Current Events > Overpopulation is a non issue Global Population projected to decline after 2064

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2Pacavelli
03/03/21 6:18:47 PM
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Researchers today are concerned that people, especially the young generation in America is having too few babies.

They projected a baby boom by the December 2020 but there was actually a baby bust and steep decline of 7%.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/birth-rate-declining-younger-generations-crisis/?__twitter_impression=true

Biologist Paul Ehrlich once explained the threat as "The Population Bomb," the title of a book he authored in 1968.
"Sometime in the next 15 years, the end will come and by the end, I mean an utter breakdown of the capacity of the planet to support humanity," he said in a 1970 broadcast.

Today, however, a very different note is struck by researchers like University of Southern California Professor Dowell Myers, who studies demographic trends.

"The trouble is we overshot and we dropped it down too much now," Myers told "CBS This Morning" co-host Tony Dokoupil.

While the global population is still growing, a major study published in The Lancet in 2020 predicted it would peak in 2064, and then fall by nearly a billion people by the end of the century the reason being, fewer babies.

The U.S. is already below the so-called "replacement level" by some measures, meaning fewer young people to support the country's otherwise aging population.

Myers said of the decline, "That's a crisis."

"We need to have enough working-age people to carry the load of these seniors, who deserve their retirement, they deserve all their entitlements, and they're gonna live out another 30 years," he said. "Nobody in the history of the globe has had so many older people to deal with."

The coronavirus pandemic is also making the problem worse despite what some people previously thought.
"We thought, oh, we would see a baby boom. But we just haven't seen it," said Dr. David Jaspan, chair of the Department of Gynecology and Obstetrics at Einstein Medical Center in Philadelphia.

Apparently the Global Population is set to begin declining after 2064.

Also the USA is below replacement level and the researchers feel that this is an upcoming population crisis because there will not be enough young people to work and sustain the economy

They feel they overshot their projections in their attempts to limit the "overpopulation" bomb
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Questionmarktarius
03/03/21 6:20:27 PM
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It turns out the best form of population control there's ever been, is a decent standard of living.
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2Pacavelli
03/03/21 6:21:00 PM
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200715150444.htm

World population projected to peak at 9.7 Billion in 2064 and then start declining. Up to 1 billion lower by 2100
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LastTomorrow
03/03/21 6:21:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure covid made sure of that

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RadiantJoyrock
03/03/21 6:22:55 PM
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LastTomorrow posted...
I'm pretty sure covid made sure of that
Covid is a drop in the bucket compared to the total population.
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Master_Bass
03/03/21 6:23:44 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The coronavirus pandemic is also making the problem worse despite what some people previously thought.
"We thought, oh, we would see a baby boom. But we just haven't seen it,"
Lmao who wants to have a kid in the middle of a pandemic?

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Questionmarktarius
03/03/21 6:24:57 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
Lmao who wants to have a kid in the middle of a pandemic?
If you're stuck at home for a year, it just sorta happens.
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2Pacavelli
03/03/21 6:25:20 PM
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What's funny is these researchers must have thought since everyone was locked in, people would start having babies en mass all of a sudden. It's funny how simple minded they think there masses are

Most people probably aren't trying to have children during these trying times
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AdrianBeterson
03/03/21 6:25:45 PM
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Good. Put more children into schools, empower girls, improve living conditions and increase access to healthcare. That is the best form of birth control available.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
03/03/21 6:26:35 PM
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yeah Bill Gate said it's really only the poor places contributing to overpopulation because parents feel the need to get a ton of kids to support them in old age and many of them don't make it. So as those places advance more and more, the population will decline.

Populations in most 1st world don't have that issue

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gamestunner
03/03/21 6:28:20 PM
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Yeah already got 2 kids. No plans for another until I buy a house.
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Master_Bass
03/03/21 6:28:27 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If you're stuck at home for a year, it just sorta happens.
That's why you use protection, though, to try your best to prevent it. Apparently people have been since there's no boom. Could be people just aren't having sex as well.

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FL81
03/03/21 6:29:19 PM
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When are people going to finally realize that Malthus was wrong the whole time?

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pure_temper
03/03/21 6:29:21 PM
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Yup. We really need to make more people and bring more immigrants in. Need to have as many empowered Americans as possible.

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pure_temper
03/03/21 6:29:47 PM
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FL81 posted...
When are people going to finally realize that Malthus was wrong the whole time?

soon. Elon Musk talked about this recently on Joe Rogan. We need to produce more ppl, not less

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On_The_Edge
03/03/21 6:30:02 PM
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FL81 posted...
When are people going to finally realize that Malthus was wrong the whole time?

Always has been
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Arcanine2009
03/03/21 6:30:17 PM
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I mean, covid helped ruined things with job less and deaths. hard to say what will happen. I do think the u.s. is moving in the direction of having 2 kids or less though. a lot has to do with high cost of living

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Jiek_Fafn
03/03/21 6:32:54 PM
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So as jobs dissappear, the population is adjusting as well? That actually sounds perfect

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Hop103
03/03/21 6:34:19 PM
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We need that decline though, otherwise climate change will surely destroy us.
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Frizzurd
03/03/21 6:35:41 PM
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We can make more people once there is enough love to go around.

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pure_temper
03/03/21 6:39:13 PM
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Hop103 posted...
We need that decline though, otherwise climate change will surely destroy us.

climate change is a systemic issue because of Big Oil profit / fossil fuel addiction

it is not meaningfully a function of population size

at least not at 8 billion people

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Questionmarktarius
03/03/21 7:45:44 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
Could be people just aren't having sex as well.
That could very well also be related to being stuck home for a year.
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Alucard188
03/03/21 7:48:40 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It turns out the best form of population control there's ever been, is a decent standard of living.


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Lonestar2000
03/03/21 7:49:59 PM
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Nah, there are too many damn people in the world. Look how bad traffic is in any major city.

2Pacavelli posted...
"We need to have enough working-age people to carry the load of these seniors, who deserve their retirement, they deserve all their entitlements, and they're gonna live out another 30 years," he said. "Nobody in the history of the globe has had so many older people to deal with."
Who gives a shit, it's not my job to support them by having kids.

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Lonestar2000
03/03/21 7:51:31 PM
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Also, the is system is broken if less people being born means it fails.

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Hexenherz
03/03/21 7:52:45 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

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BidenSyriaBomba
03/03/21 8:30:23 PM
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We'll see

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Giblet_Enjoyer
03/03/21 8:30:37 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Researchers today are concerned that people, especially the young generation in America is having too few babies.

They projected a baby boom by the December 2020 but there was actually a baby bust and steep decline of 7%.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/birth-rate-declining-younger-generations-crisis/?__twitter_impression=true

Biologist Paul Ehrlich once explained the threat as "The Population Bomb," the title of a book he authored in 1968.
"Sometime in the next 15 years, the end will come and by the end, I mean an utter breakdown of the capacity of the planet to support humanity," he said in a 1970 broadcast.

Today, however, a very different note is struck by researchers like University of Southern California Professor Dowell Myers, who studies demographic trends.

"The trouble is we overshot and we dropped it down too much now," Myers told "CBS This Morning" co-host Tony Dokoupil.

While the global population is still growing, a major study published in The Lancet in 2020 predicted it would peak in 2064, and then fall by nearly a billion people by the end of the century the reason being, fewer babies.

The U.S. is already below the so-called "replacement level" by some measures, meaning fewer young people to support the country's otherwise aging population.

Myers said of the decline, "That's a crisis."

"We need to have enough working-age people to carry the load of these seniors, who deserve their retirement, they deserve all their entitlements, and they're gonna live out another 30 years," he said. "Nobody in the history of the globe has had so many older people to deal with."

The coronavirus pandemic is also making the problem worse despite what some people previously thought.
"We thought, oh, we would see a baby boom. But we just haven't seen it," said Dr. David Jaspan, chair of the Department of Gynecology and Obstetrics at Einstein Medical Center in Philadelphia.

Apparently the Global Population is set to begin declining after 2064.

Also the USA is below replacement level and the researchers feel that this is an upcoming population crisis because there will not be enough young people to work and sustain the economy

They feel they overshot their projections in their attempts to limit the "overpopulation" bomb
Saying that overpopulation isn't a problem because it'll begin declining after reaching 10 billion is like saying global warming isn't a problem because it'll start cooling after Earth's average temperature reaches 200 degrees celsius.

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