Current Events > I really hate Shuri's flex over Tony and Banner in IW (SPOILERS)

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Compsognathus
03/10/21 6:35:41 PM
#51:


Darmik posted...
Pretty crazy that the smartest people on Earth all either got superpowers through experiments or mutations or built themselves a super powered suit.
The perks of working with bizarre cosmic forces that only the brilliant can comprehend.

Valeria has no powers though. She's just stupidly smart.

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AFrench4
03/10/21 6:36:49 PM
#52:


It's a children's movie, who cares

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ArchNemo
03/10/21 6:38:12 PM
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I don't know why people are turning this into a race thing. I mean, these types of characters and moments are always loathed by fans. It's basically what the entire Poochie episode of The Simpsons is about.

Edit: Having said that, Marvel movies are essentially made for kids and the snappy kid getting one over on the old fogeys was definitely thrown in there for them so *shrug*
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Darmik
03/10/21 6:48:22 PM
#54:


ArchNemo posted...
I don't know why people are turning this into a race thing. I mean, these types of characters and moments are always loathed by fans. It's basically what the entire Poochie episode of The Simpsons is about.

Edit: Having said that, Marvel movies are essentially made for kids and the snappy kid getting one over on the old fogeys was definitely thrown in there for them so *shrug*

Poochie was parodying TV shows that introduce 'cool and hip' characters into the main cast in an attempt to improve ratings.

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ArchNemo
03/10/21 6:52:24 PM
#55:


Darmik posted...
Poochie was parodying TV shows that introduce 'cool and hip' characters into the main cast in an attempt to improve ratings.

I guess I meant in spirit, the idea of a character who isn't established coming out of no where and one-upping fan favorites to try to make them more popular.
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IMNOTRAGED
03/10/21 7:14:01 PM
#56:


100 years ago the peak of medicine was putting goat testicles in people and cutting out pieces of people's brains. They'd have that same moment with even some random graduate student of today.

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Prestoff
03/10/21 7:23:40 PM
#57:


ChocoboMog123 posted...
Not in the comics, at least. Cho, Hank McCoy (Beast), Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Dr. Doom, Reed and Valeria Richards, and Lunella (Moon Girl) are all non-Omniscient beings generally smarter, bottom to top. Earth is f***ing stacked.
Edit: I think Shuri probably thinks herself smarter in the comics, too.

In the MCU it's been confirmed that Shuri is suppose to be the smartest person in it. But like others said, I think it is because Wakanda's tech is miles above our own plays a big role why.

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Lorenzo_2003
03/10/21 7:47:53 PM
#58:


tote_all posted...
Are people really using Wil fucking Wheaton as an standard for anything? Everyone hates him because he's Will fucking Wheaton

No way, dude.

Were you a Trekkie back then? The community fucking hated Wesley Crusher. He was mostly a smug little prick who was a prime example of the male Mary Sue, or a Gary/Marty Sue. It felt like episodes were shoehorning him into scenes that he had no business being in, let alone allowing him to save the day on several occasions.

When the actor started becoming more vocal and active as an adult, milking his Star Trek fame, it just kind of cemented the resentment a lot of people felt for him. Of course he does have his fans as well.


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1NfamousACE_2
03/10/21 7:54:01 PM
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Can we also talk about how Wakanda let Rhodey use that terrible back brace stuff yet they had the technology to help the white man Ross?

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pfh1001
03/10/21 8:48:14 PM
#60:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Can we also talk about how Wakanda let Rhodey use that terrible back brace stuff yet they had the technology to help the white man Ross?


If Wakanda really is hundreds of years more technologically advanced than the rest of the world, they're fucking assholes for not doing everything in their power to fix the environment.
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Blighboy
03/10/21 8:48:57 PM
#61:


pfh1001 posted...
If Wakanda really is hundreds of years more technologically advanced than the rest of the world, they're fucking assholes for not doing everything in their power to fix the environment.
Gee if only there was a film about this

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jumi
03/10/21 9:02:39 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
I guess I meant in spirit, the idea of a character who isn't established coming out of no where and one-upping fan favorites to try to make them more popular.

WHEN ARE THEY GONNA GET TO THE FIREWORKS FACTORY?!

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R_Jackal
03/10/21 9:20:06 PM
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Happens in literally every TV show, movie, or whatever as soon as the main cast encounters an advanced civilization fit the first time.
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ZevLoveDOOM
03/11/21 11:47:09 AM
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Shuri was one of my favorite characters in Black Panther but yeah, she came off as too cocky in Infinity War. lol
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I4NRulez
03/11/21 11:53:45 AM
#67:


In the movies and in the comics Rocket shits on Stark's intelligence all the time.

Apparently its ok for a Racoon but not a black woman lol

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Lord_Shadow_19
03/11/21 11:53:48 AM
#68:


Makeveli_lives posted...
https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/15/17692884/shuri-black-panther-mcu-tumblr-memes

Get the fuck over it. People who have a problem with this only do so either because she's black, a woman, or both.

Took a whole 8 posts before someone disingenuously cried racism.

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mybbqrules
03/11/21 12:38:46 PM
#69:


Eyeratosthenes posted...
That's just how far ahead of the curve Wakanda is. If Tony grew up in Wakanda he'd literally be that brain chair meme

https://i.imgur.com/7YSwNaY.jpg
Reminder that Tony got the tech to make his Mark-50 nano armor from Wakanda after they opened themselves up to the world at the end of Black Panther.

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Eyeratosthenes
03/11/21 12:42:06 PM
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neat, i didn't know that

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Tyranthraxus
03/11/21 12:47:37 PM
#71:


Makeveli_lives posted...
https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/15/17692884/shuri-black-panther-mcu-tumblr-memes

Get the fuck over it. People who have a problem with this only do so either because she's black, a woman, or both.

Ah yeah an article from 2 years before the pandemic totally reflects how people feel about antivaxxers today.

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mybbqrules
03/11/21 12:53:42 PM
#72:


Kisai posted...
The only reason I hate it is because of lazy writing.

"We can't do [thing]."
"Why didn't you just do this?"

Of course! Now it's completely possible. The thing the heroes have been worrying about this whole time is now instantly solved.

It's like in Endgame when Tony tells Banner that it's impossible to actually create time travel, and then later he just gets up in the middle of the night, tries something out for a few seconds and is like, "Oh my god, it's possible." What a coincidence that Tony's programs had a way to do exactly what he needed and figure out the thing he said wasn't possible in just a matter of moments. I don't think even RDJ could believe how ridiculous the writing was getting. Watch his delivery of "surprise" when he figures it out. Like even he couldn't being himself to sell this bullshit.
Actually, when Tony is "solving" time travel with Friday you can see text on the hologram that indicates he's been working on it for years up to that point. That's why he was telling Scott "it's not possible", because he'd been trying and failing.

Tony didn't just throw in 30 seconds of work after getting Pete's picture wet and solve it.

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Tyranthraxus
03/11/21 12:56:10 PM
#73:


mybbqrules posted...
Actually, when Tony is "solving" time travel with Friday you can see text on the hologram that indicates he's been working on it for years up to that point. That's why he was telling Scott "it's not possible", because he'd been trying and failing.

Tony didn't just throw in 30 seconds of work after getting Pete's picture wet and solve it.

Yeah this. Tony didn't have access to the Pym Particle and was missing a crucial piece of information he needed to solve it. Once he got it, it was easy.

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SquirtleSkwad
03/11/21 6:49:08 PM
#74:


Compsognathus posted...
We just need Reed and Doom to show up and put everyone in their place.
FUCK yes!

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SquirtleSkwad
03/11/21 6:51:59 PM
#75:


I4NRulez posted...
In the movies and in the comics Rocket shits on Stark's intelligence all the time.
No he doesn't.

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I4NRulez
03/11/21 6:53:05 PM
#76:


SquirtleSkwad posted...
No he doesn't.

In the movies not so much but in the comics he does every time they run into each other iirc. Been a while since i've read em

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PokemonYoutube
03/11/21 6:55:22 PM
#77:


SquirtleSkwad posted...
No he doesn't.
IIRC there's a moment in Endgame when they're putting the time machine together where Rocket tells Tony that he's only a genius by Earth standards.
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mech dragon
03/11/21 6:59:07 PM
#78:


Okay then stay mad, nerds

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Kastrada
03/11/21 7:05:16 PM
#79:


ZevLoveDOOM posted...
Shuri was one of my favorite characters in Black Panther but yeah, she came off as too cocky in Infinity War. lol

A unfathomably rich, teenager from a royal family? Too cocky? If anything she wasn't cocky enough.

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