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I4NRulez
03/12/21 9:34:41 PM
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It strikes me how much the cops haven't changed from then to today.

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RetsuZaiZen
03/12/21 9:38:55 PM
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Well yea

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Zikten
03/12/21 9:40:22 PM
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Is it good? Maybe I should watch it tonight
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RetsuZaiZen
03/12/21 9:43:16 PM
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Zikten posted...
Is it good? Maybe I should watch it tonight
It is fantastic. It comes off HBO Max on Sunday

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I4NRulez
03/12/21 9:46:32 PM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
Well yea

I mean like how openly they still do it. The same tatics. How the cops are on the speaker taunting the panthers reminded me how the NYPD were on the speaker talking about trump

Zikten posted...
Is it good? Maybe I should watch it tonight

Its really good.

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cjsdowg
03/12/21 9:46:57 PM
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Zikten posted...
Is it good? Maybe I should watch it tonight

I couldn't watch it, just another movie to show how they won.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/12/21 9:55:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
Is it good? Maybe I should watch it tonight

i liked it quite a bit, yeah. i enjoy almost all of the main cast from other things, which helps. i learned some stuff, too, which is fun.

watch it

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dummy420
03/12/21 9:59:40 PM
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It's crazy how young they were. It's a good movie and a story I knew nothing about.

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FortuneCookie
03/12/21 10:00:22 PM
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I watched it earlier today as well. It's framed in such a manner to be a commentary on the modern era.

Even so, films like BlackKklansman, Detroit, and Judas the Black Messiah honestly don't have to reach very far to make a point. At least in terms of how government and law enforcement responds, relatively little has changed since the era which saw Malcolm X, Dr. King, and Fred Hampton assassinated. (And they tried unsuccessfully to pin a murder rap on Angela Davis too.)
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CobraGT
03/14/21 9:09:26 PM
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I believe that as a film it is good. The critics agree on this. I have heard it discussed by people who knew Fred Hampton and they say that the film misses two aspects of Hampton that truly qualified him to be a leader and explain why he was a danger while other leaders equally charismatic are not a danger.

First. Hampton fought for everyone's equality.

Second. Hampton had a gentle heart.


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Zikten
03/14/21 9:13:21 PM
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The ending made me really mad. If he hadn't been murdered, Fred Hampton might have changed the world
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Kastrada
03/14/21 9:14:06 PM
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CobraGT posted...
I believe that as a film it is good. The critics agree on this. I have heard it discussed by people who knew Fred Hampton and they say that the film misses two aspects of Hampton that truly qualified him to be a leader and explain why he was a danger while other leaders equally charismatic are not a danger.

First. Hampton fought for everyone's equality.

Second. Hampton had a gentle heart.

I thought the movie showed that he was willing to fight for everyone's equality/rights.
And his gentle heart was shown with his partner and in general. He seemed like a chill, incredibly smart and driven man.

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ManaYuka
03/14/21 9:15:34 PM
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Fred Hampton united with the whites to fight for change. When you unite the races and make it rich vs poor rather than black vs white, you become a target. The rich fear the poor more than anything, and want to keep the poor fighting each other, divide and conquer.

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I4NRulez
03/14/21 9:47:09 PM
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ManaYuka posted...
Fred Hampton united with the whites to fight for change. When you unite the races and make it rich vs poor rather than black vs white, you become a target. The rich fear the poor more than anything, and want to keep the poor fighting each other, divide and conquer.

Pretty much, he was a legit good dude. Been one of my heroes in life.

It still pisses me off that he got away with it. Let Hampton die for a car

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ScazarMeltex
03/14/21 9:52:11 PM
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Zikten posted...
The ending made me really mad. If he hadn't been murdered, Fred Hampton might have changed the world
That's why they killed him.

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CobraGT
03/14/21 10:49:36 PM
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ManaYuka posted...
Fred Hampton united with the whites to fight for change. When you unite the races and make it rich vs poor rather than black vs white, you become a target. The rich fear the poor more than anything, and want to keep the poor fighting each other, divide and conquer.

Too true and the really poor white communities are a minority. For anyone who thinks that white privilege applies to all white people take a look at one of these films on the Republic Steel Memorial Day Massacre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc1uEnRAnPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr5BGT9v3rU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PyiFXj1T4o

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Returning_CEmen
03/14/21 11:06:46 PM
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Crazy how young he was
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Kastrada
03/14/21 11:30:49 PM
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CobraGT posted...
For anyone who thinks that white privilege applies to all white people take a look at one of these films on the Republic Steel Memorial Day Massacre.

That massacre doesn't disprove the point you are trying to make though?

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/15/21 12:45:59 AM
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CobraGT posted...
I believe that as a film it is good. The critics agree on this. I have heard it discussed by people who knew Fred Hampton and they say that the film misses two aspects of Hampton that truly qualified him to be a leader and explain why he was a danger while other leaders equally charismatic are not a danger.

First. Hampton fought for everyone's equality.

Second. Hampton had a gentle heart.

Both of these are two things the movie almost immediately shows.

There's a scene where they show him basically going door to door, getting other racial groups to join his cause.

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CobraGT
03/15/21 4:58:16 AM
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Kastrada posted...
That massacre doesn't disprove the point you are trying to make though?


If that massacre does not there are lots more.

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Kastrada
03/15/21 9:43:37 AM
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CobraGT posted...
If that massacre does not there are lots more. Kent State (Ohio), -- the Halsted Street Bridge and Haymarket Square were also in Chicago -- there were lots everywhere. Everywhere and if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, it does not matter who you are.

That's not what white privilege means. It doesn't mean white people are never victims to government abuse or murders.

It simply means that their race didn't play apart in their victimhood. Nothing that you has said has proved otherwise.

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lemondrop7
03/15/21 10:05:07 AM
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The story of Fred Hampton is why its hard to judge anti-white racists like Al Sharpton. Its a lot easier to criticize him in a society today where we can parse soundbytes and say someone isnt woke enough for our standards. It requires a lot more empathy to realize the complete distrust in White America by black people because our government and newspapers colluded together to drug, kill, and attempt to disgrace an expectant father and loving person for wanting to bring about equality. This is why both sides have racists falls flat to me, because until proven otherwise, the government is on 1 side still.

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averagejoel
03/15/21 10:15:14 AM
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they really focused too much on the informant. Fred Hampton was the more interesting character, and the movie was clearly about him (since it ends when he dies), but the pretense was that it was about the informant.

if you want to tell a story about Fred Hampton and the Black Panthers that paints the FBI in a negative light, all you have to do is, you know, actually tell the story of Fred Hampton and the Black Panthers

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CobraGT
03/15/21 2:03:58 PM
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Kastrada posted...
That's not what white privilege means. It doesn't mean white people are never victims to government abuse or murders.

It simply means that their race didn't play apart in their victimhood. Nothing that you has said has proved otherwise.

You are totally, completely and egregiously off

REGARDING white privilege.

White privilege is about you losing minutes of your day EVERY DAY angsting over white privilege

Take your life back.

White privilege is about (some) white people thinking the system works for them

You are better than this. You are smarter than this.

White privilege is a pretense. We should all stop falling for it.

Yes. It is real but..

The reason all of these massacres are neglected in history is that they counter the power of white privilege.

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RetsuZaiZen
03/15/21 8:02:56 PM
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^Dude, you're wrong lol

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Kastrada
03/15/21 9:19:00 PM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
^Dude, you're wrong lol


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CobraGT
03/15/21 9:26:51 PM
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None of us has the scholarly background to be correct. None of is unbiased. The obsession with white privilege is unhealthy. You are being played.

Are you familiar with the notion that "Even the devil can quote scripture"? White privilege has been around since the wholesale plundering of Africa. White privilege is a mechanism. The problem is we need control over earning a living. We need enough control that everyone can achieve his potential in work and in leisure time.

This white privilege schtick is post MLK, Fred Hampton and Malcolm X. Do you think some genius revolutionary just now thought this up and the 3 previously mentioned were not advanced enough in their thinking to focus everyone on it.

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RetsuZaiZen
03/15/21 10:10:28 PM
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Holy crap

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Kastrada
03/15/21 10:38:26 PM
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CobraGT posted...
None of us has the scholarly background to be correct.

That's a lot of assuming going on.

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CobraGT
03/16/21 3:47:54 PM
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(You may have heard this already.) The lasting impression of meeting Fred Hampton is that he radiated positivity.

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