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LostForest 03/10/21 10:31:36 AM #1: |
Like, I know the whole narrative that they set up for season 4 is just "War is hell" and it's trying to make you feel really sympathetic for Marley and its people but like... I'm up to Episode 7 after the shit hits the fan and everything, and the whole time I've been like a giddy schoolgirl, rooting for Eren and crew.
Like, I get that civilians were killed and that war is terrible, but idk. I spent the last 3 seasons watching these characters live in terror, so seeing them go fucking HAM on the nation which was responsible for it is really badass. Yet, from what I've seen in are circles, it seems like most of the AoT community has been the opposite. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/10/21 10:34:31 AM #2: |
No.
I think most people want Eren to kill everyone. But what makes AoT good is that it still gives you a real view of how atrocious that is even if you are rooting for it. Btw everyone hates Gabi. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PatrickMahomes 03/10/21 10:39:28 AM #3: |
Marlians: *ship off a bunch of devil people to an island and bury the entire rest of the world from them*
Paradis: *don't like that* Marlians: --- NFLB 2021 Summersim Roster (2-5): https://imgur.com/iSlti18 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 03/10/21 10:42:24 AM #4: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Btw everyone hates Gabi. Oh my God thank God I thought I was the only one. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 03/10/21 10:52:55 AM #5: |
LostForest posted...
Yet, it seems like most of the AoT community has been the opposite.That's ridiculous. Most of the fanbase is anti Marley. Like, 85%. And there's a difference between cheering for Paradis and justifying sacks of shit like Floch that deliberately target civilians. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 03/10/21 10:57:11 AM #6: |
I've been reading the manga and I'm at the point where I just want to see the resolution.
My opinion is that there is effectively no one to cheer for in this story once you reach the late stages. Almost everyone has been consumed in the cycle of violence. There are people who think they're valiant and self-sacrificing, but it's all in service to the machine of eternal conflict. As they say, it's not about who's right. It's about who's left. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/10/21 10:59:16 AM #7: |
CyricZ posted...
I've been reading the manga and I'm at the point where I just want to see the resolution. Not all fiction requires a protagonist. Sometimes it is about world building and seeing how events unfold. Don't you want to see if Eren wins or fails? Whether you want him to or not. But anyways probably they gonna make us cheer for Historia, Levi or Mikasa in the end. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Legato-and-Vash 03/10/21 11:04:44 AM #8: |
I don't think I've ever felt sympathetic for Marley. Especially when you look at Gabi. In a "she's this way because of Marley" sense.
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CyricZ 03/10/21 11:06:17 AM #9: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Not all fiction requires a protagonist. Sometimes it is about world building and seeing how events unfold.My post stands. I definitely want to see the resolution and what comes of all this. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 03/10/21 11:09:40 AM #10: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
That's ridiculous. Most of the fanbase is anti Marley. Like, 85%. I edited my post to reflect that it's what I've seen anecdotally. My bad. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 03/10/21 11:15:07 AM #11: |
Legato-and-Vash posted...
I don't think I've ever felt sympathetic for Marley. Especially when you look at Gabi. In a "she's this way because of Marley" sense. Marely are basically supposed to be Nazis. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 03/10/21 11:17:16 AM #12: |
I'm waiting on Gabi's character to develop and change. If that never happens then I'll hate her forever
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CyricZ 03/10/21 11:55:19 AM #13: |
WingsOfGood posted...
Marely are basically supposed to be Nazis.It's a bit more complicated than that (vague manga spoilers because this is historical stuff that I don't remember exactly when it was revealed). I took a look at the latest episode synopsis so I can see where the anime is compared to the manga and it's not quite to the point where we should be discussing without tags what comes after the opening assault on Marley, but let's just say even at that point in the manga I was having serious reservations about "cheering for Paradis". But then that makes sense: up to this arc in the series, the entire story has been about "we need to defeat the Titans and find the truth about our world" and the truth, of course, ends up making everything far more complicated rather than simple, which is a stroke that I like. I just hope it can stick the landing. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 03/10/21 12:28:53 PM #14: |
CyricZ posted...
I was having serious reservations about "cheering for Paradis". That's more or less what I'm getting at. I know the point of the plot right now is to make it complicated, and make you question who's really the "good guys". But like I can't help but say fuck it and just want Paradis to fuck everybody up because it's a product of how the story was told. I know those characters better and know their plight better, therefore I don't care what they do to get revenge lol. Also this isn't me criticizing the writing by any means, I think it's great. It's more of a matter on my own preference for plots to not be morally grey, hence why this is a generic "Am I the only one who?" topic lol. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 12:37:53 PM #15: |
If you rooting for Erin you in the wrong...the whole totally not jews thing falls apart when they actually have superpowers and actively want to kill everyone that isn't from their island. Rememeber folks Marco and that one kids mom are the only ones that didn't do anything wrong, The Warriors did a lot of wrong shit but did it to survive, The Warriors candidates are actively brainwashed child soliders, and Eren never changed just gained more knowledge.
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CyricZ 03/10/21 12:45:04 PM #16: |
ZeroX91 posted...
that one kids momMy favorite character. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 03/10/21 12:47:03 PM #17: |
Gabi is just a brainwashed kid who's entire worldview is based on a lie. She's just like Eren with her thirst for revenge. Both her and Reiner are the most interesting characters in the show right now.
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 12:47:26 PM #18: |
CyricZ posted...
My favorite character.At the orphanage..it's a good scene. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 03/10/21 12:49:07 PM #19: |
I still want to see what role Annie plays in all of this
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 12:49:56 PM #20: |
Trelve posted...
Gabi is just a brainwashed kid who's entire worldview is based on a lie. She's just like Eren with her thirst for revenge. Both her and Reiner are the most interesting characters in the show right now.Yup. The hate for Gabi is dumb. She is just Eren with boobs and Shashas face. Falco is like a Riner Armin hybrid, I like him too. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 03/10/21 12:50:19 PM #21: |
Trelve posted...
Gabi is just a brainwashed kid who's entire worldview is based on a lie. She's just like Eren with her thirst for revenge. Both her and Reiner are the most interesting characters in the show right now.I'm with you on Reiner. Dude's pretty much a deuteragonist in the arc. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 12:55:38 PM #22: |
Super spoilers.
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CyricZ 03/10/21 12:58:21 PM #23: |
ZeroX91 posted...
spoilers. To be fair. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 1:00:40 PM #24: |
CyricZ posted...
To be fair. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 03/10/21 1:07:18 PM #25: |
ZeroX91 posted...
Hang on. Is this something post Chapter 130? That's as far as I am (the English release). --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 1:11:09 PM #26: |
CyricZ posted...
Hang on. Is this something post Chapter 130? That's as far as I am (the English release).Maybe? --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 03/10/21 1:18:17 PM #27: |
Oh okay no that's been established for a while, or at least since the Marley arc began.
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LostForest 03/10/21 1:44:17 PM #28: |
ZeroX91 posted...
Yup. The hate for Gabi is dumb. She is just Eren with boobs and Shashas face. Falco is like a Riner Armin hybrid, I like him too. No tho? Eren's thirst for revenge was fueled by watching his hometown get fucking stomped, his house being destroyed, and his mother getting killed in front of his eyes. Gabi's is just fueled by propaganda, unless they give her some sort of tragic backstory. Either way, the hate is justified since people hate Eren too lol. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 03/10/21 2:05:38 PM #29: |
LostForest posted...
Eren's thirst for revenge was fueled by watching his hometown get fucking stomped, his house being destroyed, and his mother getting killed in front of his eyes.Don't forget his negotiation with Mikasa's kidnappers lol. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Legato-and-Vash 03/10/21 3:11:12 PM #30: |
Eh, I think Gabi is already unforgivable. Especially with how she took joy in it. Falco is much more sensible.
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 3:20:05 PM #31: |
LostForest posted...
No tho?And seeing her home town flatten and he friends right in front of her eyes. They the same character placed in different circumstances. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 03/10/21 3:38:31 PM #32: |
ZeroX91 posted...
And seeing her home town flatten and he friends right in front of her eyes. They the same character placed in different circumstances. Nah, they're opposites. Gabi was angry, vicious, and a skilled fighter, actively participating in combat before that incident. Eren wasn't interested in fighting or anything until his mother died. And even after that, he sucked at everything until he got the ultimate plot-armor. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 03/10/21 4:00:20 PM #33: |
LostForest posted...
Eren wasn't interested in fighting or anything until his mother died.I once again reference the Mikasa kidnappers. Maybe he didn't want to join up with the military, but Eren is no stranger to using violence. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 4:11:25 PM #34: |
LostForest posted...
Nah, they're opposites. LostForest posted... Nah, they're opposites. LostForest posted... Nah, they're opposites. LostForest posted... Nah, they're opposites. LostForest posted... Nah, they're opposites. LostForest posted... Nah, they're opposites.Eren wasn't interested in fighting...you might wanna reread/watch man ... Why the fuck does my tablet keep doing that? Only pressed quote once. :\ --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LostForest 03/10/21 5:01:39 PM #35: |
ZeroX91 posted...
Eren wasn't interested in fighting...you might wanna reread/watch man CyricZ posted... I once again reference the Mikasa kidnappers. Maybe he didn't want to join up with the military, but Eren is no stranger to using violence. I guess I should. I mostly just remember that he didn't want to join the military and fight the titans. Also, like I said, he was a loser. Gabi is good at everything, it's key to her character. --- ForestLogic alt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 03/10/21 5:04:21 PM #36: |
LostForest posted...
I guess I should. I mostly just remember that he didn't want to join the military and fight the titans. Also, like I said, he was a loser. Gabi is good at everything, it's key to her character.I mean she also is a Mikasa but that makes Falco an Eren which he isn't dude is a good lad --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChrisTaka 03/10/21 8:58:15 PM #37: |
LostForest posted...
I guess I should. I mostly just remember that he didn't want to join the military and fight the titans. You're half right, he wanted to join the military but mostly because he wanted to see outside the walls https://youtu.be/NeO9leQBcFk His mom dying was just the final nail in the coffin. --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? *thinking emoji* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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