Poll of the Day > Some duders around here are flying the confederate flag...

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Lokarin 05/13/21 3:09:06 AM #1:	In Canada. ...yeah --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953851735] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>In Canada. ...yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 05/13/21 3:41:34 AM #2:	Weird! I wonder what is their story. <cite>hungrymike posted [p:953852180] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Weird! I wonder what is their story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanatteru 05/13/21 3:51:10 AM #3:	Lokarin posted... In Canada. in alberta, specifically, and that distinction matters i used to see trump stickers on cars when i lived there lol --- despair-inducing <cite>Kanatteru posted [p:953852304] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>In Canada.</quote> in alberta, specifically, and that distinction matters i used to see trump stickers on cars when i lived there lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/13/21 3:58:32 AM #4:	flags are so dumb its 2021 do we really wanna keep waving flags around like idiots --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:953852403] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>flags are so dumb its 2021 do we really wanna keep waving flags around like idiots </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/13/21 4:07:06 AM #5:	Kanatteru posted... in alberta, specifically, and that distinction matters i used to see trump stickers on cars when i lived there lol There was also a nazi flag next to it, but I didn't recognize which exact flag it was... --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953852512] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Kanatteru posted... </cite> <quote>in alberta, specifically, and that distinction matters i used to see trump stickers on cars when i lived there lol</quote> There was also a nazi flag next to it, but I didn't recognize which exact flag it was... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EclairReturns 05/13/21 4:10:51 AM #6:	Kanatteru posted... alberta Kanatteru posted... that distinction matters I don't understand why American politics are relevant there. --- Number XII: Larxene. The Organization's Savage Nymph. <cite>EclairReturns posted [p:953852566] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kanatteru posted...</cite> <quote>alberta</quote> <cite>Kanatteru posted...</cite> <quote>that distinction matters</quote> I don't understand why American politics are relevant there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 05/13/21 4:26:51 AM #7:	Duders --- Bah weep grannah weep ni ni bon <cite>rexcrk posted [p:953852718] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Duders </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/13/21 5:25:14 AM #8:	rexcrk posted... Duders yee, I say that all the time --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953853353] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>rexcrk posted... </cite> <quote>Duders</quote> yee, I say that all the time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 05/13/21 6:39:10 AM #9:	--- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:953854201] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/13/21 6:41:10 AM #10:	captpackrat posted... ok, get this - the flag they have is the top one, the 'battle flag'... that might, not sure, but it MIGHT be illegal to run that flag since you are running the colours of a foreign combatant. The middle one is more grey and might be covered by our limited free speech. Bottom one fits well with our French heritage --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953854214] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted... </cite> <quote></quote> ok, get this - the flag they have is the top one, the 'battle flag'... that might, not sure, but it MIGHT be illegal to run that flag since you are running the colours of a foreign combatant. The middle one is more grey and might be covered by our limited free speech. Bottom one fits well with our French heritage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 05/13/21 9:39:49 AM #11:	EclairReturns posted... I don't understand why American politics are relevant there. Well, that's the seamless "beauty" of confederate flags/Trumpism. If all you want to do is give people the middle finger you don't need to be logical. In fact, logic is usually one of the things they're giving the middle finger to. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:953857399] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>EclairReturns posted... </cite> <quote>I don't understand why American politics are relevant there.</quote>Well, that's the seamless "beauty" of confederate flags/Trumpism. If all you want to do is give people the middle finger you don't need to be logical. In fact, logic is usually one of the things they're giving the middle finger to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 05/13/21 9:41:13 AM #12:	EclairReturns posted... I don't understand why American politics are relevant there. think about it. why would the politics of your neighboring country matter? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:953857440] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>EclairReturns posted... </cite> <quote>I don't understand why American politics are relevant there.</quote> think about it. why would the politics of your neighboring country matter? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeteoricBurst 05/13/21 9:51:25 AM #13:	Fam_Fam posted... think about it. why would the politics of your neighboring country matter? It's not that the politics don't matter it's that these Canada conserva-shills are so invested in Trump/GOP as if they're in the party and actual US citizens. Its baffling. --- "I had no choice but to choose the DLC." - Junichi Masuda <cite>MeteoricBurst posted [p:953857697] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>think about it. why would the politics of your neighboring country matter?</quote> It's not that the politics don't matter it's that these Canada conserva-shills are so invested in Trump/GOP as if they're in the party and actual US citizens. Its baffling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/13/21 9:53:40 AM #14:	I saw a house flying confederate flags in London, Ontario. But then London has a lot of... special people. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:953857755] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>I saw a house flying confederate flags in London, Ontario. But then London has a lot of... special people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
beefcake71090 05/13/21 5:28:32 PM #15:	Duder is the best term to use for people. --- I could be there when you land. <cite>beefcake71090 posted [p:953872958] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Duder is the best term to use for people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 05/13/21 9:25:29 PM #16:	Canadians being anti-American, news at 11. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:953880688] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Canadians being anti-American, news at 11. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HelIWithoutSin 05/13/21 9:27:26 PM #17:	Lokarin posted... There was also a nazi flag next to it, but I didn't recognize which exact flag it was... Ask Zeus. --- And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. -Hans Gruber <cite>HelIWithoutSin posted [p:953880738] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>There was also a nazi flag next to it, but I didn't recognize which exact flag it was...</quote> Ask Zeus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/13/21 9:31:09 PM #18:	I've lived on Vancouver Island 95% of my life. They exist there too. It's because they're a) racist b) ignorant c) contrarian d) have 0 cultural connection to the South whatsoever e) all of the above Throw homophobic in too. They always own a truck. They're trying to play a character and succeeding in all of the wrong ways. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:953880839] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>I've lived on Vancouver Island 95% of my life. They exist there too. It's because they're a) racist b) ignorant c) contrarian d) have 0 cultural connection to the South whatsoever e) all of the above Throw homophobic in too. They always own a truck. They're trying to play a character and succeeding in all of the wrong ways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/13/21 9:33:02 PM #19:	Lokarin posted... There was also a nazi flag next to it, but I didn't recognize which exact flag it was... A Nazi flag is next level :\ There was another flag too? Maybe the original Canadian flag? Some White Nationalists use that and make a big deal about Canada being a British Colony for white people. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:953880896] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>There was also a nazi flag next to it, but I didn't recognize which exact flag it was...</quote>A Nazi flag is next level :\ There was another flag too? Maybe the original Canadian flag? Some White Nationalists use that and make a big deal about Canada being a British Colony for white people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/13/21 9:58:13 PM #20:	Veedrock- posted... Canadians being anti-American, news at 11. What's American about Nazis? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953881658] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Canadians being anti-American, news at 11.</quote> What's American about Nazis? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 05/13/21 11:54:50 PM #21:	Lokarin posted... What's American about Nazis? Are you seriously interpreting my post to be directed at the Canadians in this topic condemning the flags, rather than being about at the flags which the topic is about? Jfc. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:953884921] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>What's American about Nazis?</quote>Are you seriously interpreting my post to be directed at the Canadians in this topic condemning the flags, rather than being about at the flags which the topic is about? Jfc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 05/13/21 11:58:31 PM #22:	They are seriously not upholding the values of dudes. --- My theme song - https://youtu.be/uYjM-BuE3Cs <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:953884997] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>They are seriously not upholding the values of dudes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/14/21 12:02:58 AM #23:	Veedrock- posted... Are you seriously interpreting my post to be directed at the Canadians in this topic condemning the flags, rather than being about at the flags which the topic is about? Jfc. not 'seriously', I merely sleepy-boo misunderstood --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953885120] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Are you seriously interpreting my post to be directed at the Canadians in this topic condemning the flags, rather than being about at the flags which the topic is about? Jfc.</quote> not 'seriously', I merely sleepy-boo misunderstood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 05/14/21 1:21:49 AM #24:	It's a symbol for racism, not sure what you're confused by bigots everywhere. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:953886864] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>It's a symbol for racism, not sure what you're confused by bigots everywhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/14/21 1:27:44 AM #25:	BlackScythe0 posted... It's a symbol for racism, not sure what you're confused by bigots everywhere. there is sooo much propaganda and mental gymnastics in the rural south about how it isnt racist at all because blah blah blah actually just a symbol of southern pride none of it holds up to even a minor amount of scrutiny but people parrot it to each other left and right and they go crazy when someone displays it cause to them its just a cool middle finger to rules --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:953886986] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>It's a symbol for racism, not sure what you're confused by bigots everywhere.</quote> there is sooo much propaganda and mental gymnastics in the rural south about how it isnt racist at all because blah blah blah actually just a symbol of southern pride none of it holds up to even a minor amount of scrutiny but people parrot it to each other left and right and they go crazy when someone displays it cause to them its just a cool middle finger to rules </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/14/21 1:34:41 AM #26:	the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:953887105] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 05/14/21 2:02:13 AM #27:	Mead posted... there is sooo much propaganda and mental gymnastics in the rural south about how it isnt racist at all because blah blah blah actually just a symbol of southern pride none of it holds up to even a minor amount of scrutiny but people parrot it to each other left and right and they go crazy when someone displays it cause to them its just a cool middle finger to rules It can mean whatever they want it to mean to themselves. It's still a hate symbol and that just isn't a thing they can challenge. When they chose to affiliate with it they are making that choice. Lokarin posted... the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one? It's a more universal thing at this point, it's all over europe. It's like how that Dylan Roof dude wore the Rhodesian flag. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:953887524] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>there is sooo much propaganda and mental gymnastics in the rural south about how it isnt racist at all because blah blah blah actually just a symbol of southern pride none of it holds up to even a minor amount of scrutiny but people parrot it to each other left and right and they go crazy when someone displays it cause to them its just a cool middle finger to rules</quote> It can mean whatever they want it to mean to themselves. It's still a hate symbol and that just isn't a thing they can challenge. When they chose to affiliate with it they are making that choice. Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one?</quote> It's a more universal thing at this point, it's all over europe. It's like how that Dylan Roof dude wore the Rhodesian flag. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/14/21 2:06:44 AM #28:	BlackScythe0 posted... It can mean whatever they want it to mean to themselves. It's still a hate symbol and that just isn't a thing they can challenge. When they chose to affiliate with it they are making that choice. I dont disagree but there are a lot of people that will never see it that way --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:953887583] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>It can mean whatever they want it to mean to themselves. It's still a hate symbol and that just isn't a thing they can challenge. When they chose to affiliate with it they are making that choice.</quote> I dont disagree but there are a lot of people that will never see it that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 05/14/21 2:13:50 AM #29:	Mead posted... I dont disagree but there are a lot of people that will never see it that way We just had people try and overthrow the government because they refuse to accept reality. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:953887712] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>I dont disagree but there are a lot of people that will never see it that way</quote> We just had people try and overthrow the government because they refuse to accept reality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/14/21 2:15:32 AM #30:	hungrymike posted... Weird! I wonder what is their story. They probably thought it was funny and that people would bite. Everybody sure showed them! wpot posted... Well, that's the seamless "beauty" of confederate flags/Trumpism. If all you want to do is give people the middle finger you don't need to be logical. In fact, logic is usually one of the things they're giving the middle finger to. This post is a great example of not needing to be logical. ReturnOfFa posted... d) have 0 cultural connection to the South whatsoever Which has nothing to do with the rest. After all, most of the people there aren't from the American South but they don't do it. ReturnOfFa posted... Throw homophobic in too. They always own a truck. ITP: "Owning a truck is homophobic" >_> BlackScythe0 posted... It's a symbol for racism, Heritage, not hate... well, in this case, it's probably not heritage. It's either for the association with a rebel spirit (a la Dukes of Hazzard) or for the racist connotations. Lokarin posted... the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one? Probably because it's more famous and therefore more likely to garner attention... as well being easier to get. undefined posted... there is sooo much propaganda and mental gymnastics in the rural south about how it isnt racist at all because blah blah blah actually just a symbol of southern pride Typical Brisashi shitpost. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953887735] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>hungrymike posted... </cite> <quote>Weird! I wonder what is their story.</quote> They probably thought it was funny and that people would bite. Everybody sure showed them! wpot posted... </cite> <quote>Well, that's the seamless "beauty" of confederate flags/Trumpism. If all you want to do is give people the middle finger you don't need to be logical. In fact, logic is usually one of the things they're giving the middle finger to.</quote> This post is a great example of not needing to be logical. ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>d) have 0 cultural connection to the South whatsoever</quote> Which has nothing to do with the rest. After all, most of the people there aren't from the American South but they don't do it. ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Throw homophobic in too. They always own a truck.</quote> ITP: "Owning a truck is homophobic" >_> BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>It's a symbol for racism,</quote> Heritage, not hate... well, in this case, it's probably not heritage. It's either for the association with a rebel spirit (a la Dukes of Hazzard) or for the racist connotations. Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one?</quote> Probably because it's more famous and therefore more likely to garner attention... as well being easier to get. undefined posted... </cite> <quote>there is sooo much propaganda and mental gymnastics in the rural south about how it isnt racist at all because blah blah blah actually just a symbol of southern pride</quote> Typical Brisashi shitpost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/14/21 2:16:05 AM #31:	Lokarin posted... the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one? Attention/lack of imagination/being part of a club/united white nationalism across the American continent. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:953887742] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>the thing is, we have racist canadian paraphernalia, so why use the american one?</quote>Attention/lack of imagination/being part of a club/united white nationalism across the American continent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/14/21 2:18:15 AM #32:	Zeus posted... ITP: "Owning a truck is homophobic" >_> No, associating with hate groups generally outs you as a homophobe. Insecure racist Albertans usually own a truck too. Owning a truck isn't homophobic. You read what I wrote wrong, or how you wanted to. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:953887776] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>ITP: "Owning a truck is homophobic" >_></quote>No, associating with hate groups generally outs you as a homophobe. Insecure racist Albertans usually own a truck too. Owning a truck isn't homophobic. You read what I wrote wrong, or how you wanted to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/14/21 2:26:18 AM #33:	ReturnOfFa posted... No, associating with hate groups generally outs you as a homophobe. Insecure racist Albertans usually own a truck too. Owning a truck isn't homophobic. You read what I wrote wrong, or how you wanted to. Because it's a weird fucking thing to highlight and the fact that you're highlighting it makes that kind of an implication. Not to mention that it's weird to see you protest one kind of bigotry while advancing another. And it's such an oddly specific bigotry that there isn't even a good word for it, since ochophobia is too general. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953887914] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>No, associating with hate groups generally outs you as a homophobe. Insecure racist Albertans usually own a truck too. Owning a truck isn't homophobic. You read what I wrote wrong, or how you wanted to.</quote> Because it's a weird fucking thing to highlight and the fact that you're highlighting it makes that kind of an implication. Not to mention that it's weird to see you protest one kind of bigotry while advancing another. And it's such an oddly specific bigotry that there isn't even a good word for it, since ochophobia is too general. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 05/14/21 2:49:20 AM #34:	Zeus posted... Because it's a weird fucking thing to highlight and the fact that you're highlighting it makes that kind of an implication. Not to mention that it's weird to see you protest one kind of bigotry while advancing another. And it's such an oddly specific bigotry that there isn't even a good word for it, since ochophobia is too general. Zeus, do you ever get tired of being proven to be a, in the words of the great Red Foreman, "dumbass"? <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:953888196] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Because it's a weird fucking thing to highlight and the fact that you're highlighting it makes that kind of an implication. Not to mention that it's weird to see you protest one kind of bigotry while advancing another. And it's such an oddly specific bigotry that there isn't even a good word for it, since ochophobia is too general.</quote>Zeus, do you ever get tired of being proven to be a, in the words of the great Red Foreman, "dumbass"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 05/14/21 3:29:47 AM #35:	Zeus posted... Because it's a weird fucking thing to highlight and the fact that you're highlighting it makes that kind of an implication. Not to mention that it's weird to see you protest one kind of bigotry while advancing another. And it's such an oddly specific bigotry that there isn't even a good word for it, since ochophobia is too general. Making fun of people isn't bigotry. People make fun of attributes of mine, including where I'm from quite regularly, and it can all be done in humour. Dude. Obviously someone with those flags is a racist. Many Albertan racists own trucks. It's a joke, go cry. Plus, it's a joke at the expense of Nazi-sympathizers. I could literally make this joke with friends of mine that own trucks, and they would not give a flying fuck. Is everybody that owns a truck supposed to shit themselves and band together whenever a joke is made involving assholes with trucks? Jesus H. fucking Christ. I've also seen a truckload of Albertans in Tofino with surfboards - I joked that they should just move - why waste gas living in the wrong province? Contort yourself more to semi-defend this and whine about my sense of humour. At least you said it's likely because they're racist at one point. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:953888710] in Some duder... [t:79456523]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Because it's a weird fucking thing to highlight and the fact that you're highlighting it makes that kind of an implication. Not to mention that it's weird to see you protest one kind of bigotry while advancing another. And it's such an oddly specific bigotry that there isn't even a good word for it, since ochophobia is too general.</quote>Making fun of people isn't bigotry. People make fun of attributes of mine, including where I'm from quite regularly, and it can all be done in humour. Dude. Obviously someone with those flags is a racist. Many Albertan racists own trucks. It's a joke, go cry. Plus, it's a joke at the expense of Nazi-sympathizers. I could literally make this joke with friends of mine that own trucks, and they would not give a flying fuck. Is everybody that owns a truck supposed to shit themselves and band together whenever a joke is made involving assholes with trucks? Jesus H. fucking Christ. I've also seen a truckload of Albertans in Tofino with surfboards - I joked that they should just move - why waste gas living in the wrong province? Contort yourself more to semi-defend this and whine about my sense of humour. At least you said it's likely because they're racist at one point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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