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Taharqa_
04/18/21 11:12:01 AM
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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-virginia-cop-convictions-overturned-racist-20210418-pbw32uzj5bhq7b23xobz3aj6eu-story.html

More than 400 convictions in Virginia could be overturned after prosecutors found evidence the arresting cop was racist.
Jonathan Freitag, 25, is accused of making up reasons to pull people over and planting drugs in their vehicles in Fairfax County, the Washington Post reported.

Freitag has not been criminally charged, though he is being investigated, according to the Post. The allegations were revealed Friday as attorneys worked to free an ex-firefighter sentenced to three years in prison based on a Freitag traffic stop.
Elon Wilson, a former Washington, D.C., firefighter, is the only person still locked up based on Freitags suspected misconduct, the Associated Press reported. Wilsons defense attorneys and county prosecutors both argued for his release Friday.

Freitag stopped Wilson, a 23-year-old Black man, on April 3, 2018, and said he swerved over the center yellow line, according to the Post. Freitag then searched Wilsons car and allegedly found drugs and a gun.

Facing a maximum of 10 years in prison, Wilson took a plea deal in 2019, in which he maintained his innocence but admitted hed probably be convicted given the evidence, local radio station WTOP reported. The deal sent Wilson to prison for three years, and he lost his job.
A passenger under age 18 claimed the drugs and gun, the Post reported. That persons case was later dropped.

Surveillance video of the arrest showed Wilson did nothing illegal, attorneys on both sides told the Post. After multiple, unrelated complaints, internal investigators at the Fairfax County Police Department began reviewing Freitags traffic stops.
During that investigation, Freitag admitted that the stops were a pretext for searching cars for guns and drugs, according to the Post. Prosecuting attorney Steve Descano said Freitags stops showed potentially racially biased motive and racially biased impact.

They looked at 1,400 stops. When youre looking at the stops, a very clear pattern emerged, read a court filing from Descano, the Fairfax County Commonwealths Attorney.

The officer involved has a long history of improper and unjust stops with a racially disparate impact, Descano told WTOP.
Descano said Freitag admitted to a third party that he was targeting Black people in the stops, the Post reported. Freitag has denied the allegations of racism.

Prosecutors said Freitag was involved in 932 cases during his three years as a Fairfax cop, according to the Post. Most were low level cases, but seven were felonies. In addition to the estimated 400 convictions, 21 pending cases were tossed.
Freitag resigned from the Fairfax County Police Department in May 2020. He was hired in August 2020 by the Brevard County Sheriffs Office in Florida, but canned two weeks ago, according to the Post. The two law enforcement agencies have sparred over who was to blame for his hiring in Florida given his record in the D.C. suburbs.

And this cop is 25 years old and was on the force for just three years. He's not some grizzled vet with pull and influence, he was basically a newbie and got away with all of this. Imagine if he kept this going for 10, 20+ years. It's not just a few bad apples with policing, the entire root system of the tree is messed up and it extends to the rest of the justice system, easily perpetuated and frequently ignored. This is just one that has been brought to light after he has done this much damage in such a short time, how many others are still hiding in the dark that have been at it for years?

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ghettoraider81
04/18/21 11:14:39 AM
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Shit like this will absolutely continue as long as it is protected and as long as we have a for profit prison system:

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COVxy
04/18/21 11:17:50 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
got away with all of this

Did he?

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Taharqa_
04/18/21 11:18:59 AM
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COVxy posted...
Did he?

Took three years to flush him out, too long IMO

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Samurontai
04/18/21 11:19:30 AM
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Heartomaton
04/18/21 11:25:25 AM
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Make racism as a cop a federal offense.

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Taharqa_
04/18/21 11:31:04 AM
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Samurontai posted...
Better question is, what is your solution, TC?

End qualified immunity
Use special prosecutors to investigate police misconduct
Require identification and intervention for officers with repeated complaints and disciplinary incidents
Decertification after a history of serious misconduct
End pretextual stops and stop and frisk tactics
National database on use of force and deadly incidents
National database on officers that were fired for misconduct so they won't simply go over to the next county or state
Require implicit bias training

For starters


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Heartomaton
04/18/21 11:33:53 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
End qualified immunity
Use special prosecutors to investigate police misconduct
Require identification and intervention for officers with repeated complaints and disciplinary incidents
Decertification after a history of serious misconduct
End pretextual stops and stop and frisk tactics
National database on use of force and deadly incidents
National database on officers that were fired for misconduct so they won't simply go over to the next county or state
Require implicit bias training

For starters

Also this.

Heartomaton 2028.

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Samurontai
04/18/21 11:34:18 AM
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Taharqa_ posted...
End qualified immunity
Use special prosecutors to investigate police misconduct
Require identification and intervention for officers with repeated complaints and disciplinary incidents
Decertification after a history of serious misconduct
End pretextual stops and stop and frisk tactics
National database on use of force and deadly incidents
National database on officers that were fired for misconduct so they won't simply go over to the next county or state
Require implicit bias training

For starters

Damn, not what I was expecting lol. All of that seems like a mega plus to me my guy, and I think most people would agree with you on just about all of that stuff

Im a little iffy on ending qualifier immunity, rather than reforming that as well, but thats an unpopular opinion. Agree on everything else though

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cjsdowg
04/18/21 11:42:06 AM
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He should go to jail for kidnapping because that is what he did .

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averagejoel
04/18/21 11:52:57 AM
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the only solution is abolition

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SSJPurple
04/18/21 12:01:11 PM
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Longer training, harder to get in/pass.

Lawyers have to go to school for 6-8 years to practice the law yet Police with maybe 1 year training tips are qualified to enforce it?

Doesn't add up. The police should be the best of the best not bottom of the barrel.
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SSJPurple
04/18/21 12:03:57 PM
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And to be clear this reform that would require a higher qualified worker would come with better pay
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Taharqa_
04/18/21 12:09:17 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Longer training, harder to get in/pass.

Lawyers have to go to school for 6-8 years to practice the law yet Police with maybe 1 year training tips are qualified to enforce it?

Doesn't add up. The police should be the best of the best not bottom of the barrel.

It takes about three to four months for Police Academy training in my area, then they get paired with an FTO when they get on duty. What if the FTO is a dirty cop though? It take over twice as long to be a licensed barber than it does to be a cop.

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/18/21 12:10:51 PM
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Its easy, you ask during the interview if they're racist and willing to commit felonies to keep our streets white and strong

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SSJPurple
04/18/21 12:13:55 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
It takes about three to four months for Police Academy training in my area, then they get paired with an FTO when they get on duty. What if the FTO is a dirty cop though? It take over twice as long to be a licensed barber than it does to be a cop.

Thats a huge part of the problem. Making the qualifications stricter and require a much longer training period should help weed out some of the scum.
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Samurontai
04/18/21 12:14:59 PM
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Dont some countries require years of training to become a cop? Like its equivalent almost to going to a university

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