Current Events > Lmao at establishments using the honor system for covid

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SauI_Goodman
05/14/21 7:46:48 PM
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Hey. You there! Are you vaccinated?
Uhhhhh. Yeah.
Okay then!

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IdiotMachine
05/14/21 7:47:06 PM
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Whats the alternative?

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Flamer_Blue
05/14/21 7:48:43 PM
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I fail to see the honor system.

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ElatedVenusaur
05/14/21 7:49:37 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
Whats the alternative?
Asking for the vaccination card, obviously.
That would require businesses to turn people away though, and LOL if you think more than a tiny handful would do that.
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BeantownHero
05/14/21 7:55:06 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
Whats the alternative?

Vaccine passports, but the muh liberties crowd complained loud enough, so we are just essentially throwing our hands to the sky and reopening

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brestugo
05/14/21 7:57:53 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
Vaccine passports, but the muh liberties crowd complained loud enough, so we are just essentially throwing our hands to the sky and reopening
The private sector will demand them. Liability insurance is a bitch.



Other countries VP looks like this. Scan the code, show valid ID and you're done.

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NinjaWarrior455
05/14/21 8:08:46 PM
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Without having some form of vaccine passports the cases are gonna soar in no time.

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Bleuets
05/14/21 8:16:22 PM
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Businesses want , they dont care if youre vaccinated
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brestugo
05/14/21 8:22:09 PM
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Bleuets posted...
Businesses want , they dont care if youre vaccinated

The customers do.

People are going to demand a safe place to congregate. And they will pay to do so. Ticketmaster, Cruise lines, sporting venues, Airlines, and theme parks are already making plans for a VP. Sit down restaurants and bars are next.

The liability insurance for hosting a superspreader will be immense and people will vote with their wallet to avoid those places that don't have screening for vaccinations. I know I will.

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SK8T3R215
05/14/21 8:28:17 PM
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brestugo posted...
People are going to demand a safe place to congregate.

Then be vaccinated and anyone there who lies about being vaccinated is at a substantially higher risk than you are...

Or if you're still scared then stay home and avoid restaurants?

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Duncanwii
05/14/21 8:30:26 PM
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Florida and several other states have banned Vaccine Passes though.
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brestugo
05/14/21 8:30:29 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
Then be vaccinated and anyone there who lies about being vaccinated is at a substantially higher risk than you are...

Or if you're still scared then stay home and avoid restaurants?
The willfully unvaccinated should be making the adjustments. Anyway, it's a moot point. The private sector is moving already, and it's moving in favor of a VP.

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JoeBurrow
05/14/21 8:31:28 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Florida and several other states have banned Vaccine Passes though.
Then those states and businesses in them can go fuck themselves.
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brestugo
05/14/21 8:34:26 PM
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If a private establishment can require shoes and shirts, they can require proof of vaccination for service. Although it wouldn't surprise me if Florida banned shoes and shirts the way things are going down there.

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SK8T3R215
05/14/21 8:43:19 PM
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brestugo posted...
The willfully unvaccinated should be making the adjustments.

They are still supposed to wear masks. If they don't want and choose to lie to not wear them then they are putting themselves at risk with each other. If you're vaccinated the odds of getting covid from them and it being serious are so negligible that being scared is asinine.

Its like becoming a hermit because going outside may result in you being hit by a car or shot by someone. Sure it could happen but the odds are so small its stupid to do.

Here's the numbers, if you're scared of being one of those people hospitalized or dead after getting vaccinated then maybe you should avoid public places indefinitely.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/past-breakthrough-data.html

That was older data, the newer ones only track serious cases and not asymptomatic cases:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

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brestugo
05/14/21 8:48:01 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
They are still supposed to wear masks. If they don't want and choose to lie to not wear them then they are putting themselves at risk with each other. If you're vaccinated the odds of getting covid from them and it being serious are so negligible that being scared is asinine.

Its like becoming a hermit because going outside may result in you being hit by a car or shot by someone. Sure it could happen but the odds are so small its stupid to do.
A VP eliminates your entire first sentence. Why should the people who can't get vaccinated and are immunocompromised be at the mercy of those who willfully choose not to?

We gave jerks a chance in this country. They won't wear masks and they won't get the shot. They can't be trusted.

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Houston
05/14/21 8:56:17 PM
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brestugo posted...
A VP eliminates your entire first sentence. Why should the people who can't get vaccinated and are immunocompromised be at the mercy of those who willfully choose not to?

We gave jerks a chance in this country. They won't wear masks and they won't get the shot. They can't be trusted.

Wouldn't a VP affect people who physically can't get the vaccine? Wouldn't it limit the things they can do, too?

How come you didn't address the rest of his post regarding your level of risk? You're vaccinated, you really don't have anything to worry about. Let people make their own choices. I personally chose not to get the vaccine because I find my risk of dying or getting seriously ill very low and I don't want to take a vaccine where the potential long term effects are still unknown.

I don't mind if other people take it. I'm not anti vax per say, it's just not for me. I think you should stay out of our business.

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CobraGT
05/14/21 8:58:07 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
They are still supposed to wear masks. If they don't want and choose to lie to not wear them then they are putting themselves at risk with each other. If you're vaccinated the odds of getting covid from them and it being serious are so negligible that being scared is asinine.

Its like becoming a hermit because going outside may result in you being hit by a car or shot by someone. Sure it could happen but the odds are so small its stupid to do.

Here's the numbers, if you're scared of being one of those people hospitalized or dead after getting vaccinated then maybe you should avoid public places indefinitely.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/past-breakthrough-data.html

That was older data, the newer ones only track serious cases and not asymptomatic cases:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Whatever you decide?/s

Once FDA approves the vaccine it will be required.

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Umbreon
05/14/21 8:58:21 PM
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Stores don't even enforce wearing masks half the time, so I don't have much faith in them keeping out unvaccinated.


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Unsugarized_Foo
05/14/21 8:58:49 PM
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Stay home if it bugs ya too much

Or create a company to bouncer places

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pure_temper
05/14/21 9:02:37 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Stay home if it bugs ya too much

this

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brestugo
05/14/21 9:02:52 PM
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Houston posted...
Wouldn't a VP affect people who physically can't get the vaccine? Wouldn't it limit the things they can do, too?

How come you didn't address the rest of his post regarding your level of risk? You're vaccinated, you really don't have anything to worry about. Let people make their own choices. I personally chose not to get the vaccine because I find my risk of dying or getting seriously ill very low and I don't want to take a vaccine where the potential long term effects are still unknown.

I don't mind if other people take it. I'm not anti vax per say, it's just not for me. I think you should stay out of our business.
He added text after I replied. Those who can't get vaccinated are exempt per ADA. The willfully unvaccinated are leading to more variants which means more shots and boosters for everyone including the vaccinated. It is my business.


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TomNook20
05/14/21 9:04:05 PM
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BeantownHero
05/14/21 9:04:20 PM
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The entitlement of people who wont get vaccinated is wild

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brestugo
05/14/21 9:07:45 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
The entitlement of people who wont get vaccinated is wild
They actually believe they're legitimately at the table in a discussion of public health.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/14/21 9:08:44 PM
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brestugo posted...
The private sector will demand them. Liability insurance is a bitch.



Other countries VP looks like this. Scan the code, show valid ID and you're done.

Show a valid ID????? Do you not remember the massive shit storm that happened in Georgia?? What a racist post

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What_
05/14/21 9:10:25 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Show a valid ID????? Do you not remember the massive shit storm that happened in Georgia?? What a racist post
Imagine comparing voting to covid
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metralo
05/14/21 9:12:13 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Show a valid ID????? Do you not remember the massive shit storm that happened in Georgia?? What a racist post

completely different from a covid vaccine, which is free and saves lives

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brestugo
05/14/21 9:13:23 PM
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What_ posted...
Imagine comparing voting to covid

The ID issue is that red states make it so hard to get one for some people. But that poster is really trying to engage in whataboutism.

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Houston
05/14/21 9:17:41 PM
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brestugo posted...
The ID issue is that red states make it so hard to get one for some people. But that poster is really trying to engage in whataboutism.

Really? How so? You need to have an ID for pretty much everything including having even a job at Mc Donalds.... I can't imagine there's a lot of people without an ID.

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LightHawKnight
05/14/21 9:18:56 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Asking for the vaccination card, obviously.
That would require businesses to turn people away though, and LOL if you think more than a tiny handful would do that.

The problem is, at least for me is the vaccine card is to big to fit in my wallet and I am still using an old school folding wallet. Should probably get it laminated and put on a lanyard or something. Though still waiting for my 2nd dose on monday first.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/14/21 9:20:49 PM
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Requiring an ID in order to buy food and water for yourself sounds pretty racist, a lot worse than requiring an ID to vote.

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metralo
05/14/21 9:22:55 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Requiring an ID in order to buy food and water for yourself sounds pretty racist, a lot worse than requiring an ID to vote.

maybe if you're a dipshit

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brestugo
05/14/21 9:36:58 PM
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Houston posted...
Really? How so? You need to have an ID for pretty much everything including having even a job at Mc Donalds.... I can't imagine there's a lot of people without an ID.
Let's not derail the thread on this but the closing of DMV offices and limiting of hours and staff to make it hard for minorities and the poor to get an ID has been documented for decades.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/23/us/politics/voting-rights-alabama.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54240651


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brestugo
05/14/21 9:38:08 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Requiring an ID in order to buy food and water for yourself sounds pretty racist, a lot worse than requiring an ID to vote.
Supermarkets are not restaurants or concert venues. And since when do you care about the plight of minorities?

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kingdrake2
05/14/21 9:43:08 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
at least for me is the vaccine card is to big to fit in my wallet


i face that same problem :(.
not really supposed to bring it around. easier to get a picture of it. easy to prove with a license on hand as well.

would be open to a smartphone app. not that i'm worth a 5$ money order to 7-11.
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Flauros
05/14/21 9:44:42 PM
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I bet there is a huge underground for fake vax cards growing as we speak.

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hockeybub89
05/14/21 9:47:02 PM
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We really should mandate vaccine cards/passports

Houston posted...
Really? How so? You need to have an ID for pretty much everything including having even a job at Mc Donalds.... I can't imagine there's a lot of people without an ID.
Millions of adult Americans have no photo ID and Republicans want to keep it that way

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Goatsensation
05/14/21 9:47:55 PM
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Bet their employees feel appreciated

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brestugo
05/14/21 9:47:55 PM
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Flauros posted...
I bet there is a huge underground for fake vax cards growing as we speak.
They busted a guy selling them out of a bar just this week.

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Houston
05/14/21 10:02:01 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
We really should mandate vaccine cards/passports

Millions of adult Americans have no photo ID and Republicans want to keep it that way

I find that hard to believe. How do they get jobs?

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CobraGT
05/15/21 1:03:05 AM
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UK, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Norway already have nationalized health care and a database with everyone's records. All that they have to do for

Vaccine Passport is display it.

The United States does not have this data base and creating it is way more difficult than just vaccinating. What is easy is to get people to agree with doing vaccine passports instead of vaccinating and pretending that the vaccine passports are legit.

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David1988
05/15/21 1:09:16 AM
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Instead of vaccine passports the government should just mandate everyone get vaccines under threat of fines or prison time. Cut out the middle man.

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