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Cemith 05/31/21 9:11:41 AM #1: |
Do you support the death penalty?
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Xavier_On_High 05/31/21 9:13:33 AM #2: |
I believe that some people deserve to die. I don't believe the state should have that power.
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The Trent 05/31/21 9:14:36 AM #3: |
Super duper support it
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PMarth2002 05/31/21 9:15:57 AM #4: |
I'm in favor of just giving the defendant the choice between them. Personally I think life in prison sounds worse than death, but not everyone shares that view.
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Chunkey Simmons 05/31/21 9:18:05 AM #5: |
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tax payer money goes to feed alive prisoners. if they weren't in death row, they would be in regular prison getting food funded by me prisons are overcrowded already. no death row means there's only more prisoners overcrowding the prisons it's a good deterrent to keep possible criminals from messing up it's a revenge tactic for families of victims. they deserve justice for the criminals action --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavier_On_High 05/31/21 9:23:28 AM #6: |
Chunkey Simmons posted...
support 1. Execution is more expensive than life imprisonment 2. Not enough prisoners could be executed to significantly help with overcrowding since the number of death sentences is microscopic 3. Studies and data consistently show that there is no deterrent effect from capital punishment The revenge thing is valid, though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 05/31/21 9:25:01 AM #7: |
Absolutely. Staunchly so.
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The Trent 05/31/21 9:26:14 AM #8: |
I'd say I support THE FUCK out of the death penalty tbqh
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Antifar 05/31/21 9:27:41 AM #9: |
No.
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R1masher 05/31/21 9:27:50 AM #10: |
I like to flip flop on it, some days yeah depending on who Im talking to, other days I like to pretend Im morally above it all
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Garioshi 05/31/21 9:28:18 AM #11: |
No, 4% of people on Death Row are innocent. Regardless of whether you think the correct punishment for a crime is death, the death penalty is completely unsupportable.
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Chunkey Simmons 05/31/21 9:28:39 AM #12: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...support I've gotta question some of this stuff, if you don't mind execution more expensive? I don't buy that. one time charge vs lifetime charges. unless the prisons buy in bulk from costco I can't imagine it costs less than killing a death row inmate one time --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g980 05/31/21 9:28:42 AM #13: |
Chunkey Simmons posted...
support How many people do you want to see executed such that it would make any sort of meaningful impact on prison overcrowding? And revenge != justice --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 05/31/21 9:29:49 AM #14: |
Chunkey Simmons posted...
execution more expensive? I don't buy that. one time charge vs lifetime chargesExecution includes an appeals process that means paying a lot of high-priced lawyers. Getting rid of that process would result in more innocent people being killed than the death penalty already does. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 05/31/21 9:30:12 AM #15: |
Chunkey Simmons posted...
execution more expensive? I don't buy that.That's it boys, pack it up! He doesn't buy it! --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 05/31/21 9:31:07 AM #16: |
I'm against all retribution based justice, death penalty included.
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Xavier_On_High 05/31/21 9:31:29 AM #17: |
Chunkey Simmons posted...
I've gotta question some of this stuff, if you don't mind I know it seems counterintuitive, but the legal costs of appeals, facilities, equipment and training the specialised staff required to execute a prisoner exceed the cost of throwing them in a cell and giving them cheap food for life. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 05/31/21 9:32:07 AM #18: |
I am, but only really long deaths though
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Compsognathus 05/31/21 9:32:39 AM #19: |
I just posted this in another thread but it is relevant here too:
The point of the penal system shoupd never be cruelty or revenge. Priority one is to help keep people safe from dangerous criminals. Priority two is to provide an environment where people in the prison system can be reformed and made more productive so that those who leave will have a better chance to succeed and not relapse to old criminal behaviors. For criminals that cannot be reformed and rehabilitated life in prison meets priority one just as well as capital punishment, at a lower cost, and in the event of wrongful conviction provides the opportunity for some restitution. The ONLY thing that capital punishment does is feed vengeance-filled bloodlust and that has no benefit to society and no place in the Justice system. If even a single wrongfully convicted individual is murdered while an equally-effective, more affordable alternative that would have avoided it is in place then the capital punishment system is morally inexcusable. But I'll compromise. I would say we can keep capital punishment so long as the person who sentenced the individual and the DA who pushed for the sentence is brought up on murder charges should that person be found to be wrongfully convicted. After all, the sentencer effectively killed an innocent person. That is murder. Shouldn't be a problem if they are committed to their sentence and the ruling, right? Just adding some personal responsibility to the mix. --- *Gheb is my other account* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chunkey Simmons 05/31/21 9:33:15 AM #20: |
g980 posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...support they're the same thing Antifar posted... Chunkey Simmons posted...execution more expensive? I don't buy that. one time charge vs lifetime chargesExecution includes an appeals process that means paying a lot of high-priced lawyers. Getting rid of that process would result in more innocent people being killed than the death penalty already does. true but who is paying for that? --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 05/31/21 9:34:11 AM #21: |
Chunkey Simmons posted...
true but who is paying for that?The government. That's what makes capital punishment more expensive. --- *Gheb is my other account* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neverwin 05/31/21 9:40:07 AM #22: |
I don't support it for three reasons.
1. Our justice system is far from trustworthy and killing innocents due to death row has been a problem in the past and currently. 2. It's overall pointless and exists only to satisfy those who think death is even a punishment. 3. It's fucking expensive. --- If you're so great then why do you corrupt those who are just as great? https://imgur.com/S0RN1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neverwin 05/31/21 9:41:57 AM #23: |
Also the person saying justice and revenge are the same thing clearly needs to look at a Webster's dictionary because he clearly doesn't understand words.
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hockeybub89 05/31/21 9:46:44 AM #24: |
Not for anyone in any circumstance
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g980 05/31/21 9:51:19 AM #25: |
For those who support the death penalty:
Taking it as a given that people have been and will continue to be wrongfully convicted, how many innocent people are you ok with the state executing in order to execute guilty people? Logistics of whats more expensive arent worth discussing until the morality is sorted. --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 05/31/21 10:09:34 AM #26: |
g980 posted...
For those who support the death penalty: I dunno, somewhere around 10 percent probably --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ECOMI 05/31/21 10:11:53 AM #27: |
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COVxy 05/31/21 10:13:28 AM #28: |
The Trent posted...
I dunno, somewhere around 10 percent probably This is a weird topic to troll about. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 05/31/21 10:13:40 AM #29: |
Im against it because the government shouldnt have the right to decide who lives and dies
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The Trent 05/31/21 10:14:44 AM #30: |
COVxy posted...
This is a weird topic to troll about. Fine, nine percent is my lowest offer --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 05/31/21 10:15:23 AM #31: |
skermac posted...
Im against it because the government shouldnt have the right to decide who lives and dies The people.provide the decision, the government just enacts it --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 05/31/21 10:18:10 AM #32: |
Those who are for it, are you PERSONALLY okay with being executed for a crime you didn't commit? As that's the risk you run. Are you okay with an innocent loved one being killed? Being framed?
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The Trent 05/31/21 10:18:55 AM #33: |
Funkydog posted...
Those who are for it, are you PERSONALLY okay with being executed for a crime you didn't commit? As that's the risk you run. Are you okay with an innocent loved one being killed? Being framed? Numbers are numbers man Yes, ill play those odds --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coca-Cola 05/31/21 10:20:06 AM #34: |
Only where there is absolute proof of guilt
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R1masher 05/31/21 10:20:27 AM #35: |
Compsognathus posted...
I just posted this in another thread but it is relevant here too: is this the mindset you have when moderating posts? --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ECOMI 05/31/21 10:21:24 AM #36: |
The Trent posted...
Yes, ill play those odds --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 05/31/21 10:25:30 AM #37: |
No
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Winrawr 05/31/21 10:26:51 AM #38: |
Society is so polarized and reactionary it is truly horrific. How can I be the only neutral response wtf
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Antifar 05/31/21 10:28:03 AM #40: |
COVxy posted...
This is a weird topic to troll about.No weirder than any of the other ones he shitposts about --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 05/31/21 10:28:34 AM #41: |
Antifar posted...
No weirder than any of the other ones he shitposts about Thank you --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 05/31/21 10:28:35 AM #42: |
Winrawr posted...
Society is so polarized and reactionary it is truly horrific. How can I be the only neutral response wtf Having a stance in the death penalty is polarized? --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ECOMI 05/31/21 10:29:54 AM #43: |
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Xavier_On_High 05/31/21 10:31:41 AM #44: |
Winrawr posted...
Society is so polarized and reactionary it is truly horrific. How can I be the only neutral response wtf I don't think a neutral response is practical for this topic, because there's no neutral outcome. It's literally life or death. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Winrawr 05/31/21 10:31:47 AM #45: |
emblem boy posted...
Having a stance in the death penalty is polarized?Do you mean a non neutral stance? By definition, yes. Not a bad thing on a individual level, but having 0 neutral responses is par for modern politics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Winrawr 05/31/21 10:32:37 AM #46: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
I don't think a neutral response is practical for this topic, because there's no neutral outcome. It's literally life or death.Reading comprehension issue detected ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flauros 05/31/21 10:34:52 AM #47: |
Yes. and im gonna throw in a spicy take too.
People who are suicidal and want to legally die should be able to be put to death professionally using a prison that supports the DP. Assisted suicide on the state record. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 05/31/21 10:35:09 AM #48: |
oh, I think he's saying that it's weird that not many people are unsure about their death penalty opinions. That he'd expect many more to just be generally unsure.
I don't know, I don't think it's that weird. I also don't see why that has to do with politics and polarization --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 05/31/21 10:35:39 AM #49: |
Only in the most severe cases.
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Scorsese2002 05/31/21 10:35:55 AM #50: |
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