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specialkid8
05/31/21 9:51:25 PM
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Finally watched it and I enjoyed it more than Interstellar or Inception. I had the same problems I did with both of those movies but overall I liked it more. The only real issue I had with it is Denzel Jr. is a terrible actor. Other than that the mechanics of it all were fun if overly convoluted like all of Nolans movies. Are people just catching up to me in not liking Nolan movies all that much?

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 9:54:00 PM
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Because people got upset he wanted his movie seen in theaters and it was just an okay movie to not be able to overcome the internet circlejerk.

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COVxy
05/31/21 9:57:35 PM
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It wasn't actually well thought out. The mechanics of the whole thing felt off for the entire movie. It seems like he thought "wouldn't it be cool to film a reverse action sequence?" And then built a while movie around the hallway fight scene.

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 9:58:54 PM
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COVxy posted...
It wasn't actually well thought out

This is just blantly wrong.

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specialkid8
05/31/21 9:59:42 PM
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COVxy posted...
It wasn't actually well thought out. The mechanics of the whole thing felt off for the entire movie. It seems like he thought "wouldn't it be cool to film a reverse action sequence?" And then built a while movie around the hallway fight scene.

So... like all his movies? Inception and Interstellar are both absurdly over complicated for fairly simple mechanics. I guess that's his style. They still work in universe. I give him credit for leaving no loose ends with his mumbo jumbo.

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whitelytning
05/31/21 10:00:31 PM
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I enjoyed the movie a lot and want to watch it again.

I am also surprised by the amount of people that dont like it. Some of the criticism makes sense but some of it seems like just haters not liking anything that other people like.

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Joel95
05/31/21 10:01:27 PM
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It was better than I expected, the last quarter of the movie kinda sucked though. It started getting so insanely convoluted that I didn't even know what was going anymore and the last action scene was poorly done.
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COVxy
05/31/21 10:04:32 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
This is just blantly wrong.

Idk. Tell me what causes what in that universe and then maybe I'll admit I'm wrong.

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Xerun
05/31/21 10:06:25 PM
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The first half of the movie is just the main character going to meet someone who exposition dumps and then tells him to go see someone else. On repeat.

the visuals are really good but the plot is all over the shop.

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:06:27 PM
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COVxy posted...
Idk. Tell me what causes what in that universe and then maybe I'll admit I'm wrong.

Got it, so you have nothing.

Case in point op, these are the people that drive the narrative, just repeat what someone else told them to think without ever forming their own opinions.

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COVxy
05/31/21 10:07:33 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Got it, so you have nothing.

Case in point op, these are the people that drive the narrative, just repeat what someone else told them to think without ever forming their own opinions.

No, when a universe's own causality just doesn't follow, what you have is bad sci-fi. They literally tell the viewer not to think about it because it makes no sense.

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:13:29 PM
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Hey look 0/3. Keep letting other people tell you what to think so you don't have any ability to actually support your statements.

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UnholyMudcrab
05/31/21 10:15:11 PM
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I personally disliked it because I had to watch with subtitles to hear half the dialogue at all
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COVxy
05/31/21 10:15:21 PM
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Not sure why you're being so aggressive. I stated my opinion and I stated the reason behind that opinion when asked.

You've just otherwise jerked off into the topic. Maybe only start discussions if you're mature enough to have them.

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bsp77
05/31/21 10:15:51 PM
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It is needlessly confusing. And not just the inversion stuff, but it also is like the most confusing Bond movie ever for no reason at all. The plot should have been more straightforward to focus better on what is actually important.

I still liked it, but a lesser Nolan movie for me.

I still say his most underrated movie is The Prestige.

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whitelytning
05/31/21 10:17:12 PM
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COVxy posted...
No, when a universe's own causality just doesn't follow, what you have is bad sci-fi. They literally tell the viewer not to think about it because it makes no sense.

I had a completely different experience. To the point I dont really know what you are talking about.

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:17:32 PM
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Reasons are facts, evidence, actual statements. you haven't given reasons because what you posted is blantly false. So you've tried to follow up with vague geneic statements that don't support your claim.

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bsp77
05/31/21 10:19:25 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Reasons are facts, evidence, actual statements. you haven't given reasons because what you posted is blantly false. So you've tried to follow up with vague geneic statements that don't support your claim.
Uh, these are opinions about movies. Chill out, dude. How do you react about something truly important?

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:20:53 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Uh, these are opinions about movies. Chill out, dude. How do you react about something truly important?

Opinions are

bsp77 posted...
It is needlessly confusing. And not just the inversion stuff, but it also is like the most confusing Bond movie ever for no reason at all. The plot should have been more straightforward to focus better on what is actually important.

Blatantly false information is

COVxy posted...
It wasn't actually well thought out

Let me know when you figure out the difference

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COVxy
05/31/21 10:20:58 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Reasons are facts, evidence, actual statements. you haven't given reasons because what you posted is blantly false. So you've tried to follow up with vague geneic statements that don't support your claim.

Both reverse time agents and forward time agents seem to have agency. That literally does not follow.

Let's make it simple. In the first reverse time fight scene, the character fires bullets backwards by holding his gun up to the locations that have bullet holes, but that literally makes zero sense. Either the bullets were caused by firing in forward motion, or by some reverse agent, but it can't be both simultaneously.

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:22:12 PM
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COVxy posted...
That literally does not follow


SevenTenths posted...


This is just blantly wrong


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COVxy
05/31/21 10:23:35 PM
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SevenTenths posted...

Why don't you explain it to me then if my impression is false?


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DoomtheGrav
05/31/21 10:24:53 PM
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saw it last night, enjoyed it quite a bit

definitely convoluted but imo in a good way
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Prestoff
05/31/21 10:25:47 PM
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metallica846 posted...
https://youtu.be/s2FXfFeRtJo

Someone posted this last Tenet topic and its the perfect explanation for the movie.

LOL

He got Michael Cains character to the dot.

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specialkid8
05/31/21 10:26:13 PM
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bsp77 posted...
It is needlessly confusing. And not just the inversion stuff, but it also is like the most confusing Bond movie ever for no reason at all. The plot should have been more straightforward to focus better on what is actually important.

I still liked it, but a lesser Nolan movie for me.

I still say his most underrated movie is The Prestige.
Yeah, I feel like I zoned out when they were talking about "their" motivation. Were they destroying the world in the past? Is there a future war? Wasn't their somethign about controlling the world by making the reverse stream "normal"? I understand the Bond villain just trying to fuck everyone over but who and why didn't make any sense for the future folks.

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Iloveyou5
05/31/21 10:26:14 PM
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Hey remember when covxy mocked the people in the AP building israel bombed

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:27:04 PM
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COVxy posted...
Why don't you explain it to me then if my impression is false?

Why don't you watch the movie so you actually see what happens since it's literally in it instead of just watching the trailer and making assumptions.

Since the only other explanation to reach your conclusions requires you to not have paid any attention.

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COVxy
05/31/21 10:28:24 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Why don't you watch the movie so you actually see what happens since it's literally in it instead of just watching the trailer and making assumptions.

Since the only other explanation to reach your conclusions requires you to not have paid any attention.

Definitely watched it my dude. Maybe this shit is quantum physics. So intellectual it went over my head. You're right, i'm just a moron.

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Darmik
05/31/21 10:28:28 PM
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I enjoyed it. Definitely got an internet hate train for it though and got a lot of focus on it being the first major theatrical release during a pandemic.

I thought the first half was confusing but made a lot more sense once you see the characters experience the time travel.

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specialkid8
05/31/21 10:28:50 PM
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Can y'all kindly keep this CEmen shit out of my topic?

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Iloveyou5
05/31/21 10:29:02 PM
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COVxy posted...
Definitely watched it my dude. Maybe this shit is quantum physics. So intellectual it went over my head. You're right, i'm just a moron.
I mean you went for a phd in an obscure field

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:29:24 PM
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COVxy posted...


Definitely watched it my dude

Then you didnt pay attention. But good to see you went with more baseless accusations because you got your feelings hurt and need to lash out now.

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Squall28
05/31/21 10:31:31 PM
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The time travel stuff felt very gimmicky and doesn't do much to make the film interesting. Bullets and cars going backward don't give you much an advantage as a weapon and isn't that exciting to watch either.

I wouldn't say I disliked the film. It just wasn't one of Nolan's better ones.

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COVxy
05/31/21 10:31:53 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Then you didnt pay attention. But good to see you went with more baseless accusations because you got your feelings hurt and need to lash out now.

Lmao. Accusations against myself?

Listen dude. If you had something serious to say about my statement you would have said it by now. Instead you're just posturing, which I assume is because you really like the movie.

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SevenTenths
05/31/21 10:34:58 PM
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COVxy posted...
which I assume is because you really like the movie.

SevenTenths posted...
it was just an okay movie

Do you ever post anything accurate?

I've stated quite clearly what I disagreed with. And you've continued to dig your hole deeper with each post including more things that are blantly false.

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COVxy
05/31/21 10:40:13 PM
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I have no idea how else to explain your weirdly aggressive behavior in this topic. Maybe go have a breather. Or masturbate. Or something.

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bsp77
05/31/21 10:42:03 PM
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COVxy posted...
I have no idea how else to explain your weirdly aggressive behavior in this topic. Maybe go have a breather. Or masturbate. Or something.
This

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Xavier_On_High
05/31/21 10:58:12 PM
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It's an okay movie. Not as clever as it thinks it is. Feels like a lesser director doing Christopher Nolan.

3/5 stars.

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Jagr_68
05/31/21 11:00:42 PM
#40:


metallica846 posted...
https://youtu.be/s2FXfFeRtJo

Someone posted this last Tenet topic and its the perfect explanation for the movie.

Also literally most scenes in Inception so yeah, Nolan has been basically jerking off to his own cpncepts. Tenet just happens to be the most blatantly self-indulgent.

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codey
05/31/21 11:03:38 PM
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I enjoyed it, but it had the same problem I have with a lot of Nolan movies: too much exposition where he rams in a lot for the audience to take in at once. The concepts make sense to him because he dreamed them up, but the typical viewer is trying to wrap their head around both the basic plot and the extreme out there physics and concepts of what's going on and having characters just dump all that on you in exposition is fairly ineffective at times.

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Kafkaf
05/31/21 11:05:55 PM
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My interpretation is that future protagonist lied and just wanted to save the girl. The final action scene was great
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BakonBitz
05/31/21 11:07:07 PM
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Lmao what the fuck was with that argument.

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Prestoff
06/01/21 11:56:48 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Lmao what the fuck was with that argument.

You didn't hear? It was blatantly wrong and I won't explain why it's wrong!

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JScriv
06/02/21 12:06:38 AM
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COVxy posted...
Both reverse time agents and forward time agents seem to have agency. That literally does not follow.

Let's make it simple. In the first reverse time fight scene, the character fires bullets backwards by holding his gun up to the locations that have bullet holes, but that literally makes zero sense. Either the bullets were caused by firing in forward motion, or by some reverse agent, but it can't be both simultaneously.
Okay, so it wasnt just me, then. I thought about the inverted bullets thing and it just wasnt making sense. It turns it that it actually doesnt make sense.

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Lokison
06/02/21 12:18:34 AM
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JScriv posted...
Okay, so it wasnt just me, then. I thought about the inverted bullets thing and it just wasnt making sense. It turns it that it actually doesnt make sense.
Basically. Like the very first "reverse" shit seen, when did Pattenson put that bullet there? It would require someone planting it there.

This movie is a fun ride, but much like a rollercoaster, that's all it is. Theres not depth to the movie.

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SevenTenths
06/02/21 12:25:57 AM
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JScriv posted...
Okay, so it wasnt just me, then. I thought about the inverted bullets thing and it just wasnt making sense. It turns it that it actually doesnt make sense.

Almost every scene you see both timelines and know who put the bullet there or did what.

There is also a literal scene in the movie explaining it stating how the person is always the cause no matter which timeline you're looking at it from.

It's like saying lightsabers don't make sense because the light wouldn't end at a nice point about a swords length apart because that's not how light works.

Inverted objects are this movie's magic, you can say it's stupid or convoluted, but it sticks to it's stupid or convoluted rules.

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Darmik
06/02/21 12:27:41 AM
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It's been a while since I've watched a movie but doesn't Pattinson put the bullet there when he shoots the reversed gun? Basically the gun is working back through time and Pattinson is going forwards. The two objects intersect and it looks like a reversed shot from Pattinson's perspective and a normal shot from the gun's perspective.

I don't recall if there's an explanation of what happens to walls that are impacted by reverse shots though.

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snowman9267
06/02/21 12:30:15 AM
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I liked it but the soundmixing was incredibly awful. If he did it on purpose then that's dumb, if it was an accident then it's just being careless. Also feel like the movie was written because he wanted to film certain scenes and needed a story for them.

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