Current Events > Fox News Guest Claims COVID Vaccinations Will Cause More Mass Shootings

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-guest-draws-baseless-164531917.html

America is officially screwed when you have idiots being given a platform to spread their inane claims.

It doesn't sound like that's what he was claiming. He's a moron, no doubt, but he didn't claim the topic title.

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COVxy posted...

It doesn't sound like that's what he was claiming. He's a moron, no doubt, but he didn't claim the topic title.

A Fox News guest baselessly claimed that mass shooters "will come out exactly in tandem with the number of vaccinations" in commenting on a mass shooting at a San Jose, California rail yard on Wednesday.

Retired New York City Police Department detective Pat Brosnan first connected the latest shooting to an overall "lack of enforcement" of laws and a lack of respect for law enforcement. He then claimed, without evidence, that more Americans getting vaccinated will cause more mass shootings, arguing that mass shooters were previously too scared of COVID-19 to commit violence.

"This is a time that I wish I was wrong with my prediction, which I mention to anybody who would listen, that once COVID starts to lift, these cowardly shooters will come out exactly in tandem with the number of vaccinations. You can be sure they probably got vaccinated, they were just scared to come out," Brosnan said. "And they're coming back. And you see the numbers don't lie, shootings are up dramatically, skyrocketing actually on active shootings in the United States."

COVxy posted...

It doesn't sound like that's what he was claiming. He's a moron, no doubt, but he didn't claim the topic title.

It is exactly what he was claiming.
He also whined about crimes no longer being illegal.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-guest-claims-mass-shootings-will-rise-with-vaccinations-2021-5

Retired New York City Police Department detective Pat Brosnan first connected the latest shooting to an overall "lack of enforcement" of laws and a lack of respect for law enforcement. He then claimed, without evidence, that more Americans getting vaccinated will cause more mass shootings, arguing that mass shooters were previously too scared of COVID-19 to commit violence.

"This is a time that I wish I was wrong with my prediction, which I mention to anybody who would listen, that once COVID starts to lift, these cowardly shooters will come out exactly in tandem with the number of vaccinations. You can be sure they probably got vaccinated, they were just scared to come out," Brosnan said. "And they're coming back. And you see the numbers don't lie, shootings are up dramatically, skyrocketing actually on active shootings in the United States."

This is an attempt at correlation, not causation, but the Fox News talking head is still an idiot in thinking that COVID was what was preventing mass shooters from killing people.

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Not exactly what he said, but I don't understand the point of why he said it either.

Should people have stayed unvaccinated and scared of COVID so shootings stayed down?

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Someone once shared a link that lets you petition your cable or internet providers directly with their hosting of Fox News.

Wish I saved that link as it continues to be relevant

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creativerealms posted...

Well if more people are vaccinated that means people will gather in larger crowds and that means more mass shootings.

He said the shooter was definitely vaccinated

Will_VIIII posted...

Someone once shared a link that lets you petition your cable or internet providers directly with their hosting of Fox News.

Wish I saved that link as it continues to be relevant

Which ones?

https://www.change.org/p/time-warner-cable-cable-providers-unbundle-fox-news-and-oan-from-basic-cable
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/have-fox-news-removed
https://unfoxmycablebox.com/

I think you both know that the topic title implies that the vaccine is the cause. But really he's just saying that the people who want to do this shit will just be more likely to come out and do it after vaccination. Not that the vaccine made them do it.

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COVxy posted...

I think you both know that the topic title implies that the vaccine is the cause. But really he's just saying that the people who want to do this shit will just be more likely to come out and do it after vaccination. Not that the vaccine made them do it.

You can be sure they probably got vaccinated, they were just scared to come out,

So shooters are not anti-vaxx?

More people going out means more shootings, so yeah, but that just means things will go back to pre-Covid levels.


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Conservative logic: "Loose gun laws don't correlate to higher frequency of mass shootings, but vaccines definitely do!"

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COVxy posted...

I think you both know that the topic title implies that the vaccine is the cause.

That's not what I thought it meant.

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COVxy posted...

I think you both know that the topic title implies that the vaccine is the cause.

No, I didn't think it implied that.

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So while a pandemic is going on, potential victims and potential shooters are more likely to stay home. With vaccinations making a return to normalcy reasonable, we return to our typical shootings. Obviously everyone should be forbidden to ever leave their house. <_<

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Bandit_Keith posted...

That's not what I thought it meant.

Mr_Rian posted...

No, I didn't think it implied that.

Well, if you interpreted it the way it seems he meant, it's pretty much the least controversial and concerning of anything he said.

It's almost certainly true of all crime rate.

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uwnim posted...

So while a pandemic is going on, potential victims and potential shooters are more likely to stay home. With vaccinations making a return to normalcy reasonable, we return to our typical shootings. Obviously everyone should be forbidden to ever leave their house. <_<

Like apparently shooters are scared of getting covid?

WingsOfGood posted...

Like apparently shooters are scared of getting covid?

More like greatly reducing the interactions people have with each other also reduces bad interaction like mass shootings.

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Humble_Novice posted...

Which ones?

https://www.change.org/p/time-warner-cable-cable-providers-unbundle-fox-news-and-oan-from-basic-cable
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/have-fox-news-removed
https://unfoxmycablebox.com/

It was the last one but I'll save all 3

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Couldn't he have just said "expect crime rates to return to normal"?

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well in a round-about way, where quarantines are lifted and more people are out and about, sure. we're just going back to the steady level of mass shootings in this country that republican politicians love.

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Criminalt posted...

Couldn't he have just said "expect crime rates to return to normal"?

No. Because that doesn't work to manipulate people. He wants to wait til kt gets there so he can say "See, Im right". So anyone without the ability to properly assess what's going on eat it up.

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