Current Events > Twitch goddess Amouranth gets ads back but massive drop in income

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:16:35 AM
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https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/amouranth-reveals-massive-drop-in-twitch-income-despite-getting-ads-back-1580066/?amp

The hot tub meta has dominated Twitch throughout 2021, and Amouranth has arguably been its poster girl. With the platform only allowing streamers to wear certain attire in contextual exceptions, the hot tub has become a prime location for certain streamers.
However, Amouranths status as the Queen of Hot Tubs was up in the air after she was surprisingly demonetized by Twitch, prompting speculation that she would end up ditching hot tub streams for good.

Amouranth was set to lose just shy of half a million dollars in revenue as a result of this demonetization and caused worries that Twitchs ability to demonetize channels without warning could set a dangerous precedent.

On her May 22 stream, Amouranth explained that Twitch had reverted its decision to demonetize her channel, but with a catch. She would now be making significantly less money from ads than she did previously.
For comparison, before the demonetization, I was getting $1000 a day in advertisements, she explained. Yesterday, I streamed for like 15 hours, had a 15,000 viewer average, and had $130 in ad revenue.

This means that if she were to stream every day for a year, she would now receive $47,450 in ad revenue an annual loss of up to $440,000.
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chrono625
05/24/21 10:17:23 AM
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I have a hard time feeling bad for her in particular.

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:17:49 AM
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chrono625 posted...
I have a hard time feeling bad for her in particular.

Wow
WOW
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The Trent
05/24/21 10:18:09 AM
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Blue_Dream87
05/24/21 10:18:14 AM
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Im sure her simps will pony up the rest

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R1masher
05/24/21 10:18:18 AM
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Poor lady is poor

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bluezero
05/24/21 10:19:32 AM
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Well if there's a bright side, she's been doing this awhile and is probably rich? If she didn't squander it all.

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ThePieReborn
05/24/21 10:20:14 AM
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Oh no.

Anyway

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Tenlaar
05/24/21 10:20:17 AM
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It's shady as hell that Twitch seems to do this action with no warning at all thing as a regular way of doing business but they really do need to do something. They are essentially running a soft core porn site for children at this point.
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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:20:38 AM
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ThePieReborn posted...
Oh no.

Anyway

WHATT!!???
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Slayer_22
05/24/21 10:21:24 AM
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bluezero posted...
Well if there's a bright side, she's been doing this awhile and is probably rich? If she didn't squander it all.

I have a feeling she did, but maybe she's smarter than that?
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ThePieReborn
05/24/21 10:21:54 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
WHATT!!???
Did I stutter?

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Makeveli_lives
05/24/21 10:22:00 AM
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chrono625 posted...
I have a hard time feeling bad for her in particular.
To be fair, that's like less then minimum wage for 15 hours. But a grand a day in revenue plus donations is bullshit considering what she does for a living

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:22:24 AM
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Her schtick was donating alot of her moneu to help animals.
She made a company or something to this end.
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Sputnik1337
05/24/21 10:24:44 AM
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bluezero posted...
Well if there's a bright side, she's been doing this awhile and is probably rich? If she didn't squander it all.
Shell be fine. Her patreon alone pulls like $30k+ a month assuming everyone who subscribes to it is at the minimum tier. Nevermind all her donations, chat tips and subscriptions on twitch plus whatever she pulls in on her fan site.

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El Mexicano Texano
05/24/21 10:25:06 AM
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As usual CE sides with the corporations when it's something they don't agree/like.

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Jagr_68
05/24/21 10:25:43 AM
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"They're gonna demonetize her, man!"



"oH thEY'rE gOnNa dee-MONetIzE dAT pooOoOor wOMan!"

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Ushiromiya
05/24/21 10:26:50 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
It's shady as hell that Twitch seems to do this action with no warning
Everything they do is shady and with as little transparency as possible. Seems like this one person was made an example of for a type of stream that they gave an entire category to days later.

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DipDipDiver
05/24/21 10:27:03 AM
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She took advantage of the bubble until it popped. It was smart, but it obviously wasnt going to last forever.
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Funkydog
05/24/21 10:27:05 AM
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While I don't really bad for her personally, I do dislike that twitch (and youtube etc) just all change their rules seemingly at random, without proper warning or essentially support minor rule breaking while it brings them money and then suddenly change their mind when investors say no without properly warning their content creators.

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:27:07 AM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
As usual CE sides with the corporations when it's something they don't agree/like.

Exactly.
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MachineJaipur
05/24/21 10:27:43 AM
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This woman makes more in a day than most CEman make in a month and probably more than some do in a year.

She deserves nothing even remotely resembling pity
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Slayer_22
05/24/21 10:28:05 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
"They're gonna demonetize her, man!"



"oH thEY'rE gOnNa dee-MONetIzE dAT pooOoOor wOMan!"

I read that in their voices.
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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:29:06 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
This woman makes more in a day than most CEman make in a month and probably more than some do in a year.

She deserves nothing even remotely resembling pity

$130 a day for 15 hours of work?
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BuckVanHammer
05/24/21 10:29:17 AM
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I dont know the ends or outs of this shit, but is this more of an advertiser push or a twitch thing?

I kinda get if advertisers wouldn't want any part of that shit...

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Tenlaar
05/24/21 10:29:18 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
This woman makes more in a day than most CEman make in a month and probably more than some do in a year.

She deserves nothing even remotely resembling pity
Discussing whether actions are right or wrong doesn't have to involve "pity." Weird that you felt like your post needed to involve misogyny, though!
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voldothegr8
05/24/21 10:30:06 AM
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ThePieReborn posted...
Oh no.

Anyway

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xXfireglzXx
05/24/21 10:30:24 AM
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If you're asking if she'll float or sink as a result of this change, I have two fairly prominent reasons that she'll float.

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Gobstoppers12
05/24/21 10:30:35 AM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
As usual CE sides with the corporations when it's something they don't agree/like.
I mean, these hot tub people were clearly exploiting a technicality in the rules. They meet the bare minimum requirements of a "hot tub," which is most often an inflatable kiddie pool in their bedroom, to have an excuse to wear extremely skimpy clothing. It's just porn.

Advertisers have a right to choose the sort of content their brand is attached to, and if they don't want to be associated with porn, then it's up to Twitch to separate the categories appropriately. Twitch and the advertisers did nothing wrong in this case.

"Hot tub" streamers took a good faith rule that wouldn't punish streamers for going to the beach and turned it into an excuse to wear what's essentially lingerie on a website for kids 13+

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:32:20 AM
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xXfireglzXx posted...
If you're asking if she'll float or sink as a result of this change, I have two fairly prominent reasons that she'll float.

:O
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Error1355
05/24/21 10:32:29 AM
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lol @ 'twitch goddess'.

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Tenlaar
05/24/21 10:33:20 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
"Hot tub" streamers took a good faith rule that wouldn't punish streamers for going to the beach and turned it into an excuse to wear what's essentially lingerie on a website for kids 13+
Yep. It's ridiculous to treat women in skimpy bikinis writhing around on their bedroom floors in toddler pools as anything but softcore porn. The intention clearly became earning money through titillation.
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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:33:44 AM
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Error1355 posted...
lol @ 'twitch goddess'.

Take that back or I will mod you!
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SpiritSephiroth
05/24/21 10:38:06 AM
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Geez she was earning that much? Fucking hell.

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:39:18 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Geez she was earning that much? Fucking hell.

We should have all been twitch goddesses.
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ModLogic
05/24/21 10:42:44 AM
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Jagr_68
05/24/21 10:43:21 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
I read that in their voices.

Every single time concerning twitch and cam thots.

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ShyOx
05/24/21 10:44:38 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
$130 a day for 15 hours of work?

That's just ads revenue. She still makes bank on her donations, 30k a month patreon, and of course from THAT SITE.

They're only streaming to lure in the horndogs. People are not tuning in for their personalities lol

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 10:47:44 AM
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ShyOx posted...
People are not tuning in for their personalities lol

EXCUUSE ME!?!?
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Gobstoppers12
05/24/21 10:48:05 AM
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ShyOx posted...
They're only streaming to lure in the horndogs.
This is absolutely true. It's probably one of the reasons the advertisers were so pushy about it. They don't want their products to be mentioned in the same breath as "those sites" that literally sell pornography. Using Twitch as a pipeline to get young and/or impressionable guys to spend hundreds of dollars a year on donations and 'pay sites' seems pretty scummy, don't you think?

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Error1355
05/24/21 10:57:01 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Take that back or I will mod you!
I mean she is very attractive but her content is dull as fuck. <_<

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HBOSS
05/24/21 10:59:52 AM
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wtf all for promoting her own stuff on twitch? ...thats what happened to her right?


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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 11:02:33 AM
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Error1355 posted...
I mean she is very attractive but her content is dull as fuck. <_<

Ok, you will not be modded.
Yea hottub stream pretty dull.
Ban appeals can be funny.
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DirkDiggles
05/24/21 11:08:28 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
I read that in their voices.

Me too.

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WingsOfGood
05/24/21 11:09:09 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
This. She probably has a patreon where shes making all this back. Ad revenue is now just gravy for these folks.

You guys hate her success huh?
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Gheb
05/24/21 11:10:02 AM
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This was ultimately an inevitability of the loophole abuse. The content was drifting closer and closer to adult content at least from how advertisers view it. And adult content never pulls the advertising money that non-adult content does. So the advertisers are either gonna want to pull their ads entirely or get a discount. Thus hurting the monetization.

This isn't a judgement of any of the hot tub streamers. Get that money while you can. But if they weren't expecting this to happen, then they lacked a greater understanding of how web advertisements work because this was the obvious conclusion.

None of this justifies how bad Twitch has been at communicating though. Your streamers shouldn't have to guess or be surprised about being demonetized. They should have communicated clearly that the content they are creating results in a notable decrease in advertising revenues and as a result they will be receiving less (or no) advertising money pending a change in content. Like there is a perfectly justifiable reason for why they doing it. You just have to explain it.

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shevman
05/24/21 11:15:22 AM
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Her ad revenue was just a small fraction of her income related to streaming. Thats why she continued hot tub streaming even after she was demonetised without warning. Shes also pulling 3-5x more viewers doing hot tub streams than what she was before she started doing it - so overall its clearly worth it for her to continue even with the pathetic ad revenue she gets now.

Also lets not forget that all these thots are competing for the same viewers. So if Amouranth stops hot tubbing, shes gonna lose a significant chunk of viewership to a competing thot that continues doing it. And thats how the meta is born.
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MrKapowski
05/24/21 11:16:13 AM
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https://youtu.be/mkrnLNZ7cg0

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