Current Events > Would you support an extra tax to pay for surgery for trans ppl?

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For those who wanted to change their bodies.

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Nope
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https://youtu.be/NpVg-hA349I

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Absolutely. The math works out to about an extra 50 bucks over a lifetime.

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You lost me at extra tax. I don't care it it's a Blind Orphan Puppy tax, I'm not fucking around.

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I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

Medussa posted...

Absolutely. The math works out to about an extra 50 bucks over a lifetime.

If even that much. And the rates would actually go down over time as more get to start puberty blockers and hormones in their youth, plus once they get surgeries they won't need them again.

If we can cover boner pills as a medically acceptable thing for insurance, we have no excuse to not help trans people. Though really, we should drop insurance outright and cover everything through raised tax rates that in turn reduce how much everyone spends on personal medical insurance and bills and whatever isn't normally covered, etc.

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KlownArt posted...

I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

This, why stop at just providing for trans people? I want them and everyone else to get the medical procedures they need and would gladly pay additional taxes for it.

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Sure, although I think we already have something like that in the UK, but I'm not sure how consistent it is.

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Why can they mot pay for this themselves ?, why should other people be paying for this ??

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KlownArt posted...

I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Why can they mot pay for this themselves ?, why should other people be paying for this ??

If you look at the trans issue as a dysmorphia issue, with a high risk outcome if untreated, and the reassignment as the medical treatment for that, then what we're really asking here is "do you support universal healthcare".

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gunplagirl posted...

Though really, we should drop insurance outright and cover everything through raised tax rates that in turn reduce how much everyone spends on personal medical insurance and bills and whatever isn't normally covered, etc.

Agreed 10000% It would be nice for the US to catch up with the rest of the developed world on something as basic as health care.

I would much rather put a red hot pin down my urethra than pay that tax.

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pinky0926 posted...

If you look at the trans issue as a dysmorphia issue, with a high risk outcome if untreated, and the reassignment as the medical treatment for that, then what we're really asking here is "do you support universal healthcare".

It's not a dysmorphia issue, at all.

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pinky0926 posted...

If you look at the trans issue as a dysmorphia issue, with a high risk outcome if untreated, and the reassignment as the medical treatment for that, then what we're really asking here is "do you support universal healthcare".

Then the answer to that is no I do not support universal health care, and I have never supported it.

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Medussa posted...

It's not a dysmorphia issue, at all.

They cery much can go hand in hand, dysphoria and dysmorphia.

pfh1001 posted...

Agreed 10000% It would be nice for the US to catch up with the rest of the developed world on something as basic as health care.

My favorite part of the Bible was when Jesus refused to cure the sick because of their pre existing conditions and inability to pay 4 times the average annual income simply to have a professional assist women the during birthing process.

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This will probably come as a shock to the thin-skinned haters here, but I would support it.

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gunplagirl posted...

They very much can go hand in hand, dysphoria and dysmorphia

Dysmorphia is about imagined or exaggerated flaws. Ours are neither of those things. A trans person can also have dysmorphia, but it would be coincidental, not causal.

I admit, I could be wrong here. But I would be surprised if the trans population has dysmorphia at a higher rate than the population at large.

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I'm.in the UK so our taxes already go to healthcare and SRS is most definitely health care for those with dysphoria.

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Medussa posted...

It's not a dysmorphia issue, at all.

Ok, it's a medical issue with a prescribed treatment.

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pinky0926 posted...

Ok, it's a medical issue with a prescribed treatment.

*thumbs up*

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All medical services should be paid for with tax money.

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If i didn't have a mortgage and 2 kids and still lived with parents not worrying about any real bills then sure why not? But as of right now, fuck no lmao

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This is not how tax work. And for some reason some form of fuckery is going down in the US where it IS, then it's clearly aimed at othering an already marginalised group in order to frame it so that they become an entire Nation's burden.

But that would be un-American, right?

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You know what? Fuck it. Sure. Call it a tax for all the shit they have to go through.

There aren't that many trans people and if everybody gave a dollar a month that's like $300 million a month.

Edit: I also support universal health care.

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cosmetic surgery should be paid out of people's own pockets if they want to get it, with the exception of like severe skin disfiguration from an accident or something

as long as the person in question contributes to society, society should have their back in medical emergencies and long-term illness, but slapping a pair of tits on a dude that identifies as a woman is ultimately treatment for neither and most definitely not the former, even though trans activists often attempt to portray it as such

Even for night CE, there's not been as many transphobic posts as I had expected. Only two explicitly stated ones so far.

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Kaiganeer posted...

cosmetic surgery should be paid out of people's own pockets if they want to get it, with the exception of like severe skin disfiguration from an accident or something

as long as the person in question contributes to society, society should have their back in medical emergencies and long-term illness, but slapping a pair of tits on a dude that identifies as a woman is ultimately treatment for neither and most definitely not the former, even though trans activists often attempt to portray it as such

Sex reassignment is viewed as a medical procedure that factually, evidently reduces suicide rates and other mental illness problems among trans people, it's not like getting a set of lip fillers because you want to be pretty.

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i'd vote no but what i really mean is fuck no

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no

elective surgery shouldn't be given for free.

and if it should, then it should cover everything, from boob jobs to fixing crooked teeth or reducing nose size, etc.
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Only if there would be another tax for trans people to pay for surgeries for me. :v

For just $0.40 a year, you too could prevent multiple suicides
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No. But this?
KlownArt posted...

I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

And that includes trans surgery.

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gunplagirl posted...

If we can cover boner pills as a medically acceptable thing for insurance, we have no excuse to not help trans people. Though really, we should drop insurance outright and cover everything through raised tax rates that in turn reduce how much everyone spends on personal medical insurance and bills and whatever isn't normally covered, etc.

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Hell nah.

Teneritas posted...

Only if there would be another tax for trans people to pay for surgeries for me. :v

Or this. Make surgery free for everybody including migrants.

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Sure why not, too lazy to do any math but wouldn't it raise taxes by like literal cents per year? Lol

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KlownArt posted...

I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

This

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inTaCtfuL posted...

Sure why not, too lazy to do any math but wouldn't it raise taxes by like literal cents per year? Lol

This pretty much. There aren't hundreds of millions of people wanting it. If a couple pennies a year goes to making the quality of some folks lives dramatically better, then I'm fine with it. Much larger portions of my taxes go towards the opposite.

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MrWingnut posted...

Nope

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gunplagirl posted...

My favorite part of the Bible was when Jesus refused to cure the sick because of their pre existing conditions and inability to pay 4 times the average annual income simply to have a professional assist women the during birthing process.

I'm stealing this.

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NZ needs to get its "normal" healthcare in order before we even start worrying about that. Y'all know how some places healthcare systems have been pushed to the brink of collapse by covid? Ours gets like that every regular flu season.

To be clear, not saying "I'm against it", just that it's lower priority than literally saving lives.

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KlownArt posted...

I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

this. fix the overall problem instead of addressing an issue that affects a very small fraction of the population

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KlownArt posted...

I would support an extra tax that paid for all medical services people required.

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I'd go further, everyone should have access to cosmetic procedures.

I don't know enough about all this, but if it's put like this, then nope. Either everyone benefits, or nobody.

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