Current Events > People saying not to complain about Mortal Kombat being bad...

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Are the exact reason why we dont have many great video game movies.

youre easily satisfied so why are they even going to try?

uncharted movie is gonna suck and last of us show

count on it. Because they know you have low standards

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Silent Hill is pretty dang good

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It's just a shame that the best video game movie is still the original Mortal Kombat from 1995.

Though I heard the Sonic movie was surprisingly good

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While I don't have high hopes for Uncharted, I have higher hopes for it than I did Mortal Kombat.

I was genuinely stoked for Mortal Kombat. Then I watched it and...

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Turbam posted...

Silent Hill is pretty dang good

thats why I said we dont have many.

we have a few. Very few

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Oreos74 posted...

Are the exact reason why we dont have many great video game movies.

Why do you want video game movies?

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FWIW, Scorpion and Sub-Zero were awesome in the movie.

Too bad we ended up with......Cole Young....for most of the runtime

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The medium doesn't translate well. Video game movies suck. Stop making them.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Though I heard the Sonic movie was surprisingly good

It was a perfectly good kids movie but it didn't quite elevate itself to the kind of kids movie that adults can also legitimately enjoy without nostalgia.

Also, it sucks that even when we do get a good video game adaptation, like the first Silent Hill movie, studios can still manage to completely screw up with the sequels, like they did with the second Silent Hill movie.

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The problem here is the companies and royalties not really the people who make it. They're very limited with what they can work with

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Yeah, I thought the movie did a great job with the Scorpion vs Sub-Zero thing. Also, that was the best Goro, IMO, even if Goro never gets an impressive win in the movies.

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It's a shame. All I'd like to see one day is a movie based on a video game that's legitimately good. Every single one of them suck.
Including the OG Mortal Kombat film from '95 that people like to pretend is good for some reason.


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I mean it isn't bad, it is decent. If they cut out that Cole character and focused more on Scorpion and Sub Zero, it would have been a great prequel movie.

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Xatrion posted...

The medium doesn't translate well. Video game movies suck. Stop making them.

I don't see any reason it can't be done when comic books are even more convoluted and ridiculous.

The problem always boils down to studio execs not knowing anything about the video games they're adapting.

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El Mexicano Texano posted...

The problem here is the companies and royalties not really the people who make it. They're very limited with what they can work with

MK really has no excuse though since they're owned by WB lol

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Kitt posted...

All I'd like to see one day is a movie based on a video game that's legitimately good.

Why?

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we don't have great video game movies because video games are not a good medium for story telling

like the last of us is basically just your average walking dead episode, why would it make a good movie?

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

FWIW, Scorpion and Sub-Zero were awesome in the movie.

Too bad we ended up with......Cole Young....for most of the runtime

I don't know why they didn't just make "Cole Young" become Scorpion as his "arcana" in the first place instead of that silly suit they put him in.

Kitt posted...

It's a shame. All I'd like to see one day is a movie based on a video game that's legitimately good. Every single one of them suck.
Including the OG Mortal Kombat film from '95 that people like to pretend is good for some reason.

Nobody thinks the OG MK film is actually good. It's one of those "so bad it's good" flicks that you watch for shiggles. Hell, I don't think they actually had more than three actual martial artists in the damn thing.

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CyricZ posted...

Why do you want video game movies?

This is the big question, honestly.
Especially considering how cinematic modern games are, including the last like 3 MK games, I just don't see the point. It used to be that video game movies just weren't good adaptations, but now it's a combination of that plus the fact that the games are better movies than the movies are. Uncharted is going to suck, and so is The Last of Us.

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s0nicfan posted...

It was a perfectly good kids movie but it didn't quite elevate itself to the kind of kids movie that adults can also legitimately enjoy without nostalgia.

I was never a huge Sonic fan and I legitimately enjoyed it. It was funny.

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meralonne posted...

Nobody thinks the OG MK film is actually good. It's one of those "so bad it's good" flicks that you watch for shiggles. Hell, I don't think they actually had more than three actual martial artists in the damn thing.

Yeah. It's an enjoyably cheesy kung-fu movie that's 90s as fuck. What makes it an enjoyable watch is that it leans into the ridiculousness of the games so at the very least, it's never boring.

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LightHawKnight posted...

I mean it isn't bad, it is decent. If they cut out that Cole character and focused more on Scorpion and Sub Zero, it would have been a great prequel movie.

if you think its decent you havent seen a good action movie in a long time

for a movie about killing each other with brutal martial arts?

it has way too many cuts. The editing was too damn choppy. The only good fight was the first with scorpion but even THAT was choppy.

watch The Raid, The first John Wick. And even Daredevil.

thats how action movies need to be in modern times

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CyricZ posted...

Why?

Why not? It's not a necessity or anything, but I would just like to see someone pull it off one day.

Adapting things is a skill in and of itself and as someone who really likes films, that would be interesting to see it done right with a game property. If they can make comic books work, then someone out there have to have some sort of killer idea for a movie based on some game.

Of course, some titles work better than others. Ratchet & Clank could have absolutely worked as a film or something. Too bad the people they hired to make that were fucking trash long before they even touched that movie. So between that, and Sony's already not-so-great reputation as a movie studio, it sucking was inevitable.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

we don't have great video game movies because video games are not a good medium for story telling

like the last of us is basically just your average walking dead episode, why would it make a good movie?

The Last of Us blows almost every TWD episode out of the water.

There's no reason video games can't become multimedia franchises. They just need the right treatment.

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Oreos74 posted...

if you think its decent you havent seen a good action movie in a long time

for a movie about killing each other with brutal martial arts?

it has way too many cuts. The editing was too damn choppy. The only good fight was the first with scorpion but even THAT was choppy.

watch The Raid, The first John Wick. And even Daredevil.

thats how action movies need to be in modern times

And those are not decent. Those are great movies. I never said MK2021 was great. I said it was DECENT. Sure lots of cuts, throwaway characters and whatnot. Still had some good fights, a really good opening, Sub Zero, Scorpion and Kano were amazing. Pushes it up enough to be decent.

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eston posted...

This is the big question, honestly.
Especially considering how cinematic modern games are, including the last like 3 MK games, I just don't see the point. It used to be that video game movies just weren't good adaptations, but now it's a combination of that plus the fact that the games are better movies than the movies are. Uncharted is going to suck, and so is The Last of Us.

I always thought the best approach to a video game movie was to do a new storyline featuring familiar characters, themes and elements, not just simply adapting the original game storyline.

Halo and Mass Effect are two franchises that have great potential for movies, but I would prefer those movies to be new storylines that take place in the same universe.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I always thought the best approach to a video game movie was to do a new storyline featuring familiar characters, themes and elements, not just simply adapting the original game storyline.

Halo and Mass Effect are two franchises that have great potential for movies, but I would prefer those movies to be new storylines that take place in the same universe.

Yeah, straight adaptations are pointless, but I'd love to see new stories in some of my favorite universes.

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CyricZ posted...

Why do you want video game movies?

I used to think this. But then as games became more cinematic, I'd play them and think "wow that was a really good story. Too bad it was boring. I'd probably enjoy it more as a movie" or "wow that was a great story that I would like others to experience in an affordable and convenient manner"

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I always thought the best approach to a video game movie was to do a new storyline featuring familiar characters, themes and elements, not just simply adapting the original game storyline.

Halo and Mass Effect are two franchises that have great potential for movies, but I would prefer those movies to be new storylines that take place in the same universe.

disagree

comic book TV shows already proved this

Nobody gave a shit about agents of shield or agent carter

but Wanda vision and falcon and winter soldier are hits.

fans want to see their favorite characters. Not side characters. This is fact

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There is a difference between bad and not great. Mortal kombat isn't great, action movies rarely are, it's fine.

Fights were good, cgi was good, the mk game references were great, no forced romance plot was great.

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Kitt posted...

Adapting things is a skill in and of itself and as someone who really likes films, that would be interesting to see it done right with a game property. If they can make comic books work, then someone out there have to have some sort of killer for a movie based on some game.

Comic books and video games, while being niche media compared to films, are very different in that the former is very much a straight linear narrative.

eston summed it up pretty well, but for a couple of decades now we've been at the point where the video games themselves are presenting better "movie-like" experiences than any movies of them ever could. All that and interactivity.

There's a long-held social pressure to use being a movie as a litmus for how "legitimate" an IP is, and it's not just video games, of course, but TV shows, stage plays, books, comics, just about anything fictional.

But quite frankly given the trends these days, that concept is nothing more than nostalgia. TV shows are putting together grander narratives than film, comics can do unique things within their medium that no other can, etc.

If someone's going to make a video game movie, the first thing I'm going to do is wonder "why", and then if I'm halfway interested, I'm going to set my expectations WAY low so I don't worry about being disappointed because the movie doesn't match what I believethe property's established lore should be.

So too did I do it with MK2021 and I was quite entertained.

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Oreos74 posted...

disagree

comic book TV shows already proved this

Nobody gave a shit about agents of shield or agent carter

but Wanda vision and falcon and winter soldier are hits.

fans want to see their favorite characters. Not side characters. This is fact

You realize that Falcon, Bucky, Wanda and Vision were all supporting characters in other movies before getting their own shows, right?

In fact, I remember when Falcon and The Winter Soldier was first announced and a common sentiment was "Who wants to see a show about Falcon? LOL"

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

You realize that Falcon, Bucky, Wanda and Vision were all supporting characters in other movies before getting their own shows, right?

In fact, I remember when Falcon and The Winter Soldier first came out and a common sentiment was "Who wants to see a show about Falcon? LOL"

yes but they were still major characters and popular comic book characters.


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Oreos74 posted...

but Wanda vision and falcon and winter soldier are hits.

Which storyline in the comics did either of these shows completely adapt?

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I always thought the best approach to a video game movie was to do a new storyline featuring familiar characters, themes and elements, not just simply adapting the original game storyline.

Halo and Mass Effect are two franchises that have great potential for movies, but I would prefer those movies to be new storylines that take place in the same universe.

I like this idea too.

Even though I'm not much interested in it, I like that the Uncharted movie isn't straight up trying to adapt one of the game's story, but instead, tell a story about some different adventure that's still canon to the game's universe.

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LightHawKnight posted...

And those are not decent. Those are great movies. I never said MK2021 was great. I said it was DECENT. Sure lots of cuts, throwaway characters and whatnot. Still had some good fights, a really good opening, Sub Zero, Scorpion and Kano were amazing. Pushes it up enough to be decent.

truth.

dunno what people expected. i'm happy enough that we got a fucking awesome kano and a shit ton of references.

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Mk95 is fun, not good

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Kitt posted...

I like this idea too.

Even though I'm not much interested in it, I like that the Uncharted movie isn't straight up trying to adapt one of the game's story, but instead, tell a story about some different adventure that's still canon to the game's universe.

Nah man. I don't give a shit about anyone that's not Nathan Drake or Sully. Hence why I never bothered touching Lost Legacy no matter how much fun I had with the other games. If there was anything I liked Uncharted 3 for, it wasn't the "Last Crusade" opening segment where you play as young Drake.

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Gurifisu posted...

Nah man. I don't give a shit about anyone that's not Nathan Drake or Sully. Hence why I never bothered touching Lost Legacy no matter how much fun I had with the other games. If there was anything I liked Uncharted 3 for, it wasn't the "Last Crusade" opening segment where you play as young Drake.

But the movie is about Young Drake.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The problem always boils down to studio execs not knowing anything about the video games they're adapting.

Ding ding.

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Oreos74 posted...

yes but they were still major characters and popular comic book characters.

Doesn't really matter who they were in the comics because the MCU is mostly made for casual moviegoers anyway (but contains elements that comic fans can appreciate).

Like really, Sam Wilson shares almost no similarities with his comic counterpart other than his general role as Cap's friend.

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16-BITTER posted...

Fun is a subset of good

Not even remotely

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

But the movie is about Young Drake.

Yes... Perhaps I should have clarified, I'm not looking forward to this movie for that reason: as in, Young Drake isn't what kept me invested in the Uncharted series

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Why does everyone expect the Uncharted movie to suck? its so basic a premise.

Rip-off Indiana Jones, have some fun action scenes and some witty dialogue, and bam its a great uncharted movie. It isn't like 1/2 the series isn't very complicated to begin with.

i don't see anything wrong with the concept of video game movies. they just need to not be soulless fan service and work as movies on their own terms. people not steeped in the lore need to be able to enjoy it

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CyricZ posted...

Comic books and video games, while being niche media compared to films, are very different in that the former is very much a straight linear narrative.

eston summed it up pretty well, but for a couple of decades now we've been at the point where the video games themselves are presenting better "movie-like" experiences than any movies of them ever could. All that and interactivity.

There's a long-held social pressure to use being a movie as a litmus for how "legitimate" an IP is, and it's not just video games, of course, but TV shows, stage plays, books, comics, just about anything fictional.

But quite frankly given the trends these days, that concept is nothing more than nostalgia. TV shows are putting together grander narratives than film, comics can do unique things within their medium that no other can, etc.

If someone's going to make a video game movie, the first thing I'm going to do is wonder "why", and then if I'm halfway interested, I'm going to set my expectations WAY low so I don't worry about being disappointed because the movie doesn't match what I believethe property's established lore should be.

So too did I do it with MK2021 and I was quite entertained.

A pet peeves of mine in video game movies are fanservicey moments when they forget they're supposed to be a movie and try to replicate something in a way that's similar to the games they're based on. It usually have corny results. Stuff like that I'm not crazy about.

I wish more of them would be in the mindset of being a good movie first and foremost, and then being a movie based on a video game.

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Proto_Spark posted...

Why does everyone expect the Uncharted movie to suck? its so basic a premise.

Rip-off Indiana Jones, have some fun action scenes and some witty dialogue, and bam its a great uncharted movie. It isn't like 1/2 the series isn't very complicated to begin with.

I didn't say it's gonna suck. Word for word, I said "I'm not looking forward to it". Same reason why I prefer Raiders over Last Crusade.

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