Current Events > The House has passed a bill to make Washington DC the 51st state.

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Tired-Insomniac
04/22/21 12:45:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1385264085164560385

How many Senate votes does this need?


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Rathinor
04/22/21 12:46:36 PM
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Pretty sure this can be filibustered. So it needs the 60 to break cloture

In other words, not happening
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NatsuSama
04/22/21 12:47:07 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
How many Senate votes does this need?
60 to beat the filibuster iirc.

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UberEats
04/22/21 12:48:25 PM
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Political theater. Unlikely possibility it'll pass.
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Doom_Art
04/22/21 12:48:37 PM
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Rathinor posted...
So it needs the 60 to break cloture
For now.

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Garioshi
04/22/21 12:49:05 PM
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Good

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Christian RULES
04/22/21 12:49:11 PM
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51st state? Area 51 confirmed real zomg!!

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IdiotMachine
04/22/21 12:49:18 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1385264085164560385

How many Senate votes does this need?
60.

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KiwiTerraRizing
04/22/21 12:49:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
For now.


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hockeybub89
04/22/21 12:49:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 12:51:25 PM
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Okay, but DC needs to reclaim the lost southwest side of the square, that Virginia took during the civil war.


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LostForest
04/22/21 12:51:33 PM
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Good. Them and Puerto Rico both deserve it.

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Materus
04/22/21 12:51:41 PM
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Should be Puerto Rico instead.

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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 12:52:02 PM
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Materus posted...
Should be Puerto Rico instead.
Should be Alberta instead.
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Doom_Art
04/22/21 12:52:03 PM
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Materus posted...
Should be Puerto Rico instead.
Why not both?

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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 12:52:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Why not both?
Did we forget that Guam exists?
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Materus
04/22/21 12:54:04 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Why not both?

tbh its just a personal thing where I believe the capital should be like a neutral ground of sorts. The people living there should be given political representation either through Virginia or Maryland.


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Tyranthraxus
04/22/21 12:54:33 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Did we forget that Guam exists?
Guam doesn't want to be a state IIRC

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StarDestroyer
04/22/21 12:55:04 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Should be Alberta instead.

Fuck no
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LostForest
04/22/21 12:55:31 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Did we forget that Guam exists?

So Guam, DC, Puerto Rico, Samoa, can all join in. That'll be 54. Then make Long Island 55.

Everybody wins.

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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 12:55:42 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Guam doesn't want to be a state IIRC
Ah, that's the other side of that, yes. States aren't really allowed to be established involuntarily, give or take Hawaii.
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Trelve
04/22/21 12:57:06 PM
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Not an American so maybe a stupid question: what advantages does Washington DC get by being a state and what is it now if it's not one?
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Crazyman93
04/22/21 12:57:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Ah, that's the other side of that, yes. States aren't really allowed to be established involuntarily, give or take Hawaii.
And Puerto Rico can't decide if it wants to be one or not. Their politics are devoted to and roughly evenly split on the issue.

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CruelBuffalo
04/22/21 12:58:26 PM
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Trelve posted...
Not an American so maybe a stupid question: what advantages does Washington DC get by being a state and what is it now if it's not one?

2 senators and congressional representatives. Currently they have only non-voting members
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UnfairRepresent
04/22/21 12:58:33 PM
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Trelve posted...
Not an American so maybe a stupid question: what advantages does Washington DC get by being a state and what is it now if it's not one?
The people who live there have no representation in government, which is a big deal for America

The "con" is that it will be overwhelmingly democrat and add more senate seats/electoral votes for Dems. So Republicans oppose it aggressively.

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Crazyman93
04/22/21 12:58:43 PM
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Trelve posted...
Not an American so maybe a stupid question: what advantages does Washington DC get by being a state and what is it now if it's not one?
The Democrats get two more senators and a house seat is really the only reason this got proposed. The people dumb enough to live in the District finally get representation, and DC gets even more federal money.

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CruelBuffalo
04/22/21 12:58:48 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...

And Puerto Rico can't decide if it wants to be one or not. Their politics are devoted to and roughly evenly split on the issue.

Except statehood has won the vote twice in a row
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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 1:00:14 PM
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Trelve posted...
Not an American so maybe a stupid question: what advantages does Washington DC get by being a state and what is it now if it's not one?
It's all political chess to create senate seats, like the continuous plan to break up Texas and California.
Similarly, there's rumblings about merging Wyoming with Idaho and Montana, to remove four senators.
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Doom_Art
04/22/21 1:00:17 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Did we forget that Guam exists?
Sure, add that in too.

Materus posted...
The people living there should be given political representation either through Virginia or Maryland.
Virginia and Maryland explicitly have said they don't want DC to integrate into their states though.


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Doom_Art
04/22/21 1:00:54 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
merging Wyoming with Idaho and Montana, to remove four senators.
Big fan of this idea.

Those states are relatively meaningless anyway, may as well roll em all up.

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Hop103
04/22/21 1:01:06 PM
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DC shouldn't be a state, there's no reason it should be, if anything Puerto Rico needs it.
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TheGoldenEel
04/22/21 1:01:08 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
The people dumb enough to live in the District
Bad take

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CruelBuffalo
04/22/21 1:01:12 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Similarly, there's rumblings about merging Wyoming with Idaho and Montana, to remove four senators.


Tell me one elected official pushing this. Fanfiction on Reddit isnt the same as rumblings lol
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ViewtifulGrave
04/22/21 1:01:23 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
51st state? Area 51 confirmed real zomg!!
Area 51 is already a real place.

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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 1:01:44 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Tell me one elected official pushing this. Fanfiction on Reddit isnt the same as rumblings lol
That's fair.
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Doom_Art
04/22/21 1:01:59 PM
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Hop103 posted...
there's no reason it should be
Explain why not?

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AtelierRyza3462
04/22/21 1:02:48 PM
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Why are there so few white people living in our nation's capitol?

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04/22/21 1:04:21 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Except statehood has won the vote twice in a row

Kinda sorta. Statehood won a vote a few years back, but the opposing political tactic was to say "not voting is a vote". So while statehood won by votes, it was only votes from like 20% of the population, which essentially invalidated the whole thing.

On the bright side, the educated and bougie populations are significantly more for statehood.

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ScazarMeltex
04/22/21 1:05:09 PM
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Doesn't matter, gonna die in the Senate.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
04/22/21 1:07:47 PM
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AtelierRyza3462 posted...
Why are there so few white people living in our nation's capitol?

Because it's a city and black people tend to make up a disproportional amount of people who live in a city. If you want to go deeper on "why" for that there's books and papers and websites dedicated to that kind of stuff.

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Garioshi
04/22/21 1:09:54 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Okay, but DC needs to reclaim the lost southwest side of the square, that Virginia took during the civil war.

holy fuck literally nobody cares

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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 1:10:56 PM
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Garioshi posted...
holy fuck literally nobody cares
dude, you alright?
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UnholyMudcrab
04/22/21 1:11:46 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
Since there's a Democratic majority in the senate, doesn't this stand a good chance of passing?

Not a filibuster-proof majority
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HODL
04/22/21 1:12:11 PM
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Dead on arrival.
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SaltyDogGum
04/22/21 1:12:19 PM
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But why?

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Blightzkrieg
04/22/21 1:13:15 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...
The people dumb enough to live in the District finally get representation
when you're so fucking biased you frame a positive as a negative lol

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Akagami_Shanks
04/22/21 1:13:35 PM
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its not going to past the senate, dont bother

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Questionmarktarius
04/22/21 1:14:16 PM
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SaltyDogGum posted...
But why?
Political chess.
It's an easy +2 democrat senators. Also the representative gets an actual vote, and probably two or three more representatives, who are almost certain to be all democrats as well.
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