Current Events > Joss Whedon threatened Gal Gadots career

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https://www.indiewire.com/2021/04/joss-whedon-gal-gadot-career-justice-league-1234628231/

didnt see a topic on this. Ray Fisher (Cyborg in JL) got fired over speaking out against Whedon iirc

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acting is probably a bigger threat to her career tbqh

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We finally get some details about what made Ray Fisher so angry? It was Johns wanting him to say "Boo yah"? Does he know nothing about the Teen Titans?

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What could he do to her?
She is A list now. She is more important than him.

One source also told the outlet that Gadot had issues about her character being more aggressive than her character in Wonder Woman. She wanted to make the character flow from one movie to the next.

Snyder Cut was literally the most aggressive version

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He told her hes the writer and shes going to shut up and say the lines and he can make her look incredibly stupid in this movie.'

Oh wow. He should never be allowed to direct again.

Literally tanking his own movie on purpose to get back at one actor.
No wonder his cut sucked so bad.

CM_Ponch posted...

One source also told the outlet that Gadot had issues about her character being more aggressive than her character in Wonder Woman. She wanted to make the character flow from one movie to the next.

Snyder Cut was literally the most aggressive version

Snyder Cut and WW84 also completely contradict each other in terms of whether WW stayed hidden until BvS or whether she's been an active hero for decades. And no, "she destroyed the security cameras" isn't a good enough cover. Her character hasn't "flowed" from any movie to any other movie thus far.

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> calls Jurassic World sexist because the female lead trades business for love

> threatens to fire and/or sabotage female lead in Justice League because she disagrees with a character change
>hires a body double for a compromising position gag she's not comfortable with

the picture that is emerging is clear

Whedon is a psychopath and an anti-Semite and he purposely tried to tank Snyder and Gadot because he hates Jews

that's why Snyder's Cut was so completely different and amazing vs the garabge Whedon put out

edit: Whedon also hates black people and gay/bi people - that's why he completely stunted Cyborg and Flash's backstories in the theatrical cut

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To be fair, Gal Gadot isn't much of an actress.

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Remember that Joss Whedon was originally hired to do re-writes because of corporate meddling. They bumped him up to director after Zack Snyder left production. Whedon wasn't out for blood or trying to make anyone look like a fool. I believe the original crew was upset at the rewrites/reshoots and Whedon was just trying to do what he was hired for in this weird situation. This understandably caused friction between Captain whedon and the old Snyder crew

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

Remember that Joss Whedon was originally hired to do re-writes because of corporate meddling. They bumped him up to director after Zack Snyder left production. Whedon wasn't out for blood or trying to make anyone look like a fool. I believe the original crew was upset at the rewrites/reshoots and Whedon was just trying to do what he was hired for in this weird situation.

its crazy how so many people think whedon's changes were based off personal vendetta or being vindictive

you guys realize snyder's cut was FOUR HOURS LONG right? there's no way that can be a theatrical release. it sounded like the studio mandated a cut around 2 hours. all whedon did was condense the story. yeah he ended up cutting out a ton of heart and logic, etc. but he was just working with what he had

that said, yeah he sounds like a POS
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nah Joss Whedon intentionally cut out significantly important scenes

Cyborg and Flash were completely different and much more fleshed out than anyone ever realized.

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pure_temper posted...

nah Joss Whedon intentionally cut out significantly important scenes

Cyborg and Flash were completely different and much more fleshed out than anyone ever realized.

because snyder had more run time to work with
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No_U_L7 posted...

because snyder had more run time to work with

no, those scenes were already filmed. a lot of them were just straight up discarded

snyder didn't pull all that extra content out of thin air

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CM_Ponch posted...

One source also told the outlet that Gadot had issues about her character being more aggressive than her character in Wonder Woman. She wanted to make the character flow from one movie to the next.

Snyder Cut was literally the most aggressive version

She's talking about interpersonal conflict, not action scenes. Whedon's version introduces conflict between her and Bruce Wayne.

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Lmao @ people tryna make wheaton out to be a saint

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pure_temper posted...

no, those scenes were already filmed. a lot of them were just straight up discarded

snyder didn't pull all that extra content out of thin air

yeah they were filmed and wouldn't have fit into the run time he was alloted...everything he did was just for the sake of condensation

Veggeta X posted...

Lmao @ people tryna make wheaton out to be a saint

no one is trying to make whedon look like a saint
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No_U_L7 posted...

yeah they were filmed and wouldn't have fit into the run time he was alloted...everything he did was just for the sake of condensation

nah there was a lot of low-quality garbage he edited in and shit, way better scenes could've been included and the entire last sequence in whedon's cut is a incoherent mess

sloppy editing on purpose imo

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No_U_L7 posted...

yeah they were filmed and wouldn't have fit into the run time he was alloted...everything he did was just for the sake of condensation

no one is trying to make whedon look like a saint

Iono buddy you gonna have to reread some of these posts again then

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pure_temper posted...

sloppy editing on purpose imo

you're saying whedon purposely made a movie that would suck and tank at the box office? you realize that is his career and he literally has no motive to do that

i swear, the common sense some people lack is amazing

yeah he cut stuff and condensed and it didn't work out...doesnt mean he purposefully tanked the movie. isn't that tough to see the reasoning behind what he did, even if you didn't agree with it
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Corporate told Whedon to lighten the tone, add comedy scenes, and cut down the run time. All of this clashed with Snyder's vision. This is why the theatrical version felt off.

We should be blaming the higher ups who do not allow directors to realize their vision. Happens all the time.

Changing the tone mid-film previously ruined Batman Forever.

Tone is the first thing you decide on, not the last. It's a little difficult to turn something into a lighthearted comedy when you've already buried your best friend. Mod Note: That's not a spoiler for the film. Just an example to illustrate the problems of tonal whiplash.

Doe posted...

She's talking about interpersonal conflict

84's WW raped a guy

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No_U_L7 posted...

its crazy how so many people think whedon's changes were based off personal vendetta or being vindictive

you guys realize snyder's cut was FOUR HOURS LONG right? there's no way that can be a theatrical release. it sounded like the studio mandated a cut around 2 hours. all whedon did was condense the story. yeah he ended up cutting out a ton of heart and logic, etc. but he was just working with what he had

that said, yeah he sounds like a POS

It is, however, a good length to cut in half and release in two parts. Which would've been the smart decision.

No_U_L7 posted...

you're saying whedon purposely made a movie that would suck and tank at the box office? you realize that is his career and he literally has no motive to do that

i swear, the common sense some people lack is amazing

yeah he cut stuff and condensed and it didn't work out...doesnt mean he purposefully tanked the movie. isn't that tough to see the reasoning behind what he did, even if you didn't agree with it

Your literal argument is "whedon didn't purposely make the movie bad". Sure, but that doesn't mean it's good nor his vision what it's supposed to be.

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The Trent posted...

acting is probably a bigger threat to her career tbqh

Funny enough, kinda true

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Ok that part about aggressive WW makes no sense. The Snyder scene where she saves the hostages in London is DUMB.

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Veggeta X posted...

Your literal argument is "whedon didn't purposely make the movie bad". Sure, but that doesn't mean it's good nor his vision what it's supposed to be.

It wasn't Joss Whedon's vision. He was hired post production for rewrites based on how corporate thought audiences would recieve the Snyder Cut

Esrac posted...

It is, however, a good length to cut in half and release in two parts. Which would've been the smart decision.

1. thats a studio decision, not whedons
2. duration wise true, story wise false. even when split in 2 most movies have a beginning/middle/end, whereas this was paced as a 4 hour movie so that wouldnt be true. only time ive seen that done with the abrupt ending was hunger games book 3

Veggeta X posted...

Your literal argument is "whedon didn't purposely make the movie bad". Sure, but that doesn't mean it's good nor his vision what it's supposed to be.

correct, but at least some of that is hindsight. i can at least see what he was aiming for
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

We should be blaming the higher ups who do not allow directors to realize their vision. Happens all the time.

Also Snyder for being a hack in the first place.

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So its finally official that Fisher freaked out over Boo-yah.

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CM_Ponch posted...

One source also told the outlet that Gadot had issues about her character being more aggressive than her character in Wonder Woman. She wanted to make the character flow from one movie to the next.

Snyder Cut was literally the most aggressive version

She's probably referring to her personality. In the Whedon cut there's an inexplicable scene where everybody starts getting mad and arguing about bringing Superman back, and--for even more inexplicable reasons-- Bruce and Diana start getting pissed at each other, and Diana pushes Bruce into a shelf. It didn't make any sense, since Bruce and Diana literally started the justice league together. There's absolutely no reason for them to have that kind of animosity toward one another.


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BLAKUboy posted...

Also Snyder for being a hack in the first place.

True

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so "kal-el-no" was joss whedon's fault

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ModLogic posted...

so "kal-el-no" was joss whedon's fault

He used a bad take. There's a better one in the Snyder cut.

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ModLogic posted...

so "kal-el-no" was joss whedon's fault

what was wrong with "kal el no"?
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

It wasn't Joss Whedon's vision. He was hired post production for rewrites based on how corporate thought audiences would recieve the Snyder Cut

Then his view is just moronical. Sure it's not purposely tanking but completely moronical.

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I hated quippy batman

"Oh something is definitely bleeding"

*shows him reeling in pain like peter griffin and zooming out*

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It is proven

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79391104#3

the Whedon stans can stfu now

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pure_temper posted...

It is proven

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79391104#3

the Whedon stans can stfu now

flying too close with the gimmick

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ultimate reaver posted...

flying too close with the gimmick

funny i thought the same thing when you made that comment about head in the sand liberals

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