Current Events > Would it bother you if your kid started wearing girls clothes?

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One of my co-workers has been banging on about it all morning and I can't for the life of me understand why she or anyone else cares.

Let him be him man. It's fucking clothes. Not like he's doing meth and eating Guinea pigs

But when I say that she just gets madder

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My daughter wears a ton of girls clothing. Doesnt bother me.

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LordMarshal posted...

My daughter wears a ton of girls clothing. Doesnt bother me.

LOL

But nah, I wouldn't care. Pink is one of my son's favorite colors. And that typically a "girl color" but idgaf. The kid likes pink. So what

Well i have a girl so no i wouldnt mind.

I i had a son i wouldnt want him getting bullied to death in school so that would be a no go.

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Someone say pink in this thread? No one in MY house is wearing fucking pink for any reason. I don't care if you're a boy or girl or a fucking sentient giant penis statue. No pink.

You know who likes pink? Fairy types. In this household we stand Dark and Dragon types.

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First thought: idgaf, wear what you want. However...

Flauros posted...

i had a son i wouldnt want him getting bullied to death in school so that would be a no go.

Yeah, now that I think about it, this shit would happen. And I'm not sure I'd want my kid to go through this.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Let him be him man. It's fucking clothes. Not like he's doing meth and eating Guinea pigs

It's nice that you can lump doing illegal and harmful drugs with Peruvian and Bolivian culture.

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Slayer_22 posted...

had a son i wouldnt want him getting bullied to death in school so that would be a no go.

Yeah, now that I think about it, this shit would happen. And I'm not sure I'd want my kid to go through this.

This is bullshit logic, you don't give in to bullies you stand up to them

When segregation ended people bullied the fuck out of black students , according to your logic that means we should have kept segregation

If we never stood up to bullies Asia would be speaking Japanese, Mainland Europe would be speaking German and the US would still be English

We'd still have slavery and treat women like dogs

Fuck bullies . We do what's right

If people bullied your kid for his hair would you shave him bald?

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As someone who got bullied and stood up to a number of them its still horrible. Youre saying this probably as an adult. Lots of bullies i had to deal with were scary to me at the time.

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LordMarshal posted...

As someone who got bullied and stood up to a number of them its still horrible. Youre saying this probably as an adult. Lots of bullies i had to deal with were scary to me at the time.

You think I wasn't bullied too?

That doesn't make the bullies right dude


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UnfairRepresent posted...

You think I wasn't bullied too?

That doesn't make the bullies right dude

No. By nature of the word theyre even wrong. But even trying to not get bullied and dealing with them id hate to do anything to invite their attention.

Its odd to attack a parent for being worried that their childs decision might encourage bullying.

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LordMarshal posted...

No. By nature of the word theyre even wrong. But even trying to not get bullied and dealing with them id hate to do anything to invite their attention.

Its odd to attack a parent for being worried that their childs decision might encourage bullying.

Damn right I'm attacking parents for teaching their kids to not stand up to bullies, to encourage that bullying works as a means of change and that you need change who you are because of them.

Thats horrible

They look up to and learn from you and you're telling them to be cowards, be ashamed of themselves and that being evil Is right and successful

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Damn right I'm attacking parents for teaching their kids to not stand up to bullies, to encourage that bullying works as a means of change and that you change who you are because of them.

Thats horrible

Youre so brave and bold to go tell children to fight bullies.

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What are girl clothes
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LordMarshal posted...

Youre so brave and bold to go tell children to fight bullies.

You're dishonest as fuck

A black kid going to a desegretated school or a kid wearing girls clothes is not "telling children to go fight bullies "

You're so full of shit

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UnfairRepresent posted...

You're dishonest as fuck

A black lid going to a desegretated school or a lid wearing girls clothes is not "telling children to go fight bullies "

You're so full of shit

Lid?

Damn, youre wrecking bullies on a video game sites social board about current events. Thats just like raising children as well....

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Damn right I'm attacking parents for teaching their kids to not stand up to bullies, to encourage that bullying works as a means of change and that you change who you are because of them.

Thats horrible

Its not that simple man. I'll give you an example, my son was getting bullied at school by some fat fuck ginger, now while he took it in stride and didn't let him bother him because he has incredibly thick skin, when he told us the things this kid was doing my wife and I recognized it as attempted bullying right away and we asked him why he was letting this kid do this stuff. His response was the kid was really big and he was scared the kid would hurt him. We have both our kids in self defense classes because we believe it is important for them to learn how to defend themselves, but as a 7 year old kid he was still very concerned about getting hurt by a kid that could beat him up. I spoke with his teacher and the teacher told my son that if anything like that was happening to make sure he spoke up and she would deal with him. He hasn't had a problem since but if it was my daughter, who is actually really fucking sensitive, she'd probably have broken down and refused to go to school. Kids are super fucking complicated man.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

You're dishonest as fuck

A black kid going to a desegretated school or a kid wearing girls clothes is not "telling children to go fight bullies "

You're so full of shit

If a kid is getting bullied to the point of having to defend themselves then encouraging them to do things that might "invite" bullying, is essentially telling them to fight bullies.

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Everyone who voted yes is part of the problem.

You're not an ally.

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I mean, I dont think its a coincidence the one guy saying hed disallow it to protect from bullies is who he is.

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bullies will target you for breathing. changing yourself to try to avoid them is a terrible thing to advocate.

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Its important to let your child know that some might bully them for it but if they understand that and still want to do it then thats ok.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Its not that simple man. I'll give you an example, my son was getting bullied at school by some fat fuck ginger, now while he took it in stride and didn't let him bother him because he has incredibly thick skin, when he told us the things this kid was doing my wife and I recognized it as attempted bullying right away and we asked him why he was letting this kid do this stuff. His response was the kid was really big and he was scared the kid would hurt him. We have both our kids in self defense classes because we believe it is important for them to learn how to defend themselves, but as a 7 year old kid he was still very concerned about getting hurt by a kid that could beat him up. I spoke with his teacher and the teacher told my son that if anything like that was happening to make sure he spoke up and she would deal with him. He hasn't had a problem since but if it was my daughter, who is actually really fucking sensitive, she'd probably have broken down and refused to go to school. Kids are super fucking complicated man.

I don't get how any of that goes "Therefore bullies are right and shouldn't be challenged, should be feared and my kids need to learn to obey them and that bullying works "

Your entire story points out the opposite

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We used to wear girls jeans in hs, this was the precursor to skinny jeans lol

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Robot2600 posted...

Everyone who voted yes is part of the problem.

You're not an ally.

ok

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Maybe people are worried about bullies and people getting bullied because i dont know, maybe theres quite a few school shootings and nothing changes after them.

School is more or less like your childs job. Theyre there to learn and they have rules to follow. When you come home youre free to say more things and do more things that you might not at school.

Possibly doing something that would invite bullies or cause you to have to fight them might not be a good idea.

If your fighting bullies over your clothing im sure youre quite distracted from learning. Maybe we wear those clothings at home to avoid issues.

So how are youre children doing?

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't get how any of that goes "Therefore bullies are right and shouldn't be challenged, should be feared and my kids need to learn to obey them and that bullying works "

Your entire story points out the opposite

I'm not sure how you assumed my position was that bullies are right, my point was it is not as easy as just telling a kid to stand up to a bully.

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well yeah, i'd ask where the clothes came from

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I'm not sure how you assumed my position was that bullies are right, my point was it is not as easy as just telling a kid to stand up to a bully.

Kinda is.

You're defending the position of changing who you are and giving in because of potential bullies.

The alternative of "no that's fucked and so is any parent who endorses it" is that simple. Even if it's not easy, its obvious and simple

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UR, you're being an asshole

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Bullies gonna bully no matter what, the strategy shouldn't be to cower quietly and hope they don't pick you.

I would have no problem with my children dressing that way.

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its an attack on masculinity! damn you liberals!!

nah, but seriously, who gives a shit. if a dude wearing a skirt really bothers you, maybe you should reevaluate your priorities in life... lol

only if i've suddenly got to buy them a new wardrobe. kids clothing is already expensive as fuck.

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Yes, all these boy dinosaur shirts ain't gonna wear themselves

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Kinda is.

You're defending the position of changing who you are and giving in because of potential bullies.

The alternative of "no that's fucked and so is any parent who endorses it" is that simple. Even if it's not easy, its obvious and simple

Thats not what I am defending at all. Did you not read what I wrote? We asked our son why he wasn't standing up for himself, we encouraged him to do so. He was scared to do that so we went to the teacher for extra support.

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Xavier_On_High posted...

Bullies gonna bully no matter what, the strategy shouldn't be to cower quietly and hope they don't pick you.

Exactly

All that does is encourage and empower bullying while making your kid ashamed of themselves

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Xavier_On_High posted...

Bullies gonna bully no matter what, the strategy shouldn't be to cower quietly and hope they don't pick you.

I would have no problem with my children dressing that way.

How many kids do you have?

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What if your son thought the confederate flag and clothing with it was a true symbol of his heritage and people are wrong to associate it with hate?

Id tell him its a very bad idea and he seems to understand how its viewed so he shouldnt do that. This would cause needless fighting/bullying.

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Flauros posted...

How many kids do you have?

Two.

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Xavier_On_High posted...

Two.

Do you tell them to do whatever they want, even if that invites them to being harrassed?

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Flauros posted...

Do you tell them to do whatever they want, even if that invites them to being harrassed?

I tell them that if they are harassed, they should talk to me and I will fix it.

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Surprised it needs to be said in this day and age, but how you dress is not an invitation for aggressive behavior. Lets put the responsibility on the aggressors instead of the victims. This is the same argument people use when a woman is raped. She invited the attention by dressing that way is a horrible mentality that only perpetuates more victim blaming, and it wouldnt surprise me if the bullies who use this train of thought grow up to continue to use it to justify more terrible things.

Xavier_On_High posted...

I tell them that if they are harassed, they should talk to me and I will fix it.

How would you fix it?

Lets say your 14yo kid went to school in a princess dress and fairy wings everyday and was bullied relentlessly by the other teenagers for it. What would be your plan to curb that?

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BabyRoxann posted...

Most people who wouldnt let their child wear confederate clothing would object because its morally repugnant. A boy wearing a dress is morally neutral.

But hes arguing it shouldnt be as he sees it as his heritage and thats the problem, how others see it versus how he sees it.

Again, id say this isnt a good idea at all.

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Solid_Seb posted...

Surprised it needs to be said in this day and age, but how you dress is not an invitation for aggressive behavior. Lets put the responsibility on the aggressors instead of the victims. This is the same argument people use when a woman is raped. She invited the attention by dressing that way is a horrible mentality that only perpetuates more victim blaming, and it wouldnt surprise me if the bullies who use this train of thought grow up to continue to use it to justify more terrible things.

You're right but It's literally worse

These guys would be like the parents of the girl who was raped saying it was her fault and she needs to not wear nice clothes and avoid going out because of the rapists.

While showing 0 care to her and absolute defense of the rapists

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In a vacuum, no. With the consideration of how he may be treated, yes. With the exception of clothing being tailored to the male and female frame, the idea of gendered clothing is ultimately rather silly, but we do live in reality where people are assholes about it.

Flauros posted...

How would you fix it?

Lets say your 14yo kid went to school in a princess dress and fairy wings everyday and was bullied relentlessly by the other teenagers for it. What would be your plan to curb that?

I would talk to the school and I would talk to the teachers, and the bully's parents, and we would discuss the best way to curb the bully's behaviour. If the school and the parents did nothing I would take legal action.

The dress and fairy wings are irrelevant. Bullies will bully either way.

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did you intentionally not mention the gender of the "kid" in the OP or?

edit: oh its UR, of course that was on purpose

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