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cjsdowg
03/27/21 9:09:17 AM
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Relations between the two countries have now reached the level of strategic partnership and China seeks to comprehensively improve relations with Iran, Chinas Foreign Minister Wang Yi was quoted by Irans state media as telling his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif.
Our relations with Iran will not be affected by the current situation, but will be permanent and strategic, Wang said ahead of the televised signing ceremony.
Iran decides independently on its relations with other countries and is not like some countries that change their position with one phone call, he said.
Wang met President Hassan Rouhani ahead of the signing of the agreement in Tehran, which is expected to include Chinese investments in key sectors such as energy and infrastructure.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1375764569629601795

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America is literally giving these nations that don't like us , reasons to join with one another. China is up there killing Muslims and Iran is joining them. Why because this is why for Iran to the get the Covid vac that America is stopping them getting now.

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Lord_Shadow
03/27/21 9:18:39 AM
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Lol his name is wang

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Machete
03/27/21 9:20:20 AM
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thanks, donald trump
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Squall28
03/27/21 9:23:40 AM
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How is America stopping them from getting it?

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cjsdowg
03/27/21 9:32:36 AM
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Squall28 posted...
How is America stopping them from getting it?

America has sanctions still placed on them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-covax-coronavirus-vaccine-sanctions/2020/12/07/61a721f8-3632-11eb-9699-00d311f13d2d_story.html

When it came to come back to the table, Iran said they would if those were lifted and the America said no. As if Iran were the ones who broke the deal.

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Lordgold666
03/27/21 9:37:00 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Lol his name is wang


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Squall28
03/27/21 10:24:08 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
America has sanctions still placed on them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-covax-coronavirus-vaccine-sanctions/2020/12/07/61a721f8-3632-11eb-9699-00d311f13d2d_story.html

When it came to come back to the table, Iran said they would if those were lifted and the America said no. As if Iran were the ones who broke the deal.

Ok that's fucked up. Gotta make exceptions for these things.

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/27/21 10:27:35 AM
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Chinas gonna create a huge humanitarian crisis at some point

And itll be up to US to watch

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Sackgurl
03/27/21 10:43:16 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
When it came to come back to the table, Iran said they would if those were lifted and the America said no. As if Iran were the ones who broke the deal.

but they did break the deal, trump just broke it first (thereby giving them no reason to follow it, but also biden a reason to not lift sanctions)

that doesn't mean it's reasonable to end the sanctions just to get them back at the negotiating table, the end of the sanctions are what happens when the deal is reinstated

vaccine certainly should be exempted though.

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Duncanwii
03/27/21 10:45:34 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Chinas gonna create a huge humanitarian crisis at some point

And itll be up to US to watch

Not much you can do to a nuclear superpower. Why do people here think the US can even do zip without getting trashed?
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cjsdowg
03/27/21 10:46:19 AM
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Sackgurl posted...


but they did break the deal, trump just broke it first (thereby giving them no reason to follow it, but also biden a reason to not lift sanctions)

that doesn't mean it's reasonable to end the sanctions just to get them back at the negotiating table, the end of the sanctions are what happens when the deal is reinstated

What ? America broke the deal, at that point there was no more real deal. You are complaining that they didn't keep following a deal that America wasn't following? And yes the sanctions should have been lifted as sign of a good faith since like stated before it was America who broke the deal. They got sanctions placed on them while they were following the deal. Why would Iran work with terms like that ?

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FortuneCookie
03/27/21 10:46:57 AM
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Okay, I thought this was going to be firing a round at American forces. The title had me worried we were looking at World War III.
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pure_temper
03/27/21 10:47:24 AM
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If Iran is siding with the country that has 1 million+ Uyghur Muslims still in a "job training" camp that has gotten the free world to place sanctions on Chinese officials who are involved...

Then something else is going on and this is a smokescreen. Don't be fooled, TC.

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s0nicfan
03/27/21 10:49:02 AM
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So that's 2 members of the new axis powers. Italy, keep your shit together.

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cjsdowg
03/27/21 10:50:37 AM
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pure_temper posted...
If Iran is siding with the country that has 1 million+ Uyghur Muslims still in a "job training" camp that has gotten the free world to place sanctions on Chinese officials who are involved...

Then something else is going on and this is a smokescreen. Don't be fooled, TC.

Maybe they just don't care about the Uyghur ? That is a pretty sad to say, but could be a possibility.


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BignutzisBack
03/27/21 10:50:41 AM
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We need to immediately form an alliance with India

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Sackgurl
03/27/21 10:58:26 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
What ? America broke the deal, at that point there was no more real deal. You are complaining that they didn't keep following a deal that America wasn't following? And yes the sanctions should have been lifted as sign of a good faith since like stated before it was America who broke the deal. They got sanctions placed on them while they were following the deal. Why would Iran work with terms like that ?

how many signatories do you think were

hint: the answer is not 2.

yes, it continued to be a legal document even after trump decided to destroy america's credibility.

i agree that their decision to stop following it was rational. but to lift sanctions completely just to get to the negotiating table with zero promises from them will not restore that credibility, because the lack of credibility is a function of the possibility of future republican governments, not the fear that biden is going to be just like trump. it is a bad trade.

the appropriate solution is for both parties--neither of which are following the treaty--to return to the negotiating table. iran's refusal to trust us is understandable. as is our refusal to humiliate ourselves in order to "gain" their trust.

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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:24:27 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Maybe they just don't care about the Uyghur ? That is a pretty sad to say, but could be a possibility.

And that should tell you something about Iran's real intentions.

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Dark_SilverX
03/27/21 11:26:20 AM
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Thanks Biden

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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 11:38:53 AM
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America will wind up wiped from the face of the Earth if the government and ignorant masses dont wake up. Ands it's sad because I live hear.

Dont get mad at me for speaking the truth. This government is the dumbest government on the face of the planet and most arrogant. If you think when that time comes you'll have an ally fighting to have your back after all of the hell you've given to all of the people of the Earth you are sadly mistaken. China and Iran will not be the only Nations teaming up to go against America when the final War pops off.

America and its ignorant masses must repent, wake up and stop trying to justify acts when they are clearly wrong.

Its not Irans fault that the USA ripped up its former deal, plus they continue to refuse to lift the sanctions? You have to be stupid to continue to uphold the terms of an Agreement that the other party itself does not uphold. At that point there is no Agreement. To try and spin it on Iran like its up to them to continue the terms of the agreement is just a sign of arrogance and a sign that the USA doesn't really want an agreement anyway. Its the USA that always violates its treaty more so than any other Nation on the planet. The Iranians actually upheld the terms when it was active under Obama
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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:40:16 AM
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It's a shame to see 2Pacavelli's posts as of late and to realize more and more that he's either another CCP shill like Shab or just one of the useful CEmen.

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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 11:40:41 AM
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pure_temper posted...
It's a shame to see 2Pacavelli's posts as of late and to realize more and more that he's either another CCP shill like Shab or just one of the useful CEmen.

You're a shill and you're shook. What I stated is the God's honest Truth. Its bigger than China
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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:41:27 AM
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You have no idea what you're talking about and post #20 is just delusional.

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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:42:04 AM
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@2Pacavelli what do you think about the Uyghur genocide in Xinjiang?

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Kingbuffet
03/27/21 11:42:07 AM
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I dont know why the United States hates Iran so much, its mostly because our politics is stupidly influenced by Israel.
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Background_Guy
03/27/21 11:42:33 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Iran decides independently on its relations with other countries and is not like some countries that change their position with one phone call,
He sounds like a bitter ex here
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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:43:38 AM
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Kingbuffet posted...
I dont know why the United States hates Iran so much, its mostly because our politics is stupidly influenced by Israel.

Iran's former Prime Minister said some really fucked up things on television about what he wants to do to Israel, and it was motivated by his interpretation of religion for the most part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel

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MildEnergy
03/27/21 11:43:50 AM
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Kingbuffet posted...
I dont know why the United States hates Iran so much, its mostly because our politics is stupidly influenced by Israel.
Its almost as if, a few million Israelis are given priority in US FP than 7 billion people in the world.

Is the average Israeli really worth more than 1000 other people?

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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 11:46:30 AM
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pure_temper posted...
You have no idea what you're talking about and post #20 is just delusional.

You're naive and have your head in the clouds. The people of the planet Earth are fed up with America's treachery and hypocrisy. And when the time comes when they feel America is weak, they will all team up with each other for what they feel America has done wrong to them

The more the USA rejects its chance at honest diplomatic resolutions. The bigger the grave it digs for itself
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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:47:36 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
You're naive and have your head in the clouds. The people of the planet Earth are fed up with America's treachery and hypocrisy. And when the time comes when they feel America is weak, they will all team up with each other for what they feel America has done wrong to them

The more the USA rejects its chance at honest diplomatic resolutions. The bigger the grave it digs for itself

America has thousands of nukes, and you know this. The only reason you'd front this delusional take is if you believe God wants people to start Armageddon before his return. Is that what this is about? Same as Ahmadinejad's views basically.

Also what do you think about the Uyghur genocide in Xinjiang?

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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:49:18 AM
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@cjsdowg do you agree with 2Pacavelli's posts?

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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 11:49:21 AM
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pure_temper posted...
@2Pacavelli what do you think about the Uyghur genocide in Xinjiang?

This is about the Iran nuclear deal. Every nation has dirt and evil it's done. I never said China was innocent. This topic is not about that though.

This question is basically asking "what about Black on Black crime?" It has nothing to do with the subject. America has "allys" commiting genocide, and is commiting genocide in it's own nation as we speak
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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 11:49:50 AM
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pure_temper posted...
@cjsdowg do you agree with 2Pacavelli's posts?
He doesn't have to explain himself to you
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SPE
03/27/21 11:49:51 AM
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Machete posted...
thanks, donald trump


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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 11:51:00 AM
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pure_temper posted...
America has thousands of nukes, and you know this. The only reason you'd front this delusional take is if you believe God wants people to start Armageddon before his return. Is that what this is about? Same as Ahmadinejad's views basically.

Also what do you think about the Uyghur genocide in Xinjiang?

And the other nations has thousands of nukes too. Which is why it's better to solve problems diplomatically. A nuke is not solving anyone problems

The USA lost in Vietnam despite having the most equipped military on the planet. Just because the USA has nukes doesn't mean they cant be beaten.
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Southernfatman
03/27/21 11:51:27 AM
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pure_temper posted...
It's a shame to see 2Pacavelli's posts as of late and to realize more and more that he's either another CCP shill like Shab or just one of the useful CEmen.

He blocked me because I pointed out his hero Farrakhan and the NOI are racist.

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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:51:53 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
This is about the Iran nuclear deal. Every nation has dirt and evil it's done. I never said China was innocent. This topic is not about that though.

This question is basically asking "what about Black on Black crime?" It has nothing to do with the subject. America has "allys" commiting genocide, and is commiting genocide in it's own nation as we speak

The topic is literally about Iran teaming up with China and China using this as leverage. So China's genocide in Xinjiang is absolutely relevant here, especially when a CEman is clowning around about how there must be some kind of holy war against America's sins, led by "the world" where "the world" in this equation is China + Iran, two countries with totalitarian regimes.

One of which actively has a "re-education" camp full of Uyghur Muslims in it right now.

You are calling for or egging on the idea of America's destruction at the hands of foreign powers and then "whataboutism" about America's allies. Don't weasel away from the truth.

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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:53:27 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
And the other nations has thousands of nukes too. Which is why it's better to solve problems diplomatically. A nuke is not solving anyone problems

BAHAHAHAHA what a change of tone.

Did you know that China is actually Russia's bitch? And that America and Russia learned how to work together and coexist decades ago? And thank God for that.

Anyway, there is no version of your future where China and Iran aren't turned into glass if they actually try anything. But that's what you want, isn't it? Are you a Black Hebrew Israelite or something? Your posts are consistent with their views and goals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites

Known anti-semitic group.

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pure_temper
03/27/21 11:54:49 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The USA lost in Vietnam despite having the most equipped military on the planet. Just because the USA has nukes doesn't mean they cant be beaten.

America and Russia would collapse China if it ever came to it. Edit: and Thank God it wont because Xi has more brain than the garden variety antisemite trolls on the internet.

Southernfatman posted...
He blocked me because I pointed out his hero Farrakhan and the NOI are racist.

AHHHHHH so he IS one of those types. Got it. Well, I knew he was some kind of apologist for something, thanks for the information!

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ModLogic
03/27/21 1:50:17 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
killing Muslims
something america has decades of experience in


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What_
03/27/21 1:51:17 PM
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More proxy wars ahead
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BignutzisBack
03/27/21 1:54:01 PM
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What_ posted...
More proxy wars ahead


Will Contra rise again?

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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 1:57:11 PM
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pure_temper posted...
But that's what you want, isn't it? Are you a Black Hebrew Israelite or something? Your posts are consistent with their views and goals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites

Known anti-semitic group

Everybody is an anti semite to the white supremacists. Even Martin Luther King Jr. was considered an anti semite to the white supremacists. Your false accusations only show your own insecurity. America is not the Almighty or Invincible and pointing that out doesn't mean I hate America. I'm actually concerned and am not afraid to point it out. Unlike blind worshippers such as yourself
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BignutzisBack
03/27/21 2:11:21 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Everybody is an anti semite to the white supremacists. Even Martin Luther King Jr. was considered an anti semite to the white supremacists. Your false accusations only show your own insecurity. America is not the Almighty or Invincible and pointing that out doesn't mean I hate America. I'm actually concerned and am not afraid to point it out. Unlike blind worshippers such as yourself

Are you Tony Big Pun?

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pure_temper
03/27/21 2:14:04 PM
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2Pacavelli no one cares what Black Hebrew Israelites and Farrakhan and supremacists like them have to say.

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BignutzisBack
03/27/21 2:14:53 PM
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pure_temper posted...
2Pacavelli no one cares what Black Hebrew Israelites and Farrakhan and supremacists like them have to say.

Farrakhan and his cronies more than likely had Malcolm X killed so he can go fuck himself as far as I'm concerned

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pure_temper
03/27/21 2:16:25 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Farrakhan and his cronies more than likely had Malcolm X killed so he can go fuck himself as far as I'm concerned

Because after Malcom X went to Mecca and denounced the Nation of Islam, he became a threat to their agenda. Malcom X was a visionary like MLK was, and they were speaking against really powerful (and rich) people like those.

NOI & Black Hebrew Isrealites are a supremacist movement masquerading as Judaism/Islam respectively and also masquerading as being about civil rights.

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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 2:16:26 PM
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If you dont care dont engage. I'm going to keep spreading the truth whether you like it or not
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pure_temper
03/27/21 2:17:36 PM
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I engaged you very specifically in posts 37, 38, and 39 and you failed to address those arguments. You're a dishonest person, dude. Go to Mecca sometime and stop gargling supremacist propaganda.

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Broseph_Stalin
03/27/21 2:17:56 PM
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Terrible regimes siding with each other is not new we don't need to "give them a reason" for this to happen.
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