Current Events > what's the next extremist online radicalization political movement you think

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the mid 2010's saw the alt-right, anti-SJW nazi discourse dominate online discourse, and right now it seems like communism/tankie-ism is the new wave. what do you think it will look like 5 years from now?

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head in the sand liberalism

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I think we will see a hard swing for something between libertarianism and anarchy

So much of the current anticapitalist extremism is anti individual rights - or at least completely disregards them - that i expect some backlash

But i think it will take more than 5 years to get there
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Delirious_Beard posted...

the mid 2010's saw the alt-right, anti-SJW nazi discourse dominate online discourse, and right now it seems like communism/tankie-ism is the new wave. what do you think it will look like 5 years from now?

The most annoying part of that shit was things like the gamers are dead articles...if these idiots just remembered "keep it simple stupid" that shit wouldnt have been weaponizble. Your audience isnt your journalism/creative writing professor and it isnt your peers its a group of people 10-20 years younger than you, explain what you mean without the critical analysis lens and people actually will understand and more than likely agree. Then you got people telling other people they are bad because they like X thing instead of explaining why X thing may be bad....

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Delirious_Beard posted...

and right now it seems like communism/tankie-ism is the new wave.

Despite the loud few on CE, tankies are still a small minority among the far-left, and the alt-right Nazis are more powerful than ever before at the moment...

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ZeroX91 posted...

The most annoying part of that shit was things like the gamers are dead articles...if these idiots just remembered "keep it simple stupid" that shit wouldnt have been weaponizble. Your audience isnt your journalism/creative writing professor and it isnt your peers its a group of people 10-20 years younger than you, explain what you mean without the critical analysis lens and people actually will understand and more than likely agree. Then you got people telling other people they are bad because they like X thing instead of explaining why X thing may be bad....

Yeah they definitely deserved to be harassed and targeted with death threats for using uhh *checks notes* very basic metaphors in their writing.

Fuck off.

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Phynaster posted...

Despite the loud few on CE, tankies are still a small minority among the far-left, and the alt-right Nazis are more powerful than ever before at the moment...

And youtube and Tiktok

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Phynaster posted...

Yeah they definitely deserved to be harassed and targeted with death threats for using uhh *checks notes* very basic metaphors in their writing.

Fuck off.

Way to ignore the point

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ZeroX91 posted...

Way to ignore the point

The point that such dense rhetoric as "x is dead" is over the heads of the gamerbabies who would go on to form an alt-right movement to target those writers?

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Return of neoconservatism and extreme pro Israeli/American nationalism.

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Phynaster posted...

The point that such dense rhetoric as "x is dead" is over the heads of the gamerbabies who would go on to form an alt-right movement to target those writers?

That 90% of the people reading and getting upset, making hollow threats, then falling down the altright rabbithole at the time would have been 16~. Shit could have been avoided if they bothered to explain things at a non"academic" level.

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ZeroX91 posted...

That 90% of the people reading and getting upset, making hollow threats, then falling down the altright rabbithole at the time would have been 16~.

I'd love to see a single statistic backing this up.

ZeroX91 posted...

explain things at a non"academic" level.

Simple metaphors are not "academic" writing.

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Phynaster posted...

Despite the loud few on CE, tankies are still a small minority among the far-left, and the alt-right Nazis are more powerful than ever before at the moment...

Tankies and neo Nazis are both a fringe minority

Delirious_Beard posted...

the mid 2010's saw the alt-right, anti-SJW nazi discourse dominate online discourse, and right now it seems like communism/tankie-ism is the new wave. what do you think it will look like 5 years from now?

No it's not.

The extreme far right American/Israeli nationalist alliance is mainstream.

ie the Trump/Netanyahu alliance.

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Tapping out had this argument for too many years. Not worth it go ahead and keep making the same mistake.

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ZeroX91 posted...

Tapping out had this argument for too many years. Not worth it go ahead and keep making the same mistake.

So I'll take that as "I don't have a single statistic to back this up"

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I could see anti Isreal or anti muslim coming back into fashion shits pretty cylical

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Hopefully free da nipple finally succeeds

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Phynaster posted...

So I'll take that as "I don't have a single statistic to back this up"

Take it however you want it. Repeat the last 8 years in 4.

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The only dangerous wave still is anti sjws and the alt right.

ZeroX91 posted...

Take it however you want it. Repeat the last 8 years in 4.

"You have to cater all your language to the anti-intellectual far-right or they'll get angry and try to destroy the country" is a hell of a take.

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Globe twitter assholes are bad too

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Gearing your speech to your reader isnt catering to the altright its not using vocabulary that you will only ever hear in a polisci class when your demographic is primarily still in highschool

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ZeroX91 posted...

Gearing your speech to your reader isnt catering to the altright its not using vocabulary that you will only ever hear in a polisci class when your demographic is primarily still in highschool

It's an extremely fucking basic metaphor. God what kind of anti-intellectual nonsense is this

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And again, provide a source for "gamergate were all 16 year olds" or shut the fuck up

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EllieWilliams95 posted...

The only dangerous wave still is anti sjws and the alt right.

tankies are absolutely dangerous

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Do you place any stock into an assessment from me, on account of me having identified the tankie issue a long time ago? If so, I can try to offer a description of what I see emerging next. If not, I'll just partake quietly by lurking.

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Phynaster posted...

Despite the loud few on CE, tankies are still a small minority among the far-left, and the alt-right Nazis are more powerful than ever before at the moment...

the alt-right is imploding, FBI is slamming Proudboys as we speak, Parler was most likely a honeypot, etc. Tankies are becoming more prevalent on Twitter tho. Follow any major leftist thread on Twitter and you'll see them assembling and polluting the conv.

Reddit too. you ever seen r/sino? or r/chapotraphouse? legitimately decent people frequent these, but it's not those who were/are the issue.

in any case I believe the tankies and alt-right are at the end of the day on the same side or will become the same side because they're all basically incels

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...bronies.

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TC how come you changed your mind on commies/tankies? Or came to consider them dangerous?

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Whatever you call the politics of a planet cleansed of all life...world peace forever!?

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rise of the radical gamer

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sevihaimerej posted...

Whatever you call the politics of a planet cleansed of all life...world peace forever!?

i know you're joking but you're along the right lines of what I think the next one will be

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pure_temper posted...

TC how come you changed your mind on commies/tankies? Or came to consider them dangerous?

i don't really remember ever sympathizing much with tankies and communism at large. if you're asking what changed to make me wary of certain leftists it was probably the primaries last year and the fallout from it. the bernie or bust crowd completely repulsed me and made me reconsider a lot of things about political action and pragmatism and I realized a lot of those people operated entirely on spite, which is precisely what disgusted me about Republicans.

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Delirious_Beard posted...

i don't really remember ever sympathizing much with tankies and communism at large. if you're asking what changed to make me wary of certain leftists it was probably the primaries last year and the fallout from it. the bernie or bust crowd completely repulsed me and made me reconsider a lot of things about political action and pragmatism and I realized a lot of those people operated entirely on spite, which is precisely what disgusted me about Republicans.

huh you're a lot wiser than I gave you credit for, most people never bother to notice or think about this stuff at all. it's all tribalism or spite like you said.

i think incels will become a much worse problem to the point where they start believing stuff like in post #34 (not saying anyone here is an incel, just that they'll adopt those beliefs)

"if I can't have what I want, no one should"

and

"what do I need laws for? just take what I want or ruin everything if I can't"

basically pining for a CHAZ or anarchy situation where they will be the men in charge, basically. power fantasy exacerbated by increased poverty.

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Kinda like Naziism but based on age or class instead of race.

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Trumble posted...

Kinda like Naziism but based on age or class instead of race.

Like in the movie Logan's Run? I'd considered that deeply, then concluded that it's not going to happen.

The reason for that is because as our generation and younger age, we'll need our combined expertise/knowledge more than ever before. The depth to each subject just increases as information/data explode in size. This means that it takes more and more time to become an expert at something, let alone multiple things.

We will no longer advance as a species if we start axing older people - we need them. They are supposed to be the brakes on young people (18-25) going absolutely insane (a la tankies or proudboys). And thankfully they succeeded in this role by preventing the January 6 coup and having an FBI informant at the very top of that funnel.

In terms of class, I think the billionaires realize that it's too late for them to eliminate the poor people and that we need as many minds as possible working on the engineering problems of the future. For the reasons mentioned above (the complexity of information accelerating at a rapid rate).

Otherwise they wouldn't be openly saying this kind of stuff:

https://moores.samaltman.com/

Or asking to be taxed more. Etc.

I really believe the biggest problem in the near future (3-5 years) will be incels.

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pure_temper posted...

Reddit too. you ever seen r/sino? or r/chapotraphouse? legitimately decent people frequent these, but it's not those who were/are the issue.

Wasn't r/chapotraphouse banned?

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Delirious_Beard posted...

i don't really remember ever sympathizing much with tankies and communism at large. if you're asking what changed to make me wary of certain leftists it was probably the primaries last year and the fallout from it. the bernie or bust crowd completely repulsed me and made me reconsider a lot of things about political action and pragmatism and I realized a lot of those people operated entirely on spite, which is precisely what disgusted me about Republicans.

this is part of why "tankie" isn't useful as a descriptive term. you're literally using the term to refer to Bernie Sanders supporters

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Ivynn posted...

Wasn't r/chapotraphouse banned?

Yeah. I'd been watching it for some time tho, way before the ban. it's one of the things that gave me that red scare before I left CE for a while lol.

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ultimate reaver posted...

head in the sand liberalism

If communism is the new wave as OP suggests, this is the bulwark keeping the masses in misery.

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Ivynn posted...

Wasn't r/chapotraphouse banned?

it was, and i never noticed any tankies there

but yeah tankie presence seems to be growing

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Shablagoo posted...

If communism is the new wave as OP suggests, this is the bulwark keeping the masses in misery.

Eyeratosthenes posted...

oh hey this you?

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lol Shab is such a tool

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Communism, liberalism...meaningless concepts now. I fully believe this will happen:

https://moores.samaltman.com/

Along with the Green New Deal. An age of prosperity for all.

Except for incels who will want to destroy it because of misanthropy and hatred.

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Shablagoo posted...

If communism is the new wave as OP suggests, this is the bulwark keeping the masses in misery.

thoughts on this twitter thread

https://twitter.com/thecoleslaws/status/1375429983234093059

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Delirious_Beard posted...

thoughts on this twitter thread

https://twitter.com/thecoleslaws/status/1375429983234093059

you're gonna get suspended

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