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Intro2Logic
03/28/21 7:59:10 PM
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Get a load of this nonsense
https://americanmind.org/salvo/why-the-claremont-institute-is-not-conservative-and-you-shouldnt-be-either/

Lets be blunt. The United States has become two nations occupying the same country. When pressed, or in private, many would now agree. Fewer are willing to take the next step and accept that most people living in the United States todaycertainly more than halfare not Americans in any meaningful sense of the term.

I dont just mean the millions of illegal immigrants. Obviously, those foreigners who have bypassed the regular process for entering our country, and probably will never assimilate to our language and culture, arepolitically as well as legallyaliens. Im really referring to the many native-born peoplesome of whose families have been here since the Mayflowerwho may technically be citizens of the United States but are no longer (if they ever were) Americans. They do not believe in, live by, or even like the principles, traditions, and ideals that until recently defined America as a nation and as a people. It is not obvious what we should call these citizen-aliens, these non-American Americans; but they are something else.

What about those who do consider themselves Americans? By and large, I am referring to the 75 million people who voted in the last election against the senile figurehead of a party that stands for mob violence, ruthless censorship, and racial grievances, not to mention bureaucratic despotism. Regardless of Trumps obvious flaws, preferring his re-election was not a difficult choice for these voters. In factleaving aside the Republican never-Trumpers and some squeamish centristsit was not a difficult choice for either side. Both Right and Left know where they stand today and it is not together. Not anymore.

Those who wanted to Make America Great Again may refer to themselves as Republicans, though many realize that, apart from Trump, the party does not really care about them. Many may also, in some loose way, consider themselves conservatives. But among these plumbers, insurance salesmen, gym owners, and factory workers theres one question you can pretty much guarantee they never discuss with their family and friends: What kind of conservative are you? This question has virtually no bearing on the problems that overshadow their lives.

It is still a question, however, that occupies intellectuals, journalists, and the world of think tanks. And this matters, unfortunately, because however sensible and down to earth the voters may be, an effective political movement needs intellectual leadership to organize and explain the movements purposes and goals. This leadership is still divided intoto name a fewneocons, paleocons (not to be confused with paleo-libertarians!) rad-trads, the dissident right, reformicons, etc. A lot of these labels are a distraction. But before I reject these disputes as mostly irrelevant, let me make a couple of points about why we cant immediately leave this debate behindand so why an essay like this is necessary.

The conservative movement still matters because if the defenders of America continue to squabble among themselves, the victory of progressive tyranny will be assured. See you in the gulag. On the off chance we can avoid that fate, it will only be if the shrinking number of Americans unite and work together. But we cant simply mandate that conservatives set aside their differences, no matter how urgent it is that they do so. So my goal here is to show why we must all unite around the one, authentic America, the only one which transcends all the factional navel-gazing and pointless conservababble.

Practically speaking, there is almost nothing left to conserve. What is actually required now is a recovery, or even a refounding, of America as it was long and originally understood but which now exists only in the hearts and minds of a minority of citizens.
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The great majority of establishment conservatives who were alarmed and repelled by Trumps rough manner and disregard for norms are almost totally clueless about a basic fact: Our norms are now hopelessly corrupt and need to be destroyed. It has been like this for a whileand the MAGA voters knew it, while most of the policy wonks and magazine scribblers did not and still dont. In almost every case, the political practices, institutions, and even rhetoric governing the United States have become hostile to both liberty and virtue. On top of that, the mainline churches, universities, popular culture, and the corporate world are rotten to the core. What exactly are we trying to conserve?

At a basic level, Trump understood this. His problem was that he lacked the discipline to target his creative/destructive tendencies effectively. But even with greater discipline, he still would have lacked the insight to discern and explain what needs to be destroyed and why. His presidency, especially in a second term, might have corrected this deficiency, except that Trump suffered greatly from an absence of good advisors who could help him make sound judgments.

This is partly his own fault, thanks to his bombastic vanity, but partly not, since only a handful of such advisors existand these few, moreover, have long been unwelcome in the corridors of power inside the Beltway.

Conservatism, Inc. is worse than useless in this regard because it does not understand through perpetual study what Trump grasped by instinct. As if coming upon a man convulsing from an obvious poison, Trump at least attempted in his own inelegant way to expel the toxin. By contrast, the conservative establishment, or much of it, has been unwilling to recognize that our body politic is dying from these noxious norms. Keep taking the poison! it advises. A cynic might suppose that many elements on the right have made their peace with (and found a way to profit from) the progressive project of narcotizing the American people and turning us into a nation of slaves.

What is needed, of course, is a statesman who understands both the disease afflicting the nation, and the revolutionary medicine required for the cure. But no such figure has emerged, and it is unreasonable to pin our hopes on such a savior simply turning up.

What, then, are Americans to do?
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The rule of the majority in America would be limited in principle to doing what could only rightly be done by all the people. That is, the majority acting in and through the Constitution, could not infringe the rights of the minority. The government derived its authority from consent of all the American people, who created the Union to protect their natural rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That meant no more kings exercising authority by divine right; no more hereditary aristocracy; no more established churches; and no permanent bureaucracy staffed by unaccountable experts. For the first time, the idea of a social compact uniting all the people would form a truly nonpartisan regime.

The great difficulty is that this idea only works if everyone agreesthat is, if everyone gets it and acknowledges that we are all fellow citizens (friends, ultimately) and that any temporary majority in power must represent the rights and interests of all.

This is the vital heart of what made American self-government work as long as it did. And it is the repudiation of this idea that animates the progressive, or woke, or antiracist agenda that now corrupts our republic, assaults our morality, and suffocates our liberty.

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AlisLandale
03/28/21 8:02:48 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
They do not believe in, live by, or even like the principles, traditions, and ideals that until recently defined America as a nation and as a people.

Yeah, kinda sucks how Trump supporters will literally attempt a coup because they place their cult leader above the values of democracy and free elections.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/28/21 8:09:11 PM
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ScazarMeltex
03/28/21 8:20:07 PM
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Holy fuck is that some ridiculous shit.

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BeyondWalls
03/28/21 8:30:08 PM
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I managed to make it to the third paragraph.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/28/21 8:40:58 PM
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It's kinda funny how careful he is to avoid saying just what the values of "true Americans" are.

Such a common thing with bigots. There's some cognitive dissonance where they understand why bigotry is bad, and yet don't want to admit it.

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Antifar
03/28/21 8:42:02 PM
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Bold strategy to explicitly make your movement against the majority.

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apolloooo
03/28/21 8:45:12 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...


This is the vital heart of what made American self-government work as long as it did. And it is the repudiation of this idea that animates the progressive, or woke, or antiracist agenda that now corrupts our republic, assaults our morality, and suffocates our liberty.

Umm if antiracist corupt your morals then your morals are already skewed bro

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Esrac
03/28/21 8:49:04 PM
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Not reading it. Is it some kind of Groyper manifesto?
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jpenny2
03/28/21 9:00:08 PM
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apolloooo posted...
Umm if antiracist corupt your morals then your morals are already skewed bro
The writer seems like he would prefer to go back to a time when racism was considered morally acceptable.

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wackyteen
03/28/21 9:04:22 PM
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If you were born in the country, have fought for the country, earned your citizenship to the country, and/or can legally consider yourself American then

You're an American.

Anyone who says otherwise or entertains the idea that someone is somehow not "American" based on whatever bullshit inane reasoning their Limp dick brains can come up with can go fuck themselves and burn in Hell

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Nasty_Nitro
03/28/21 9:07:11 PM
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So many words just to say: I wish america was only white people

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Heartomaton
03/28/21 9:09:15 PM
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Wanna read some right wing lunacy?

No thanks.

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