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CM_Ponch 05/12/21 11:02:38 PM #1: |
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/ted-cruz-sure-projecting-lot-democrats-voting-rights-bill-n1267047
I listened to Senator Schumer's speech where he recounted this country's shameful history of Jim Crow laws. And he's right, Jim Crow laws were bigoted, racist, and disenfranchised millions of people. It is worth remembering that those Jim Crow laws were drafted by Democrats, they were implemented by Democrats, and they kept Democrats in power. Now, today's talking point repeated in the media is that was the Democrats of yesterday, not today. Well, today, the Democrats are doing it again, this legislation, to use a phrase that has been popularized on the media recently, is Jim Crow 2.0. This legislation would disenfranchise millions of Americans. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 05/12/21 11:07:58 PM #2: |
I don't care what Ted Cruz says or thinks
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hockeybub89 05/12/21 11:13:40 PM #4: |
"But I don't want everyone to vote! Stop suppressing my right to be free of free voting."
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wackyteen 05/13/21 12:00:37 PM #5: |
Cancun Cruz should do us a favor and retire to Cancun
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wackyteen 05/13/21 12:04:25 PM #7: |
Revnir posted...
It's absolutely amazing that one of the two major parties in the U.S. is actively and openly hostile to democracy. Unreal.It isn't that amazing. They know that if everybody votes they'll never sniff Federal power again --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 05/13/21 12:04:38 PM #8: |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I don't care what Ted Cruz says or thinks ... --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 05/13/21 12:06:10 PM #9: |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I don't care what Ted Cruz says or thinksbased --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meralonne 05/13/21 12:06:13 PM #10: |
Ted Cruz should be reminded that all of those Democrats defected to the Republican party once the Democrats got behind tackling racial injustice.
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DarkRoast 05/13/21 12:12:54 PM #11: |
What's really crazy to me is that I know people who knew Cruz before he went into politics and they all universally thought he was a brilliant guy and very rational. They both said something to the effect of "I don't know what the hell happened to make him this way."
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Ruvan22 05/13/21 12:12:54 PM #12: |
How exactly is he defining these laws an Jim Crow?
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Xavier_On_High 05/13/21 12:17:27 PM #13: |
I'm too lazy to actually read up on this; how would helping millions of people to vote disenfranchise people? Like, I know it's just haunted conservative boglin Ted Cruz, but is there something I'm missing?
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eston 05/13/21 12:20:01 PM #15: |
It is worth remembering that those Jim Crow laws were drafted by Democrats, they were implemented by Democrats, and they kept Democrats in power.If only Ted Cruz bothered to study history he would understand what he's actually saying here, lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 05/13/21 12:22:02 PM #16: |
Ruvan22 posted...
How exactly is he defining these laws an Jim Crow?For his supporters it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. What GOP leaders say is the truth, regardless of fact. --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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littlebro07 05/13/21 12:23:47 PM #17: |
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Compsognathus 05/13/21 12:25:44 PM #18: |
DarkRoast posted...
What's really crazy to me is that I know people who knew Cruz before he went into politics and they all universally thought he was a brilliant guy and very rational. They both said something to the effect of "I don't know what the hell happened to make him this way."I regularly have to remind myself that a lot of politicians almost have to be smart people. Like it takes a degree of intelligence and cunning (and lots of money) to actually get into these positions of power. Ted Cruz probably isn't dumb but he is incredibly greedy and power hungry and will say whatever he needs to say to keep that power and influence. Like I don't believe that all the politicians voting against climate change legislation really believe that all these scientists are wrong and that humans have no impact. They very likely do. They just don't care and will say whatever they gotta say to keep their donors happy. --- *Gheb is my other account* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 05/13/21 12:28:02 PM #19: |
Ruvan22 posted...
How exactly is he defining these laws an Jim Crow?Jim Crow then: Voting laws implemented by Democrats to stay in power. Now Democrats are pushing voting laws and should those laws pass it will help Democrats maintain power. See? It is the exact same. Just ignore the context and the fact that the laws are complete opposites. That isn't the important part. --- *Gheb is my other account* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 05/13/21 12:30:04 PM #20: |
Compsognathus posted...
I regularly have to remind myself that a lot of politicians almost have to be smart people. Like it takes a degree of intelligence and cunning (and lots of money) to actually get into these positions of power. Ted Cruz probably isn't dumb but he is incredibly greedy and power hungry and will say whatever he needs to say to keep that power and influence. Lindsay Graham is probably the best example of a politician who knows better but still goes full Trump for the votes. --- Razer Blade 15 - Core i7-9750H, 32 GB RAM (2666), RTX 2080 MQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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berlyman101 05/13/21 12:30:23 PM #21: |
Compsognathus posted...
I regularly have to remind myself that a lot of politicians almost have to be smart people. Like it takes a degree of intelligence and cunning (and lots of money) to actually get into these positions of power. Ted Cruz probably isn't dumb but he is incredibly greedy and power hungry and will say whatever he needs to say to keep that power and influence. that oil/weapons lobbyist money hits extra different --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 05/13/21 12:35:14 PM #22: |
This is just an extension of the tired republican claim that "actually that's what democrats are doing."
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Machete 05/13/21 12:47:19 PM #23: |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Ted Cruz says or thinks My guess is says. Final answer. --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlCalavicci 05/13/21 12:53:35 PM #24: |
It is incredible that the talking point is now that more access to voting will disenfranchise voters' rights.
Break this down and basically what they are saying, is Republicans have had x amount of value to their votes due to all of the gerrymandering and voter suppression that the GQP have done. And now that the Democrats are fighting to make it easier for people to exercise their right to vote, the Republican voters, whose votes are not being suppressed, will be disenfranchised. He's literally saying, by allowing the Democrats the ability to vote, our cheating tactics won't work and your vote won't matter anymore because the Democrats will win. This is bananas --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/13/21 12:54:25 PM #25: |
Revnir posted...
It's absolutely amazing that one of the two major parties in the U.S. is actively and openly hostile to democracy. Unreal.Just, you know, look at the party names. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavier_On_High 05/13/21 12:58:24 PM #26: |
AlCalavicci posted...
It is incredible that the talking point is now that more access to voting will disenfranchise voters' rights. So basically, he's saying that equalizing people's ability to vote will devalue the votes of a subset of those who already can? That's absolutely f***ing insane. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlCalavicci 05/13/21 1:04:12 PM #27: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
So basically, he's saying that equalizing people's ability to vote will devalue the votes of a subset of those who already can? He's not outright saying it like this, but reading between the lines, I don't see how else this could be taken. And the base that he's speaking to just hears the buzz words and just assume that what the Democrats are doing is bad because that's how these people are leading their flock --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 05/13/21 1:22:00 PM #28: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
So basically, he's saying that equalizing people's ability to vote will devalue the votes of a subset of those who already can? Wasn't that also what Carlson said? Something like "why wouldn't you want to make rules to keep your power"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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