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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:06:10 PM
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I heard this song recently and the plot got me confused.

So in the song, the character (who I assume is Avril) rejects the boy because he's an unpopular sk8ter boi. Years later, as an abandoned single mother, she sees him in concert and now he's popular and everyone loves him, so she regrets not choosing him many years ago.

Then the narration shifts to a girl telling her "well tough luck, that boy's mine now", essentially saying she saw in him what this girl couldn't see in him back in high school. And now this girl gets to go with him to his concerts and they write a song together about the original girl's poor choices.

So is this new girl a completely new character with a perspective shift mid-song? Is she the original girl's made-up fantasy character of who she could have been had she accepted him? Or is the original girl the made up one, and this new girl is just writing a song about how horrible her life could have gone if she didn't choose him?

And on that note, what is the message of this song? Date the unpopular guy in high school because he will be popular later when it matters? The only thing that changed is that he became famous. Kinda goes against the "There is more than meets the eye" message if you are still judging him by superficial, external measures. What if he's a horrible person? <_<

These are the important questions I ponder during downtime at work.

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Fam_Fam
03/03/21 4:07:04 PM
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its a dumb fun song, dont overthink it
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MICHALECOLE
03/03/21 4:07:33 PM
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If you watch the video youll see that the initial girl is one person, and Avril is the second person who gets him in the end
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Veggeta X
03/03/21 4:07:52 PM
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What more can I say?

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_MorningStar
03/03/21 4:08:08 PM
#5:


Girl 1 is not Avril.
Girl 2 is Avril and happy ever after.

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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:08:24 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
If you watch the video youll see that the initial girl is one person, and Avril is the second person who gets him in the end
Oh lol, I forgot that music videos are a thing. Never saw that one, I guess that would have answered the question.

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Hexenherz
03/03/21 4:08:28 PM
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she's like
so whatever

obvi

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MICHALECOLE
03/03/21 4:08:41 PM
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I thought it was more strange that shes writing and singing a song about the girl her boyfriend initially wanted to be with. Like let him sing that song you dont need to sing a song about your mans old crush
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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:08:56 PM
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Though that still leaves my other point:

Zanzenburger posted...
And on that note, what is the message of this song? Date the unpopular guy in high school because he will be popular later when it matters? The only thing that changed is that he became famous. Kinda goes against the "There is more than meets the eye" message if you are still judging him by superficial, external measures. What if he's a horrible person? <_<


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SquirtleSkwad
03/03/21 4:09:08 PM
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The first girl was never Avril.

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Hexenherz
03/03/21 4:09:42 PM
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the first girl was the Avrils we made along the way

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nothanks1
03/03/21 4:09:44 PM
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No.
The girl in question isn't her. She's the boy (or at least she hopes to be).
The point of the song is she was basically the skater boy in that she was an actual skater and she ended up not being happy in school and now she's the the skater boy but just longing for her partner
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_MorningStar
03/03/21 4:10:44 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...
Though that still leaves my other point:
She gets with him before he is famous. The moral of the story is you rejected him because he was different and now he is popular, so you go to his show.

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Choco
03/03/21 4:10:46 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I thought it was more strange that shes writing and singing a song about the girl her boyfriend initially wanted to be with. Like let him sing that song you dont need to sing a song about your mans old crush
maybe she has a cuckquean fetish

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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:10:55 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I thought it was more strange that shes writing and singing a song about the girl her boyfriend initially wanted to be with. Like let him sing that song you dont need to sing a song about your mans old crush
True, that sounds like insecurity.

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MICHALECOLE
03/03/21 4:11:24 PM
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Choco posted...
maybe she has a cuckquean fetish
But shes still fucking the dude so its not really cuck.. I guess its like emotional cuck
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divot1338
03/03/21 4:11:49 PM
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The mistake you made was in thinking that a teenage girl exhibited either rational thought or made reasoned decisions.

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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:11:56 PM
#18:


nothanks1 posted...
No.
The girl in question isn't her. She's the boy (or at least she hopes to be).
The point of the song is she was basically the skater boy in that she was an actual skater and she ended up not being happy in school and now she's the the skater boy but just longing for her partner
Well this sure is a unique take.

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nothanks1
03/03/21 4:12:10 PM
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The message of the song is that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
The whole message is she did ballet, her friends didn't like him and she stuck up her nose at his baggy clothes. He wasn't in 'her league' because she judged him based on his one interest that her friends thought was so bad and she let them decide her life and now she's missing out on the boy that man could be because she couldn't see past more than meets the eye
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divot1338
03/03/21 4:12:37 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...
Well this sure is a unique take.
The title is Skater Boi.

Damn the answer was in front of us the whole time.

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_MorningStar
03/03/21 4:12:58 PM
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divot1338 posted...
The mistake you made was in thinking that a teenage girl exhibited either rational thought or made reasoned decisions.
He said in a puff of cheeto dust

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nothanks1
03/03/21 4:12:58 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...

Well this sure is a unique take.

The lyrics are about her being the boy's new girlfriend but I always thought it was about her being the boy since an interview I read when the song came out said she was the unpopular punk into skating in school
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SPE
03/03/21 4:13:14 PM
#23:


Zanzenburger posted...
I heard this song recently and the plot got me confused.

So in the song, the character (who I assume is Avril) rejects the boy because he's an unpopular sk8ter boi. Years later, as an abandoned single mother, she sees him in concert and now he's popular and everyone loves him, so she regrets not choosing him many years ago.

Then the narration shifts to a girl telling her "well tough luck, that boy's mine now", essentially saying she saw in him what this girl couldn't see in him back in high school. And now this girl gets to go with him to his concerts and they write a song together about the original girl's poor choices.

So is this new girl a completely new character with a perspective shift mid-song? Is she the original girl's made-up fantasy character of who she could have been had she accepted him? Or is the original girl the made up one, and this new girl is just writing a song about how horrible her life could have gone if she didn't choose him?

And on that note, what is the message of this song? Date the unpopular guy in high school because he will be popular later when it matters? The only thing that changed is that he became famous. Kinda goes against the "There is more than meets the eye" message if you are still judging him by superficial, external measures. What if he's a horrible person? <_<

These are the important questions I ponder during downtime at work.

nope, I think Avril is the scene girl that gave the sk8r boi a chance and then he became famous, and she is making fun of the stuck up girl he used to like who looked down on him @Zanzenburger

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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:13:39 PM
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divot1338 posted...
The mistake you made was in thinking that a teenage girl exhibited either rational thought or made reasoned decisions.
Touche.


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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:16:57 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
The message of the song is that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
The whole message is she did ballet, her friends didn't like him and she stuck up her nose at his baggy clothes. He wasn't in 'her league' because she judged him based on his one interest that her friends thought was so bad and she let them decide her life and now she's missing out on the boy that man could be because she couldn't see past more than meets the eye
It's really hard reading this post without hearing Avril singing it in my head.

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nothanks1
03/03/21 4:17:32 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...
It's really hard reading this post without hearing Avril singing it in my head.

I was quoting lyrics to strengthen my argument
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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:18:22 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
I was quoting lyrics to strengthen my argument
Oh, I completely get it. It just goes from reading your post to hearing the song to right back to your post. It's kinda bizarre. But it makes sense.

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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:18:42 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
Apparently she could have, lol
+1

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TheMikh
03/03/21 4:18:58 PM
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SPE posted...
nope, I think Avril is the scene girl that gave the sk8r boi a chance and then he became famous, and she is making fun of the stuck up girl he used to like who looked down on him

my thoughts exactly

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sktgamer_13dude
03/03/21 4:19:03 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...
Though that still leaves my other point:

Message is to not care what your friends think about someone based off looks/hobbies alone.

Remember, she secretly wanted him as well but didnt go for it because her friends didnt like him. They only started to like him when he became famous.
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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 4:19:52 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Message is to not care what your friends think about someone based off looks/hobbies alone.

Remember, she secretly wanted him as well but didnt go for it because her friends didnt like him. They only started to like him when he became famous.
Good point.

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eston
03/03/21 4:23:34 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
No.
The girl in question isn't her. She's the boy (or at least she hopes to be).
The point of the song is she was basically the skater boy in that she was an actual skater and she ended up not being happy in school and now she's the the skater boy but just longing for her partner
Suddenly the tie makes sense

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Veggeta X
03/03/21 4:29:10 PM
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she had a crush on the skater boi, but her high-horse ballet identity and clique made her act prudish instead. her vanity prevented her from stepping outside her identity comfort zone. what's more, it is suggested that MTV type alternative individuals are more likely to act on their human feelings and remain above the fray of clique tribalism. which of course conflates MTV/skater/punk groups and forwards punk clique propaganda.

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Zanzenburger
03/03/21 8:02:41 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
she had a crush on the skater boi, but her high-horse ballet identity and clique made her act prudish instead. her vanity prevented her from stepping outside her identity comfort zone. what's more, it is suggested that MTV type alternative individuals are more likely to act on their human feelings and remain above the fray of clique tribalism. which of course conflates MTV/skater/punk groups and forwards punk clique propaganda.
Is this is Aramaic translation?

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Slayer_22
03/03/21 8:18:45 PM
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This always bugged me. Why is she so salty about a girl who didn't get her man?
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SPE
03/03/21 9:34:08 PM
#38:


Slayer_22 posted...
This always bugged me. Why is she so salty about a girl who didn't get her man?

because she is all about sk8r culture and anti-preppy like the other girl (in this song)

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Middle hope
03/03/21 9:36:17 PM
#39:


"He was a boy
She was a girl
Could it be anymore obvious"

Lyrics that wouldn't fly in this, the year of our Lord 2021

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fan357
03/03/21 9:36:19 PM
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She said see you later boi.

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furb
03/03/21 9:38:12 PM
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SquirtleSkwad posted...
The first girl was never Avril.

This it is obvious by the last verse

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SPE
03/03/21 9:40:11 PM
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Can we talk about how she went from fake scene girl / sk8r rad chick with dark girl to ultra girly blonde hair hello kitty girl in a couple records?

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MICHALECOLE
03/03/21 9:40:38 PM
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SPE posted...
Can we talk about how she went from fake scene girl / sk8r rad chick with dark girl to ultra girly blonde hair hello kitty girl in a couple records?
People change their look a lot when theyre 18
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furb
03/03/21 9:42:38 PM
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Yeah like it is obvious. Avril liked him for him and is with him. If not Avril, it is the song's narrator.

The first popular girl liked him for real. But her concerns about how it looks and peer pressure makes her end it. She settles for somebody else and isn't happy. Her friends find out the first boy is famous and now think he is cool. The goes to the show with them.

Point of the song is a mix of be true to yourself and don't worry about what people think.

This is seriously a simple song lyric wise.

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Slayer_22
03/03/21 9:43:54 PM
#45:


SPE posted...


because she is all about sk8r culture and anti-preppy like the other girl (in this song)

Sounds kinda bitchy to brag to someone when they're down in the dumps though.
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DD Divine
03/03/21 9:44:20 PM
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Is Chad Kroger the skater boi?

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fuming
03/03/21 9:49:37 PM
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The first girl is the original avril and the second one is the clone, duh.
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mech dragon
03/03/21 9:59:19 PM
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To understand this story of Sk8ter Boi, you need to understand that Avril was marketed as a punk rock alternative girl, and that the girl in the song who rejected Sk8ter Boi was a popular mainstream girl. As many others have pointed out already, Girl 1 is not Avril. Avril is Girl 2 who realizes Sk8tr boi's worth because she sees the soul that is inside!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjk2TGjXjeM

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mech dragon
03/03/21 10:00:28 PM
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DD Divine posted...
Is Chad Kroger the skater boi?
It's more likely Deryck Whibley but the song predates both of those marriages/relatonships.

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SPE
03/03/21 10:05:09 PM
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mech dragon posted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjk2TGjXjeM

that was cringe worthy. Did people ever buy it?

this is her like 12 years later lol:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2oDXH5F7VkE


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