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YoungMan 04/25/21 4:19:14 PM #1:	I get to stay home and get paid --- Sigless users need not reply. <cite>YoungMan posted [p:953218634] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>I get to stay home and get paid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 04/25/21 4:20:59 PM #2:	Is there a Confederate Veterans Day and a Confederate Independence Day or just memorial? --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:953218670] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Is there a Confederate Veterans Day and a Confederate Independence Day or just memorial? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMan 04/25/21 4:30:10 PM #3:	Probably changes slightly from state to state --- Sigless users need not reply. <cite>YoungMan posted [p:953218949] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Probably changes slightly from state to state </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 04/25/21 4:31:28 PM #4:	Yuck. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:953218994] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Yuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 04/25/21 4:33:31 PM #5:	Celebrating treason <cite>What_ posted [p:953219040] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Celebrating treason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMan 04/25/21 4:37:31 PM #6:	It's to commemorate all the southern homies who died fighting the north. --- Sigless users need not reply. <cite>YoungMan posted [p:953219170] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>It's to commemorate all the southern homies who died fighting the north. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManicPlumber77 04/25/21 4:39:40 PM #7:	YoungMan posted... It's to commemorate all the southern homies who died fighting the north. to defend slavery --- This is a sig. <cite>ManicPlumber77 posted [p:953219241] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>It's to commemorate all the southern homies who died fighting the north.</quote>to defend slavery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 04/25/21 4:42:18 PM #8:	I guess there can't be a Confederate Veterans Day anymore since they're all dead. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:953219314] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>I guess there can't be a Confederate Veterans Day anymore since they're all dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 04/25/21 4:42:23 PM #9:	And there are people who say Black History Month is unnecessary. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:953219320] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>And there are people who say Black History Month is unnecessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 04/25/21 4:44:21 PM #10:	ManicPlumber77 posted... to defend slavery That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:953219380] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>ManicPlumber77 posted... </cite> <quote>to defend slavery</quote>That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 04/25/21 4:45:52 PM #11:	BilalPowell posted... That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. Yeah....those poor Confederate civilians just loved black people and had no interest in maintaining the institution of slavery --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:953219426] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves.</quote> Yeah....those poor Confederate civilians just loved black people and had no interest in maintaining the institution of slavery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManicPlumber77 04/25/21 4:46:31 PM #12:	BilalPowell posted... That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. Following orders is an excuse racists throw around a lot. As if being a soldier automatically means that you become an emotionless robot with no conscience. --- This is a sig. <cite>ManicPlumber77 posted [p:953219446] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves.</quote>Following orders is an excuse racists throw around a lot. As if being a soldier automatically means that you become an emotionless robot with no conscience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 04/25/21 4:47:00 PM #13:	BilalPowell posted... That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. They sure didn't like black people being treated like people. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:953219462] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves.</quote> They sure didn't like black people being treated like people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 04/25/21 4:47:26 PM #14:	Sweet, "Remember when we kept black people as pets" day. --- Above us lay the burdens, Below us lay the truths. We're somewhere in the middle, and we're all discontent too. Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:953219472] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Sweet, "Remember when we kept black people as pets" day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 04/25/21 4:48:30 PM #15:	I heard they are going to make 1/6 a national holiday in Alabama. --- https://imgur.com/ca2qBa1 <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:953219501] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>I heard they are going to make 1/6 a national holiday in Alabama. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 04/25/21 4:49:46 PM #16:	ManicPlumber77 posted... to defend slavery The Civil War was not about slavery, it was about states rights ~~to practice slavery~~ --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:953219535] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>ManicPlumber77 posted... </cite> <quote>to defend slavery</quote> The Civil War was not about slavery, it was about states rights to practice slavery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMan 04/25/21 4:50:02 PM #17:	BeantownHero posted... Yeah....those poor Confederate civilians just loved black people and had no interest in maintaining the institution of slavery Actually, poor working whites and wealthy slave-owning whites did not get along. They often saw using slave labor as a cheaper alternative to hiring them and paying them a wage. The young men they sent to die had no vested interest in fighting to help keep rich whites in power. --- Sigless users need not reply. <cite>YoungMan posted [p:953219542] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BeantownHero posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah....those poor Confederate civilians just loved black people and had no interest in maintaining the institution of slavery </quote>Actually, poor working whites and wealthy slave-owning whites did not get along. They often saw using slave labor as a cheaper alternative to hiring them and paying them a wage. The young men they sent to die had no vested interest in fighting to help keep rich whites in power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManicPlumber77 04/25/21 4:50:45 PM #18:	Dakimakura posted... I heard they are going to make 1/6 a national holiday in Alabama. As well as "incest is wincest day", "burn your science books (though it's unlikely you own any) day", and "count your guns day" --- This is a sig. <cite>ManicPlumber77 posted [p:953219567] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite> <quote>I heard they are going to make 1/6 a national holiday in Alabama.</quote>As well as "incest is wincest day", "burn your science books (though it's unlikely you own any) day", and "count your guns day" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/21 4:51:03 PM #19:	BilalPowell posted... That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. This is largely a myth. The soldiers knew they were fighting or slavery and actively supported it. They also hated the North. This isn't 500 years ago, most of these soldiers had journals and wrote letters home/too newspapers. We have a good idea what their mindset was and they feared the economic impact of ending slavery as well as race riots/fighting from freed black people. This "They didn't know, they just got mislead by those dasdardly politcians!" is revisionist history to try to make people feel better about their ancestors. But it isn't reality. It's true that they didn't own slaves, but they were willing and often very eager to kill for slavery. YoungMan posted... Actually, poor working whites and wealthy slave-owning whites did not get along. They often saw using slave labor as a cheaper alternative to hiring them and paying them a wage. The young men they sent to die had no vested interest in fighting to help keep rich whites in power. This just simply is not true. In fact one of the major goals the confederates fought for wasn't just owning slaves but expanding slavery as a practice The "Young men sent to die" largely liked slavery, supported it and wanted it to grow. Anger at the idea of new workers working for lower wages was one of the reasons to not free the slaves in their eyes. Not a reason to oppose the instutiton You forget a lot of this shit was religious. These people believed God made them superior and it was their duty to enslave and teach the black man. It seems insane in 2021 but at the time they really did openly support and were willing to kill to allow rich dudes to own slaves. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:953219575] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>That's just what the politicians did. The soldiers were just doing their job to serve their "country." Vast majority of the fallen Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves.</quote>This is largely a myth. The soldiers knew they were fighting or slavery and actively supported it. They also hated the North. This isn't 500 years ago, most of these soldiers had journals and wrote letters home/too newspapers. We have a good idea what their mindset was and they feared the economic impact of ending slavery as well as race riots/fighting from freed black people. This "They didn't know, they just got mislead by those dasdardly politcians!" is revisionist history to try to make people feel better about their ancestors. But it isn't reality. It's true that they didn't own slaves, but they were willing and often very eager to kill for slavery. YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>Actually, poor working whites and wealthy slave-owning whites did not get along. They often saw using slave labor as a cheaper alternative to hiring them and paying them a wage. The young men they sent to die had no vested interest in fighting to help keep rich whites in power.</quote> This just simply is not true. In fact one of the major goals the confederates fought for wasn't just owning slaves but expanding slavery as a practice The "Young men sent to die" largely liked slavery, supported it and wanted it to grow. Anger at the idea of new workers working for lower wages was one of the reasons to not free the slaves in their eyes. Not a reason to oppose the instutiton You forget a lot of this shit was religious. These people believed God made them superior and it was their duty to enslave and teach the black man. It seems insane in 2021 but at the time they really did openly support and were willing to kill to allow rich dudes to own slaves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/25/21 4:51:48 PM #20:	ManicPlumber77 posted... Following orders is an excuse racists throw around a lot. As if being a soldier automatically means that you become an emotionless robot with no conscience. To be fair, the confederacy had conscription after 1862. That being said, fuck the confederacy, just because people had to fight for it whether they wanted to or not doesn't mean they should be honored with a state holiday. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:953219598] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>ManicPlumber77 posted... </cite> <quote>Following orders is an excuse racists throw around a lot. As if being a soldier automatically means that you become an emotionless robot with no conscience.</quote>To be fair, the confederacy had conscription after 1862. That being said, fuck the confederacy, just because people had to fight for it whether they wanted to or not doesn't mean they should be honored with a state holiday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManicPlumber77 04/25/21 4:52:14 PM #21:	PoundGarden posted... The Civil War was not about slavery, it was about states rights ~~to practice slavery~~ PoundGarden posted... The Civil War was about slavery, it was about right ~~to practice slavery~~ PoundGarden posted... The Civil War was about slavery, it was about ~~slavery~~ --- This is a sig. <cite>ManicPlumber77 posted [p:953219617] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>PoundGarden posted... </cite> <quote>The Civil War was not about slavery, it was about states rights to practice slavery</quote> PoundGarden posted... </cite> <quote>The Civil War was about slavery, it was about right to practice slavery</quote> PoundGarden posted... </cite> <quote>The Civil War was about slavery, it was about slavery</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 04/25/21 5:01:02 PM #22:	So should we throw eggs at Japanese WWII vets when Japan commemorates them because they were forced to fight against us? --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:953219856] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>So should we throw eggs at Japanese WWII vets when Japan commemorates them because they were forced to fight against us? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManicPlumber77 04/25/21 5:02:27 PM #23:	BilalPowell posted... So should we throw eggs at Japanese WWII vets because they were forced to fight against us? Did they fight to maintain the practice of treating people like livestock? --- This is a sig. <cite>ManicPlumber77 posted [p:953219899] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>So should we throw eggs at Japanese WWII vets because they were forced to fight against us?</quote>Did they fight to maintain the practice of treating people like livestock? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 04/25/21 5:02:49 PM #24:	BilalPowell posted... So should we throw eggs at Japanese WWII vets when Japan commemorates them because they were forced to fight against us? This post happened --- Above us lay the burdens, Below us lay the truths. We're somewhere in the middle, and we're all discontent too. Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:953219916] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>So should we throw eggs at Japanese WWII vets when Japan commemorates them because they were forced to fight against us?</quote>This post happened </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/21 5:06:40 PM #25:	BTW If anyone is interested in learning about the civil war, a good start off point is the comedic/irrelevant history buff Atun-Shei Films. I reccomend him He's an ex lost causer/civil war reinactor/New Orleans tour guide who makes a lot of videos talking about history and also the neoconfederate bullshit guys like Youngman and BilalPowel try to pull Although I do warn you, he does do the Nostalgia Critic thing of inserting unfunny skits into otherwise good videos: https://youtu.be/X6DiA_7AjcU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YeaoU7T46k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-pLzBtKs5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPsxMCQAUdQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3E2FdedPwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQTJgWkHAwI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZDxu0APt9g https://youtu.be/Lac-8tTuyhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yylf6xUSQos https://youtu.be/OYj9CSxlGSk https://youtu.be/s_zDHH7zKFI https://youtu.be/Lac-8tTuyhs --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:953220040] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>BTW If anyone is interested in learning about the civil war, a good start off point is the comedic/irrelevant history buff Atun-Shei Films. I reccomend him He's an ex lost causer/civil war reinactor/New Orleans tour guide who makes a lot of videos talking about history and also the neoconfederate bullshit guys like Youngman and BilalPowel try to pull Although I do warn you, he does do the Nostalgia Critic thing of inserting unfunny skits into otherwise good videos: https://youtu.be/X6DiA_7AjcU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YeaoU7T46k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-pLzBtKs5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPsxMCQAUdQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3E2FdedPwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQTJgWkHAwI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZDxu0APt9g https://youtu.be/Lac-8tTuyhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yylf6xUSQos https://youtu.be/OYj9CSxlGSk https://youtu.be/s_zDHH7zKFI https://youtu.be/Lac-8tTuyhs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 04/25/21 5:08:41 PM #26:	https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/why-non-slaveholding-southerners-fought It will be to the non-slaveholder, equally with the largest slaveholder, the obliteration of caste and the deprivation of important privileges, he cautioned. The color of the white man is now, in the South, a title of nobility in his relations as to the negro, he reminded his readers. In the Southern slaveholding States, where menial and degrading offices are turned over to be per formed exclusively by the Negro slave, the status and color of the black race becomes the badge of inferiority, and the poorest non-slaveholder may rejoice with the richest of his brethren of the white race, in the distinction of his color.He may be poor, it is true; but there is no point upon which he is so justly proud and sensitive as his privilege of caste; and there is nothing which he would resent with more fierce indignation than the attempt of the Abolitionist to emancipate the slaves and elevate the Negroes to an equality with himself and his family. -John Townsend, plantation owner and popular pamphleteer, Edisto Island, SC, 1860. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:953220095] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/why-non-slaveholding-southerners-fought It will be to the non-slaveholder, equally with the largest slaveholder, the obliteration of caste and the deprivation of important privileges, he cautioned. The color of the white man is now, in the South, a title of nobility in his relations as to the negro, he reminded his readers. In the Southern slaveholding States, where menial and degrading offices are turned over to be per formed exclusively by the Negro slave, the status and color of the black race becomes the badge of inferiority, and the poorest non-slaveholder may rejoice with the richest of his brethren of the white race, in the distinction of his color.He may be poor, it is true; but there is no point upon which he is so justly proud and sensitive as his privilege of caste; and there is nothing which he would resent with more fierce indignation than the attempt of the Abolitionist to emancipate the slaves and elevate the Negroes to an equality with himself and his family. -John Townsend, plantation owner and popular pamphleteer, Edisto Island, SC, 1860. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMan 04/25/21 5:12:05 PM #27:	brestugo posted... Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers. --- Sigless users need not reply. <cite>YoungMan posted [p:953220225] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite> Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/21 5:13:33 PM #28:	^ Worth adding that even today, go on facebook and twitter right now and you'll see people in debt with dead end mimimum wage jobs or who are umployed aggressively worshipping and defending billionaires who hate them, saying openly they should not be taxed and should be allowed to break laws. Just part of the human psyche of the populous seems to be conformity even to the nonsensical and that's always exploited. Ever heard "YOu can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink?" For humans it's "You can lead a human to water and he can look you right in the eye and say there's no water there despite standing right next to it. For no apparent reason or benefit." --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:953220287] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>^ Worth adding that even today, go on facebook and twitter right now and you'll see people in debt with dead end mimimum wage jobs or who are umployed aggressively worshipping and defending billionaires who hate them, saying openly they should not be taxed and should be allowed to break laws. Just part of the human psyche of the populous seems to be conformity even to the nonsensical and that's always exploited. Ever heard "YOu can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink?" For humans it's "You can lead a human to water and he can look you right in the eye and say there's no water there despite standing right next to it. For no apparent reason or benefit." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 04/25/21 5:14:25 PM #29:	YoungMan posted... Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers. Dude, your whole argument is shot. Close the thread. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:953220316] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers.</quote>Dude, your whole argument is shot. Close the thread. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 04/25/21 5:16:16 PM #30:	YoungMan posted... Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers. He was popular with the non-slave owning crowd btw. Slave owners didn't need any convincing. Crack a book once in a while. It may not be too late. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:953220391] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers.</quote>He was popular with the non-slave owning crowd btw. Slave owners didn't need any convincing. Crack a book once in a while. It may not be too late. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 04/25/21 5:19:07 PM #31:	YoungMan posted... Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers. The character of men fighting for generations of people who maintain racist foundations to this day. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:953220491] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>Literally a plantation owner. None of that is out of line with what someone who owned slaves at time thought. It in no way impacts the character of the men who this holiday remembers.</quote> The character of men fighting for generations of people who maintain racist foundations to this day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 04/25/21 5:59:45 PM #32:	UnfairRepresent posted... ^ Worth adding that even today, go on facebook and twitter right now and you'll see people in debt with dead end mimimum wage jobs or who are umployed aggressively worshipping and defending billionaires who hate them, saying openly they should not be taxed and should be allowed to break laws. They're clinging to the same sense of privilege that Townsend was appealing to when I quoted him in post 26. Alexander Stephens, Confederate Vice President used the protection of white privilege as a way to attract non-slave owners. I can post over a dozen speeches demonstrating that that was a deliberate strategy by the Confederacy to attract and keep non-slave owners. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:953221714] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>^ Worth adding that even today, go on facebook and twitter right now and you'll see people in debt with dead end mimimum wage jobs or who are umployed aggressively worshipping and defending billionaires who hate them, saying openly they should not be taxed and should be allowed to break laws. </quote> They're clinging to the same sense of privilege that Townsend was appealing to when I quoted him in post 26. Alexander Stephens, Confederate Vice President used the protection of white privilege as a way to attract non-slave owners. I can post over a dozen speeches demonstrating that that was a deliberate strategy by the Confederacy to attract and keep non-slave owners. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 04/25/21 6:04:42 PM #33:	I live in alabama, wasn't even aware if it. We'll definitely be at work --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:953221852] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>I live in alabama, wasn't even aware if it. We'll definitely be at work </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 04/25/21 6:06:41 PM #34:	YoungMan posted... It's to commemorate all the southern homies who died fighting the north. May they rest in piss --- Fithos lusec wecos vinosec she/her <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:953221901] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>It's to commemorate all the southern homies who died fighting the north.</quote>May they rest in piss </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 04/25/21 6:12:05 PM #35:	YoungMan posted... Probably changes slightly from state to state I'm glad I don't live in a state that celebrates traitors to this country. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:953222053] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted...</cite> <quote>Probably changes slightly from state to state </quote> I'm glad I don't live in a state that celebrates traitors to this country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 04/25/21 6:13:32 PM #36:	CouldBeAnAlt posted... May they rest in piss "Hundreds of thousands of mostly poor teenagers would probably didn't even really understand what or why they were fighting for can eat shit" --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:953222097] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>CouldBeAnAlt posted... </cite> <quote>May they rest in piss</quote> "Hundreds of thousands of mostly poor teenagers would probably didn't even really understand what or why they were fighting for can eat shit" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 04/25/21 6:17:53 PM #37:	Solid Snake07 posted... "Hundreds of thousands of mostly poor teenagers would probably didn't even really understand what or why they were fighting for can eat shit" They knew what they were fighting for and yes they can --- Fithos lusec wecos vinosec she/her <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:953222209] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>"Hundreds of thousands of mostly poor teenagers would probably didn't even really understand what or why they were fighting for can eat shit"</quote>They knew what they were fighting for and yes they can </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 04/25/21 6:20:23 PM #38:	CouldBeAnAlt posted... They knew what they were fighting for and yes they can "I know what it was like to be a poor rural person 150 years ago" Lol, this fucking guy --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:953222255] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>CouldBeAnAlt posted... </cite> <quote>They knew what they were fighting for and yes they can</quote> "I know what it was like to be a poor rural person 150 years ago" Lol, this fucking guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMan 04/25/21 6:23:14 PM #39:	brestugo posted... He was popular with the non-slave owning crowd btw. Slave owners didn't need any convincing. Crack a book once in a while. It may not be too late. Lmao untrue. Are you sure you're not just tilted because I'm gonna be kicking back tomorrow and getting paid for it? --- Sigless users need not reply. <cite>YoungMan posted [p:953222324] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite> <quote>He was popular with the non-slave owning crowd btw. Slave owners didn't need any convincing. Crack a book once in a while. It may not be too late.</quote>Lmao untrue. Are you sure you're not just tilted because I'm gonna be kicking back tomorrow and getting paid for it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 04/25/21 6:25:52 PM #40:	The idea that confederate soliders didn't know that they were fighting for slavery is very funny. --- The one and the only Dr. Ms. FlameTurtle Esq., First of Her Name She/Her <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:953222392] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>The idea that confederate soliders didn't know that they were fighting for slavery is very funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 04/25/21 6:29:46 PM #41:	CEmen don't understand history or empathy? I am shocked. Purely and utterly shocked. --- https://imgur.com/AUXKMK4 <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:953222461] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>CEmen don't understand history or empathy? I am shocked. Purely and utterly shocked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 04/25/21 6:35:01 PM #42:	FlameTurtle posted... The idea that confederate soliders didn't know that they were fighting for slavery is very funny. It holds up. People today think it wasn't about slavery, and we have access to plenty of information sources. Back then? They played kick the can. It doesn't excuse them, but it puts them closer to stupid than evil. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:953222600] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>The idea that confederate soliders didn't know that they were fighting for slavery is very funny.</quote> It holds up. People today think it wasn't about slavery, and we have access to plenty of information sources. Back then? They played kick the can. It doesn't excuse them, but it puts them closer to stupid than evil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 04/25/21 6:37:04 PM #43:	FlameTurtle posted... The idea that confederate soliders didn't know that they were fighting for slavery is very funny. I would imagine a poor rural farmer in Mississippi in 1860 barely knew what was going on between their dick and their asshole, much less the nuance of national politics --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:953222646] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>The idea that confederate soliders didn't know that they were fighting for slavery is very funny.</quote> I would imagine a poor rural farmer in Mississippi in 1860 barely knew what was going on between their dick and their asshole, much less the nuance of national politics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/21 6:38:10 PM #44:	Solid Snake07 posted... "I know what it was like to be a poor rural person 150 years ago" Lol, this fucking guy Dude. We know because they told us... 150 years isn't a long time, These soldiers were open about their views. As were people around them at the time. They wrote letters/diaries/articles supported causes. They wanted to secede, they supported slavery, they did not see black people as equals and thought it was God's will that they enslaved them, they were worried about a post slavery southern economy, they actively wanted to expand the practice. You're talking down to the guy but these aren't really opinions. The Southern soldiers knew what they were fighting for and said so. And continued to say so after the war with decades of racial predjudice and bullshit governance. The idea that your great grandfather fought, killed and possibly died in support of slavery is a bitter pill to swallow, but it's true. You're trying to push 21st century attitudes and rationale on them, you can't do that. If you met these soldiers today their views would horrify you. That's what was normal back then --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:953222694] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>"I know what it was like to be a poor rural person 150 years ago" Lol, this fucking guy</quote>Dude. We know because they told us... 150 years isn't a long time, These soldiers were open about their views. As were people around them at the time. They wrote letters/diaries/articles supported causes. They wanted to secede, they supported slavery, they did not see black people as equals and thought it was God's will that they enslaved them, they were worried about a post slavery southern economy, they actively wanted to expand the practice. You're talking down to the guy but these aren't really opinions. The Southern soldiers knew what they were fighting for and said so. And continued to say so after the war with decades of racial predjudice and bullshit governance. The idea that your great grandfather fought, killed and possibly died in support of slavery is a bitter pill to swallow, but it's true. You're trying to push 21st century attitudes and rationale on them, you can't do that. If you met these soldiers today their views would horrify you. That's what was normal back then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 04/25/21 6:41:24 PM #45:	Solid Snake07 posted... I would imagine a poor rural farmer in Mississippi in 1860 barely knew what was going on between their dick and their asshole, much less the nuance of national politics Yeah I bet they didn't even know what slavery was back then. lmao --- The one and the only Dr. Ms. FlameTurtle Esq., First of Her Name She/Her <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:953222779] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I would imagine a poor rural farmer in Mississippi in 1860 barely knew what was going on between their dick and their asshole, much less the nuance of national politics</quote>Yeah I bet they didn't even know what slavery was back then. lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/21 6:44:04 PM #46:	Guide posted... It holds up. People today think it wasn't about slavery, and we have access to plenty of information sources. Back then? They played kick the can. It doesn't excuse them, but it puts them closer to stupid than evil. Solid Snake07 posted... I would imagine a poor rural farmer in Mississippi in 1860 barely knew what was going on between their dick and their asshole, much less the nuance of national politics You'd both be very very very wrong A farmer in the south would have a gigantic vested interest in whether or not slavery was ended. Again you seem to be conflating these guys with like biblical figures. This wasn't 2000 years ago. It wasn't even 200 years ago. These people weren't Dumb Dumbs. They were aware of politics. especially things that affected their livelihood and their religion. The South was deeply pro seceding. Even the poor. Far more than the North realized until years into the war. It's why the North was so shit at the start, they honestly thought the Southern Poor would rise up and demand peace rather than kill their Northern Brothers to defend slavery Instead the Southerners were like "Oh boy I get to kill those Yankee horsetheives" and did so with gusto. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:953222857] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>It holds up. People today think it wasn't about slavery, and we have access to plenty of information sources. Back then? They played kick the can. It doesn't excuse them, but it puts them closer to stupid than evil.</quote> Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I would imagine a poor rural farmer in Mississippi in 1860 barely knew what was going on between their dick and their asshole, much less the nuance of national politics</quote>You'd both be very very very wrong A farmer in the south would have a gigantic vested interest in whether or not slavery was ended. Again you seem to be conflating these guys with like biblical figures. This wasn't 2000 years ago. It wasn't even 200 years ago. These people weren't Dumb Dumbs. They were aware of politics. especially things that affected their livelihood and their religion. The South was deeply pro seceding. Even the poor. Far more than the North realized until years into the war. It's why the North was so shit at the start, they honestly thought the Southern Poor would rise up and demand peace rather than kill their Northern Brothers to defend slavery Instead the Southerners were like "Oh boy I get to kill those Yankee horsetheives" and did so with gusto. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 04/25/21 6:44:07 PM #47:	UnfairRepresent posted... You're trying to push 21st century attitudes and rationale on them, you can't do that. If you met these soldiers today their views would horrify you. That's what was normal back then Of course it would. They were mostly a product of their time and place like most anyone else. I don't celebrate them, but I'm slow to condemn them by my modern morality with well over a century of more perspective. Some of my family is rooted in the american south. If I were born 130 years earlier I could have easily been one if them. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:953222859] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>You're trying to push 21st century attitudes and rationale on them, you can't do that. If you met these soldiers today their views would horrify you. That's what was normal back then</quote> Of course it would. They were mostly a product of their time and place like most anyone else. I don't celebrate them, but I'm slow to condemn them by my modern morality with well over a century of more perspective. Some of my family is rooted in the american south. If I were born 130 years earlier I could have easily been one if them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 04/25/21 6:47:09 PM #48:	YoungMan posted... Lmao untrue. Are you sure you're not just tilted because I'm gonna be kicking back tomorrow and getting paid for it? 100% true. The books and speeches are out there. They said that if you aren't supporting the Confederacy as a slave owner, support it for white privilege. You were provided a quote and deflected. As for tomorrow, if you flopped and floundered twice as hard as you have in this thread, I still wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I'm just grateful for the opportunity to point out the wrong side of history. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:953222953] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>YoungMan posted... </cite> <quote>Lmao untrue. Are you sure you're not just tilted because I'm gonna be kicking back tomorrow and getting paid for it?</quote>100% true. The books and speeches are out there. They said that if you aren't supporting the Confederacy as a slave owner, support it for white privilege. You were provided a quote and deflected. As for tomorrow, if you flopped and floundered twice as hard as you have in this thread, I still wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I'm just grateful for the opportunity to point out the wrong side of history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/25/21 6:49:04 PM #50:	Solid Snake07 posted... Of course it would. They were mostly a product of their time and place like most anyone else. I don't celebrate them, but I'm slow to condemn them by my modern morality with well over a century of more perspective. Some of my family is rooted in the american south. If I were born 130 years earlier I could have easily been one if them. That's fine but you can't lie about it either. Pushing that the people of the South didn't know about slavery and didn't support it and/or that we have no way of knowing what they thought, simply is not true. You're pretty much dishonoring your own ancestors by doing that. Remember them for who they were, deeply flawed, complex people who passionately believed things that we would find grotesque. Including defending and wanting to expand slavery and the willingless to massacre their own people in order to do so. Hell arguing the lie of "they were all complete idiots who didn't know a damn thing and were trickedd by da no good gubbermut!" is arguably more insulting to their memories than accepting the horrible things they did do. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:953223011] in Tomorrow i... [t:79424503]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote> Of course it would. They were mostly a product of their time and place like most anyone else. I don't celebrate them, but I'm slow to condemn them by my modern morality with well over a century of more perspective. Some of my family is rooted in the american south. If I were born 130 years earlier I could have easily been one if them.</quote>That's fine but you can't lie about it either. Pushing that the people of the South didn't know about slavery and didn't support it and/or that we have no way of knowing what they thought, simply is not true. You're pretty much dishonoring your own ancestors by doing that. Remember them for who they were, deeply flawed, complex people who passionately believed things that we would find grotesque. Including defending and wanting to expand slavery and the willingless to massacre their own people in order to do so. Hell arguing the lie of "they were all complete idiots who didn't know a damn thing and were trickedd by da no good gubbermut!" is arguably more insulting to their memories than accepting the horrible things they did do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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