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solosnake
05/25/21 8:23:50 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/politics/wuhan-lab-covid-origin-theory/index.html

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scorpion41
05/25/21 8:29:00 PM
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Love how theyre circling back around and are now championing all the conspiracies and policies they shit on Trump for. And of course people are eating it up

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Letron_James
05/25/21 8:34:01 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was a lab leak and I don't think that means it was intentional however. The genealogy of how they were describing the virus always seemed strange. Why would a bat bit a pangolin or even vice versa? I might be ignorant but it seems highly unlikely an animal that flies at night would ever come into contact with a land creature, even moreso when it involves whatever specific two creatures to even carry the disease. And then we are supposed to accept that the meat market food wasn't cooked to a temp to kill the disease once it was consumed? Again I am not fully aware of if the original strain could have even been cooked out of the infected meat or it spread to other pangolins and then that caused it, it just seems strange overall.

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BLAKUboy
05/25/21 8:37:11 PM
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I mean it's worth investigating if only to debunk it, and it's certainly "safer" now that the conspiracy theorists have all moved onto raging over the vaccine.

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COVxy
05/25/21 8:40:54 PM
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I think the media just loves reporting on it, tbh.

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VTBM
05/25/21 9:05:29 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
because Trump is out of office


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voldothegr8
05/25/21 9:07:20 PM
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Not suddenly, it has always been one of two leading theories
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DeadlyNinjaBees
05/25/21 9:08:03 PM
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I see "CNN" in the link and just go "Nope" now days.

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Phantom36
05/25/21 9:14:41 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Not suddenly, it has always been one of two leading theories

Yeah but suddenly mainstream media outlets are actually talking about it instead of brushing it under the rug as just some whacked out conspiracy.

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Smashingpmkns
05/25/21 9:16:10 PM
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Still seems like a pretty dumb theory
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Shamrock99
05/26/21 5:21:28 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
Yeah but suddenly mainstream media outlets are actually talking about it instead of brushing it under the rug as just some whacked out conspiracy.

...just like the UFO subject.

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Bandit_Keith
05/26/21 5:42:33 PM
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Letron_James posted...
I'm pretty sure it was a lab leak and I don't think that means it was intentional however. The genealogy of how they were describing the virus always seemed strange. Why would a bat bit a pangolin or even vice versa? I might be ignorant but it seems highly unlikely an animal that flies at night would ever come into contact with a land creature, even moreso when it involves whatever specific two creatures to even carry the disease. And then we are supposed to accept that the meat market food wasn't cooked to a temp to kill the disease once it was consumed? Again I am not fully aware of if the original strain could have even been cooked out of the infected meat or it spread to other pangolins and then that caused it, it just seems strange overall.
The Wet Markets would potentially have both of those animals there together alive. So the potential to infect one another and/or human butchers is not out of the question.

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Guide
05/26/21 5:45:01 PM
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Even if it wasn't, it might be useful to make the world think it was. The CCP is kind of a huge threat.

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sutree
05/26/21 5:53:11 PM
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Trump tried to warn us and we didn't listen

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solosnake
05/26/21 10:32:46 PM
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Covid: Biden orders intelligence report on virus origin

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57260009


US President Joe Biden has ordered intelligence agencies to investigate the emergence of Covid-19, amid growing controversy about the virus's origins.

In a statement, Mr Biden asked US intelligence groups to "redouble their efforts" and report to him within 90 days.

Covid-19 was first detected in the Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019.
More than 168 million cases have since been confirmed worldwide and at least 3.5 million deaths reported.

Authorities linked early Covid cases to a seafood market in Wuhan, and scientists believed the virus first passed to humans from animals.

But recent US media reports suggest growing evidence the virus could instead have emerged from a laboratory in China.

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scorpion41
05/27/21 9:34:00 AM
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So Trump so far:

-blamed Chinese government for developing the virus and the leakage, criticized for it
-tried to ban travel to and from China, criticized for it
-invested heavily in developing a viable vaccine in record time, criticized for it

And it turns out he was right about everything.

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Flauros
05/27/21 9:48:03 AM
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If it turns out Trump was right, will people just say "Well yeah he was right, but it came from a place of ignorance and hate so fuck Plrumpf!"

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UnfairRepresent
05/27/21 10:00:36 AM
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scorpion41 posted...
-tried to ban travel to and from China, criticized for it

That's fair


-blamed Chinese government for developing the virus and the leakage, criticized for it

-invested heavily in developing a viable vaccine in record time, criticized for it


This isn't.

Trump was critiziced for blaming China for the Deathrates in the US which were entirely caused by his awful handling of covid and constant lying, downplaying and misinformation that resulted (and still results) in millions of people getting sick and tens of millions downplaying the entire pandemic.

The actual rollout of the vaccine was one of the few things Trump was praised for. It was just too little too late in terms to how badly he handled the crisis on every concievable level for months and months on end.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
05/27/21 10:06:43 AM
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BLAKUboy posted...
I mean it's worth investigating if only to debunk it, and it's certainly "safer" now that the conspiracy theorists have all moved onto raging over the vaccine.

I'm not so sure. Of all the bullshit they have said over the past few years FINALLY one of the things MIGHT be true. They will do nothing but bring this up and try to use it as proof that they are right about everything.

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CableZL
05/27/21 10:11:54 AM
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The sudden interest is coming from the new information that came to light. Some people who worked at the Wuhan virology lab were hospitalized pretty early on, so people are wondering what's up with that.

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WingsOfGood
05/27/21 10:12:11 AM
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COVxy posted...
I think the media just loves reporting on it, tbh.

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Unsugarized_Foo
05/27/21 10:13:11 AM
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Because they're allowed to talk about it now without being stripped of their life's ventures

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WingsOfGood
05/27/21 10:20:46 AM
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CableZL posted...
The sudden interest is coming from the new information that came to light. Some people who worked at the Wuhan virology lab were hospitalized pretty early on, so people are wondering what's up with that.

Thought people talked about this last year though.
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Clutch
05/27/21 10:55:34 AM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
The Wet Markets would potentially have both of those animals there together alive. So the potential to infect one another and/or human butchers is not out of the question.

Right, but they werent able to find any animals in the wet markets that were infected. So that theory isnt looking great.

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NinjaWarrior455
05/27/21 10:59:06 AM
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Covid possibly coming from a lab does not mean the lab was developing some sort of biological weapon that a lot of the conspiracy nuts were pushing back in January of last year. Not surprised to see the right wing shitposters automatically jump to "see!!!! Trump was right all along!!!!!1!1!11"

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Samurontai
05/27/21 11:01:20 AM
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Im pretty sure Trump was making it out to be some intentional act, and claimed that China was doing literally biological warfare

Ive always had the thought that it mightve leaked by accident via a careless worker or some such tbh

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
05/27/21 11:02:00 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Covid possibly coming from a lab does not mean the lab was developing some sort of biological weapon that a lot of the conspiracy nuts were pushing back in January of last year. Not surprised to see the right wing shitposters automatically jump to "see!!!! Trump was right all along!!!!!1!1!11"

You're right it doesn't. If anything it should be more along the lines of "look how careless they were."

Do people not think we study viruses here in the US? If the US scientists there were more careless this could have been from the US.

Edit: These statements are assuming the virus did end up escaping from a lab. It hasn't been proven.

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WingsOfGood
05/27/21 11:02:50 AM
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Stop talking about Trump.
Fuck Trump.

If the scientists think this has merit, Trump was not right nor do certain users need to act like anyone who wants to see where this goes must be a trumper.
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COVxy
05/27/21 11:03:03 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
You're right it doesn't. If anything it should be more along the lines of "look how careless they were."

Do people not think we study viruses here in the US? If the US scientists there were more careless this could have been from the US.

There have been many viral leaks from US labs.

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Samurontai
05/27/21 11:04:00 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
You're right it doesn't. If anything it should be more along the lines of "look how careless they were."

Do people not think we study viruses here in the US? If the US scientists there were more careless this could have been from the US.

Ironically, the US has a horrible history of intentionally infesting their own population with contagions


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Ilishe
05/27/21 11:09:17 AM
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How does a bat even bite into a pangolin tho

That thing is tough

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littlebro07
05/27/21 11:10:47 AM
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scorpion41 posted...
tried to ban travel to and from China, criticized for it

because it wasnt even a real ban

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Bleuets
05/27/21 11:11:00 AM
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*Trump discusses this possibility*

Liberals: well that's just crazy, stop it with your conspiracy theories!

*CNN discusses this possibility*

Liberals: Well if CNN says it it must be true!
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Samurontai
05/27/21 11:16:01 AM
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Bleuets posted...
*Trump discusses this possibility*

Liberals: well that's just crazy, stop it with your conspiracy theories!

*CNN discusses this possibility*

Liberals: Well if CNN says it it must be true!

Trump called it biological warfare. Dont be disingenuous.


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Shamrock99
05/27/21 1:31:26 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Trump called it biological warfare. Dont be disingenuous.

I'm no Trumper, but it could be biowarfare. I'm willing to bet that many countries, including the U.S., still research into that stuff. Look up "gain of function research." And if you really want to start down the rabbit hole, look up the Bill Gates funding for gain of function research on viruses.

If the lab had the virus and were working with it, I wouldn't be surprised if it were for biowarfare at all. It's totally a possibility. Either way, the main point is that it could have very well escaped from a lab via accident (or maybe on purpose?). Hopefully the investigation will result in some answers, but you know China isn't going to play ball.

RELATED:

Politico: Facebook lifts ban on posts claiming Covid-19 was man-made as Wuhan theories surge

Link:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/05/26/facebook-ban-covid-man-made-491053

So what was once considered conspiracy theory and disinformation is now okay to discuss since Biden is finally onboard... after he initially clamped down on the theory during the Trump administration.

YOU DON'T SAY.

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Kolibri X
05/27/21 1:39:57 PM
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The NPC meme is real.

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Cuticrusader09
05/28/21 6:47:47 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
because Trump is out of office

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unclekoolaid73
05/28/21 6:50:55 PM
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How did the lab theory even become a conspiracy theory anyway?

Also who determines what is and isnt a conspiracy theory?


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nfearurspecimn
05/28/21 6:51:47 PM
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I always thought that theory had merit, but people would call me a Trumper for believing in it.

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Trumble
05/28/21 7:03:42 PM
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I don't recall ever seeing a single scientific source outright saying it was ruled out - only, at worst, that it was the less likely explanation. That was all media (regular and social alike) and politicians.

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Shamrock99
05/28/21 9:52:50 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I always thought that theory had merit, but was afraid people would call me a Trumper for believing in it.

It's a sick world, isn't it?

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ledbowman
05/28/21 9:56:48 PM
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trump derangement syndrome in effect

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nfearurspecimn
05/28/21 9:57:31 PM
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Shamrock99 posted...
It's a sick world, isn't it?
sometimes, yeah

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hockeybub89
05/28/21 9:59:16 PM
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I'm sure Trump and all these conspiracies nuts are still wrong even if it's found that this came out of a lab. It's not a bioweapon developed by the corporate liberal elite to control everyone through vaccines.

Are 9/11 truthers correct because their rambling nonsense contains 3% facts?

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What_
05/28/21 10:01:41 PM
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The trump retcon begins already for republicans
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ncsonic
05/28/21 10:07:34 PM
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Theres also a theory it came from a US lab

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nfearurspecimn
05/28/21 10:08:06 PM
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ncsonic posted...
Theres also a theory it came from a US lab
NO

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Trumble
05/28/21 10:08:24 PM
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ncsonic posted...
Theres also a theory it came from a US lab
Yes, but no one outside of the CCP takes this theory seriously.

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