Current Events > People worried about side effects from the vaccine a few years down the line...

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I hope you guys are straight edge or something. >_>

I don't get this notion of outright antagonizing people who are concerned about the vaccine.
Not anti-vaxxers, but people who rightfully just don't feel confident.


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From what I hear the effects of COVID down the line are much worse

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KaZooo posted...

I don't get this notion of outright antagonizing people who are concerned about the vaccine.
Not anti-vaxxers, but people who rightfully just don't feel confident.

They are mostly idiots whose concerns are not based in reality.

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My family keeps telling me it will make you sterile.
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YourDrunkFather posted...

From what I hear the effects of COVID down the line are much worse

Some people would rather gamble with COVID than with a vaccine, I guess.

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billcom6 posted...

They are mostly idiots whose concerns are not based in reality.

Like most of the western European countries that suspended the AstraZeneca vaccine while they investigated reports of blood clots just to be sure, since nobody knows for sure and caution is warranted?

lmao so much hubris, why?

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Are there any long term side effects?
Because the vaccine hasnt even been around a year

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Phantom_Nook posted...

My family keeps telling me it will make you sterile.

Wow for free too. Bonus.

My family isn't antivax at all, but the immediate side effects and quickness of the production has us nervous. Why wouldn't a person be hesitant to take it?

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Phantom_Nook posted...

My family keeps telling me it will make you sterile.

It's a feature not a bug

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weak bait from an obvious alt

getting the vaccine is important but sitting there saying "you're stupid for not wanting a body-altering vaccine that took less than a year to produce" is not the answer. it's totally valid to have concerns.

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About 2 weeks after the vaccine came out:

Another strain confirmed!

Now there is what....4 strains?

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MI4 REAL posted...

About 2 weeks after the vaccine came out:

Another strain confirmed!

Now there is what....4 strains?

Are you working towards a point with this

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It is not unreasonable to be hesitant.

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Doom_Art posted...

Are you working towards a point with this

Odd timing.

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The vaccine is proven safe the only people who have a problem with it are republicans who refuse to get it. Basically every person who is actually intelligent can see the vaccine is safe and legit.

Covid19 vaccine will have dlc for variants though. The latest vaccination version will have be all in one until other variants have been identified, processed, and included in the next vaccine version.

Basically by being vaccinated, you agree to all the terms and rights are waived to make big pharms liable of any side effects you personally get. Theres a 0.001% chance you can get something that you might not get if the vaccine was not taken. But a greater chance to get covid19 without it.

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MI4 REAL posted...

Odd timing.

Aaaaand...?

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KStateKing17 posted...

My family isn't antivax at all, but the immediate side effects and quickness of the production has us nervous. Why wouldn't a person be hesitant to take it?

people have been working on Sars vaccines for years. covid 19 accelerated the need. if it were the first mass produced vaccine ever, I would get the hesitation, but there are lots of articles and videos that explain how it works so I don't get the fear.

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Lmao they're going to get a cold in three years and blame the vaccine.

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It's a lack of understanding of what all is involved in the process. This wasn't just created from scratch. It builds upon many things.

And they tend to just have a distrust of certain organizations and institutions
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SquirtleSkwad posted...

Lmao they're going to get a cold in three years and blame the vaccine.

Nope.

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I got the vaccine and now I have 17 penises

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KStateKing17 posted...

My family isn't antivax at all, but the immediate side effects and quickness of the production has us nervous. Why wouldn't a person be hesitant to take it?

Wait, wouldn't being able to accurately say what the immediate side effects are be a positive thing? It means they've studied it...
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I was initially hesitant to this one with how quick its been made and rolled out. After seeing how its done with a large amount of people already administered their doses has made me look at is far more reward than risk.

Is there a long term risk? I dont know. Ive already been around enough stuff that may be a risk somewhere down the line. Its gonna be well worth it for me.

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dummy420 posted...

Is there a long term risk? I dont know

Nobody does and thats the problem

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Why do you trust your own hesitance rather than listening to experts and using their hesitance as a guideline?

Sure, if you initially heard just the development times out of context, maybe that would be worrying initially. But listen to what the experts have to say about that, let them provide the context for you.

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I haven't had it yet. Not in a huge hurry. Plus with all these mutations out there will probably be a Vaccine 2.0 in the next few months or something.

i still wear my mask daily though, even in an area that has been wearing theirs less and less.

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berlyman101 posted...

people have been working on Sars vaccines for years. covid 19 accelerated the need. if it were the first mass produced vaccine ever, I would get the hesitation, but there are lots of articles and videos that explain how it works so I don't get the fear.

I've mentioned before about my mother's experience. The first dose caused sickness and headaches for about a week and the second wasn't as long, but she's complained about certain foods bothering her. She also had a coworker lose her husband after taking it though he had the virus at the time so I'm sure that played a role.

She's worried after that because her sister and husband have also had the virus and are in generally worse health than her. Is there a correlation between former carriers and negative reactions to the vaccine?

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pure_temper posted...

Like most of the western European countries that suspended the AstraZeneca vaccine while they investigated reports of blood clots just to be sure, since nobody knows for sure and caution is warranted?

lmao so much hubris, why?

Seriously, people who get mad at others for questioning the long-term effects are fucking weirdos. If they are blatantly anti-vaccine that's fine to tear into them but to act like a tool over a legitimate concern is really cringy.

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KStateKing17 posted...

I've mentioned before about my mother's experience. The first dose caused sickness and headaches for about a week and the second wasn't as long, but she's complained about certain foods bothering her. She also had a coworker lose her husband after taking it though he had the virus at the time so I'm sure that played a role.

She's worried after that because her sister and husband have also had the virus and are in generally worse health than her. Is there a correlation between former carriers and negative reactions to the vaccine?

I'm not a researcher and I'm not a doctor, but when I make a medical decision it is with a doctor's help and I do my own research. with that, you can decide what to do or not do without fear being the deciding factor.

This could get you started:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

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I agree with the masks, but when it comes to the daily numbers why arent there numbers of the people sick or bad side effects from the shot on tv?

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SkylightNight posted...

I hope you guys are straight edge or something. >_>

I am! I don't smoke, drink, do drugs, etc.

But I hear that whole "death" thing from Covid sounds pretty bad so I'm getting my second shot day after tomorrow.

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pure_temper posted...

Like most of the western European countries that suspended the AstraZeneca vaccine while they investigated reports of blood clots just to be sure, since nobody knows for sure and caution is warranted?

lmao so much hubris, why?

FWIW the AZ vaccine isn't even being offered in the US

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i'm straight edge

but i'd still get the vaccine

i been sick for 5 weeks with some stomach/lung thing and still not better yet. thats nothing compared to the flu compared to covid, so fucking hell yes i would take a vaccine if it means not being depressed cos im sick

anti-vaxxers raise the chance of me and my family getting it and so they can just fuck right off.
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FL81 posted...

FWIW the AZ vaccine isn't even being offered in the US

Also the blood clot issue is a nonissue and almost all experts are saying that it's way too overly cautious to stop deployment given that reported number of blood clots doesn't even exceed the incidence in the general population.

I've seen far more outrage in the expert community about the decision to stop giving out the vaccine than concern about blood clots.

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BignutzisBack posted...

Seriously, people who get mad at others for questioning the long-term effects are fucking weirdos. If they are blatantly anti-vaccine that's fine to tear into them but to act like a tool over a legitimate concern is really cringy.

Vaccination has gotten weird. It I watch what people all for it say elsewhere, it's like, the one and only instituiion to be trusted blindly without question. Meanwhile you watch some of those "ask your doctor if [so and so] is right for you and its list of potential side effects and are looked at as crazy for going "are we sure this is safe".

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Phantom_Nook posted...

My family keeps telling me it will make you sterile.

they're incredibly wrong. please correct them and help stop the spread of misinformation

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/the-covid19-vaccine-and-pregnancy-what-you-need-to-know

https://www.khou.com/article/news/verify/verify-no-evidence-that-covid-vaccine-causes-erectile-dysfunction-cancer-or-infertility/285-a8e9e39d-337e-4532-b43d-37a4c8b34e07

https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/25/infertility-myth-covid-19-vaccines-pregnancy/


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I don't understand the complaint of IT ONLY TOOK A YEAR. Shouldn't you be excited at the culmination of human ingenuity and medical progress in a life-saving vaccine, and celebrating it?

Like imagine going back in time to the 1700s and told people you had a new, magical treatment/vaccine for smallpox, and they were like "Eh, we'll pass. We're good with just smearing pus from a sick person's blisters into our veins since it's what we know."

There's so many trivial things you expose yourself to on a daily basis which could have harmful effects on your body down the line. Singling out a vaccine is a weird hill to die on.

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LostForest posted...

I don't understand the complaint of IT ONLY TOOK A YEAR. Shouldn't you be excited at the culmination of human ingenuity and medical progress in a life-saving vaccine, and celebrating it?

yah my comparison on that is like building infrastructure

it doesnt take 5 years to build the overpass highway thing because it "can't be done in 5 years". it takes that long because it needs to minimize traffic disruption, its to ensure the contractors (which they have only a limited amount of) get steady work and its because the budget figures can't afford to spend more each year on it

if you can ignore that it blocks traffic, you can hire 10 times as many contractors (who you dont care wont have a job when its finished) and you can throw way more money at it, you can build it quicker

if this virus only infected around 50k people and was extremely hard to transmit to others, you wouldnt be seeing a vaccine yet imo
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LostForest posted...

Like imagine going back in time to the 1700s and told people you had a new, magical treatment/vaccine for smallpox, and they were like "Eh, we'll pass. We're good with just smearing pus from a sick person's blisters into our veins since it's what we know."

I mean they might do that. You'd also be taken in for questioning about your arcane magick.

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FL81 posted...

FWIW the AZ vaccine isn't even being offered in the US

That might be a good thing, check out this article

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1379506462574137351?s=19

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Giant_Aspirin posted...

they're incredibly wrong.

Yeah, I know. But there's no point in trying to have a discussion about it since they hang out on those disinformation rags all day.
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