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finalbossfight
05/19/21 8:33:09 AM
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I was looking at logical fallacy examples, and one of them was appeal to motive. But is this actually a logical fallacy, because I feel it actually is truthful in many situations.
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g980
05/19/21 8:35:24 AM
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Youre only asking so you can justify hitting babies
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ButteryMales
05/19/21 8:57:06 AM
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g980 posted...
Youre only asking so you can justify hitting babies
Shame, TC.
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Squall28
05/19/21 8:59:11 AM
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Yes, you're not supposed to attack the other person. You attack the argument.

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COVxy
05/19/21 9:02:42 AM
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I mean, informal "logical fallacies" are all pretty much bullshit anyway, so you might as well pick and choose the ones you like.

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finalbossfight
05/19/21 9:06:47 AM
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COVxy posted...
I mean, informal "logical fallacies" are all pretty much bullshit anyway, so you might as well pick and choose the ones you like.
i'm confused, what do you mean by this.

what's a formal vs informal logical fallacy?
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COVxy
05/19/21 9:13:03 AM
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finalbossfight posted...
i'm confused, what do you mean by this.

what's a formal vs informal logical fallacy?

Informal logical fallacies seem to be more or less good rules of thumb for debate class. They're the things you hear about all the time, "ad hominem", "appeal to authority", "strawman".

Formal logical fallacies are actual errors of reasoning. Affirming the consequent, for example.

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averagejoel
05/19/21 9:18:00 AM
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I think it can probably be considered a kind of sub-category of ad hominem

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Serious Cat
05/19/21 9:32:34 AM
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Yes, it's a fallacy. Having a motive doesn't negate facts.

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finalbossfight
05/19/21 9:45:37 AM
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COVxy posted...
Informal logical fallacies seem to be more or less good rules of thumb for debate class. They're the things you hear about all the time, "ad hominem", "appeal to authority", "strawman".

Formal logical fallacies are actual errors of reasoning. Affirming the consequent, for example.
I see

But why are informal fallacies "BS" in your opinion?
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Cocytus
05/19/21 9:52:33 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Yes, you're not supposed to attack the other person. You attack the argument.
What if I don't like the person but I like the argument?
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