for the ray tracing meme

for the prices youll have to pay? No. If you can get one at MSRP its the best value to cost card they released.

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chrono625
06/13/21 9:53:56 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
What's fascinating is that these price hikes don't seem to be impacting the laptop GPU market at all, and with the 6800M being on-par with the 3080 (mobile) in laptops that go for $1,600, we're starting to get into a situation where an ENTIRE LAPTOP with the power of a desktop 3070 sells for less than a 3070 by itself.

that has to do with direct dealings of the manufacturers of said laptops getting everything at cost as opposed to the secondary market setting their own prices.

if I see a great deal on a 3070 laptop Id probably jump on that before spending 3-4k on a new desktop 3070 build. Because youre right - its crazy how laptops are just as powerful as their desktop equivalent.


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DarkRoast
06/13/21 9:54:43 AM
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chrono625 posted...
for the prices youll have to pay? No. If you can get one at MSRP its the best value to cost card they released.

Honestly, I think that's debatable.

If you could ACTUALLY get an RTX 3080 for $699, I'd say the performance uptick is worth the $200 price differential over the RTX 3070.


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Kloe_Rinz
06/13/21 9:00:45 PM
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I got a ryzen 9 5900 that I didnt put in yet, I might as well put it in now and not have a good GPU.
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ModLogic
06/13/21 11:29:35 PM
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