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Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 1:51:19 PM #1:	If you're the plaintiff trying to sue, In most cases it seems pointless because, sure you might win the lawsuit, but lawyer fees will get in the way of your earnings and you will probably break even, best case scenario. Why sue if you're going to be paying a shit ton of money back to your lawyer? If you're the defendant and being accused of a crime, then sure, I can see the reason to hire a lawyer. But even then, would you rather pay $50,000 or do a year in jail? If you're facing murder charges, then yeah by all means hire you're a lawyer. But seems like doing jail time, unless it's an absurdly high amount of time, is the cheaper option than hiring a lawyer. What do you guys think? --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148690] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>If you're the plaintiff trying to sue, In most cases it seems pointless because, sure you might win the lawsuit, but lawyer fees will get in the way of your earnings and you will probably break even, best case scenario. Why sue if you're going to be paying a shit ton of money back to your lawyer? If you're the defendant and being accused of a crime, then sure, I can see the reason to hire a lawyer. But even then, would you rather pay $50,000 or do a year in jail? If you're facing murder charges, then yeah by all means hire you're a lawyer. But seems like doing jail time, unless it's an absurdly high amount of time, is the cheaper option than hiring a lawyer. What do you guys think?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yunalenne10 02/27/21 1:53:05 PM #2:	Justice and self-satisfaction. --- "The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it." - Rule 43 <cite>yunalenne10 posted [p:951148726] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Justice and self-satisfaction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 1:53:50 PM #3:	yunalenne10 posted... Justice and self-satisfaction. For me that's not worth it --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148749] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>yunalenne10 posted...</cite> <quote>Justice and self-satisfaction. </quote> For me that's not worth it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yunalenne10 02/27/21 1:54:37 PM #4:	Chunkey Simmons posted... For me that's not worth it Well, that's your view. I've been successful with my lawyers. --- "The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it." - Rule 43 <cite>yunalenne10 posted [p:951148770] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>For me that's not worth it</quote>Well, that's your view. I've been successful with my lawyers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ktownslayer16 02/27/21 1:55:33 PM #5:	Chunkey Simmons posted... But seems like doing jail time, unless it's an absurdly high amount of time, is the cheaper option than hiring a lawyer Yea no shit. Doesn't mean you'd rather do a year in jail. --- Fire Pierre Dorion <cite>ktownslayer16 posted [p:951148795] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>But seems like doing jail time, unless it's an absurdly high amount of time, is the cheaper option than hiring a lawyer</quote> Yea no shit. Doesn't mean you'd rather do a year in jail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 1:56:39 PM #6:	yunalenne10 posted... Chunkey Simmons posted... For me that's not worth it Well, that's your view. I've been successful with my lawyers. That just seems like pride to me. You just want to feel good about "winning" My view of winning is saving my money --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148819] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>yunalenne10 posted...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote> For me that's not worth it</quote>Well, that's your view. I've been successful with my lawyers. </quote> That just seems like pride to me. You just want to feel good about "winning" My view of winning is saving my money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 02/27/21 1:57:11 PM #7:	Chunkey Simmons posted... But even then, would you rather pay $50,000 or do a year in jail? People forget that time is more precious than money. It's sad. That's why people like TC still go to work when they're 80 even though they're already rich. Dumb. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:951148831] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>But even then, would you rather pay $50,000 or do a year in jail?</quote>People forget that time is more precious than money. It's sad. That's why people like TC still go to work when they're 80 even though they're already rich. Dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 1:57:19 PM #8:	ktownslayer16 posted... Chunkey Simmons posted... But seems like doing jail time, unless it's an absurdly high amount of time, is the cheaper option than hiring a lawyer Yea no shit. Doesn't mean you'd rather do a year in jail. True. That is easier said than done. Maybe if I were facing a year in jail, I would want to defend myself in court. I have no argument against that --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148836] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>ktownslayer16 posted...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote> But seems like doing jail time, unless it's an absurdly high amount of time, is the cheaper option than hiring a lawyer</quote> Yea no shit. Doesn't mean you'd rather do a year in jail. </quote> True. That is easier said than done. Maybe if I were facing a year in jail, I would want to defend myself in court. I have no argument against that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yunalenne10 02/27/21 1:57:46 PM #9:	Chunkey Simmons posted... That just seems like pride to me. You just want to feel good about "winning" My view of winning is saving my money By "successful", I do also mean winning money rather than owing. --- "The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it." - Rule 43 <cite>yunalenne10 posted [p:951148843] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>That just seems like pride to me. You just want to feel good about "winning" My view of winning is saving my money</quote>By "successful", I do also mean winning money rather than owing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 02/27/21 1:59:04 PM #10:	yunalenne10 posted... By "successful", I do also mean winning money rather than owing. Even a ten year old would have understood this. As money hungry as TC seems to be, even he missed it. Wow. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:951148875] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>yunalenne10 posted... </cite> <quote>By "successful", I do also mean winning money rather than owing.</quote>Even a ten year old would have understood this. As money hungry as TC seems to be, even he missed it. Wow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 1:59:07 PM #11:	AzurexNightmare posted... Chunkey Simmons posted... But even then, would you rather pay $50,000 or do a year in jail? People forget that time is more precious than money. It's sad. That's why people like TC still go to work when they're 80 even though they're already rich. Dumb. I would gladly give a year of my life away if it meant not blowing a shit ton of money. It would mean a living until you're 79 instead of 80. Not a big deal. --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148876] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>AzurexNightmare posted...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote> But even then, would you rather pay $50,000 or do a year in jail?</quote>People forget that time is more precious than money. It's sad. That's why people like TC still go to work when they're 80 even though they're already rich. Dumb. </quote> I would gladly give a year of my life away if it meant not blowing a shit ton of money. It would mean a living until you're 79 instead of 80. Not a big deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 02/27/21 2:00:30 PM #12:	That year in jail is a year of freedom at base, and your life disrupted and a permanent mark on your record. Other reasons might be punishment of someone who committed a crime rather than letting him go. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump https://RightWingWatch.org https://reddit.com/r/BreadTube https://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:951148922] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>That year in jail is a year of freedom at base, and your life disrupted and a permanent mark on your record. Other reasons might be punishment of someone who committed a crime rather than letting him go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 2:01:54 PM #13:	Notti posted... That year in jail is a year of freedom at base, and your life disrupted and a permanent mark on your record. Other reasons might be punishment of someone who committed a crime rather than letting him go. This is a very good point, it's definitely worth getting a lawyer if you don't want to affecting your permanent record. that is another reason why getting a lawyer may not be worth it, because it's a gamble. Imagine paying for a lawyer and losing. Then you're still getting a year in jail and paying out the ass in lawyer fees. --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148956] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>That year in jail is a year of freedom at base, and your life disrupted and a permanent mark on your record. Other reasons might be punishment of someone who committed a crime rather than letting him go.</quote> This is a very good point, it's definitely worth getting a lawyer if you don't want to affecting your permanent record. that is another reason why getting a lawyer may not be worth it, because it's a gamble. Imagine paying for a lawyer and losing. Then you're still getting a year in jail and paying out the ass in lawyer fees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 2:03:09 PM #14:	AzurexNightmare posted... yunalenne10 posted... By "successful", I do also mean winning money rather than owing. Even a ten year old would have understood this. As money hungry as TC seems to be, even he missed it. Wow. I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you win $50,000 (random number) in a case. It's not really going to be that great of an earning if you have to pay your lawyer $50,000 as well. If you win a lot more then what the lawyer fees are, then sure it's definitely worth it. But how often does that happen? And then the other question is, what if you lose. You still have to pay those lawyer fees. So then you're actually owing money. --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951148980] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>AzurexNightmare posted...</cite> <quote> yunalenne10 posted... </cite> <quote> By "successful", I do also mean winning money rather than owing. </quote>Even a ten year old would have understood this. As money hungry as TC seems to be, even he missed it. Wow. </quote> I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you win $50,000 (random number) in a case. It's not really going to be that great of an earning if you have to pay your lawyer $50,000 as well. If you win a lot more then what the lawyer fees are, then sure it's definitely worth it. But how often does that happen? And then the other question is, what if you lose. You still have to pay those lawyer fees. So then you're actually owing money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 02/27/21 2:03:21 PM #15:	Chunkey Simmons posted... If you're the plaintiff trying to sue, In most cases it seems pointless because, sure you might win the lawsuit, but lawyer fees will get in the way of your earnings and you will probably break even, best case scenario. This is pretty much just not true. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:951148990] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>If you're the plaintiff trying to sue, In most cases it seems pointless because, sure you might win the lawsuit, but lawyer fees will get in the way of your earnings and you will probably break even, best case scenario. </quote> This is pretty much just not true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chunkey Simmons 02/27/21 2:05:44 PM #16:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Chunkey Simmons posted... If you're the plaintiff trying to sue, In most cases it seems pointless because, sure you might win the lawsuit, but lawyer fees will get in the way of your earnings and you will probably break even, best case scenario. This is pretty much just not true. I don't have any exact figures on hand, so I can't confirm or deny this --- The n00b of MBH and CE - and proud of it! President Chunkey Simmons, running for 2016. <cite>Chunkey Simmons posted [p:951149079] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote> If you're the plaintiff trying to sue, In most cases it seems pointless because, sure you might win the lawsuit, but lawyer fees will get in the way of your earnings and you will probably break even, best case scenario. </quote> This is pretty much just not true. </quote> I don't have any exact figures on hand, so I can't confirm or deny this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yunalenne10 02/27/21 2:07:02 PM #17:	Chunkey Simmons posted... I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you win $50,000 (random number) in a case. It's not really going to be that great of an earning if you have to pay your lawyer $50,000 as well. If you win a lot more then what the lawyer fees are, then sure it's definitely worth it. But how often does that happen? And then the other question is, what if you lose. You still have to pay those lawyer fees. So then you're actually owing money. In my experience, they take out a percentage. Even before that, they'll discuss how much they'll take even before taking your case. --- "The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it." - Rule 43 <cite>yunalenne10 posted [p:951149122] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you win $50,000 (random number) in a case. It's not really going to be that great of an earning if you have to pay your lawyer $50,000 as well. If you win a lot more then what the lawyer fees are, then sure it's definitely worth it. But how often does that happen? And then the other question is, what if you lose. You still have to pay those lawyer fees. So then you're actually owing money.</quote>In my experience, they take out a percentage. Even before that, they'll discuss how much they'll take even before taking your case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 02/27/21 2:08:01 PM #18:	I had a buddy who was facing an easy 4 years for dealing. His 10k retainer on a lawyer got all charges thrown out, and he had enough left over to have his lawyer ensure the drug task force stopped pulling him over and harassing him on the street incessantly as a result of them being pissed at having fucked up his arrest so badly he walked away from it totally clean. If thats not worth 10 grand in your eyes what is? --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:951149154] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>I had a buddy who was facing an easy 4 years for dealing. His 10k retainer on a lawyer got all charges thrown out, and he had enough left over to have his lawyer ensure the drug task force stopped pulling him over and harassing him on the street incessantly as a result of them being pissed at having fucked up his arrest so badly he walked away from it totally clean. If thats not worth 10 grand in your eyes what is? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 02/27/21 2:08:51 PM #19:	People are shit at defending themselves --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:951149186] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>People are shit at defending themselves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 02/27/21 2:11:23 PM #20:	UnholyMudcrab posted... People are shit at defending themselves Exactly. My buddy woulda been fucked. Even with a less talented lawyer he woilda been fucked. The only part that confused me is how she got him off entirely on a technicality but the cops were allowed to keep over 6 grand they found in his house. Edit- iirc she did say she could probly get him his money back but also said it would probly just go entirely in her pocket anyways and just piss the cops off more. --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:951149249] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite> <quote>People are shit at defending themselves</quote> Exactly. My buddy woulda been fucked. Even with a less talented lawyer he woilda been fucked. The only part that confused me is how she got him off entirely on a technicality but the cops were allowed to keep over 6 grand they found in his house. Edit- iirc she did say she could probly get him his money back but also said it would probly just go entirely in her pocket anyways and just piss the cops off more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzurexNightmare 02/27/21 2:11:47 PM #21:	Chunkey Simmons posted... I would gladly give a year of my life away if it meant not blowing a shit ton of money. It would mean a living until you're 79 instead of 80. Not a big deal. Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about lol. I thought the same as you when I was like 7. You're living a fantasy. We can all go next week. I'm done explaining simple things to people for today though. Sorry. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:951149266] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>I would gladly give a year of my life away if it meant not blowing a shit ton of money. It would mean a living until you're 79 instead of 80. Not a big deal.</quote>Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about lol. I thought the same as you when I was like 7. You're living a fantasy. We can all go next week. I'm done explaining simple things to people for today though. Sorry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 02/27/21 2:12:29 PM #22:	Tc should watch more LegalEagle on youtube. --- I shouldnt be approaching 30 and preparing for life as a climate refugee. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:951149285] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Tc should watch more LegalEagle on youtube. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 02/27/21 2:13:20 PM #23:	Its cute tc thinks a year in jail is nothing more than life being on pause for a year. --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:951149305] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Its cute tc thinks a year in jail is nothing more than life being on pause for a year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VanananaHeyHey 02/27/21 2:15:17 PM #24:	Chunkey Simmons posted... I would gladly give a year of my life away if it meant not blowing a shit ton of money. It would mean a living until you're 79 instead of 80. Not a big deal. But you're not just "giving it away" in a puff of smoke; you're sitting in a cell, missing out on actual stuff. Also, everyone in this topic should watch the old 'Twilight Zone' episode, "The Self-Improvement of Salvadore Ross." --- Please, call me Vanai. CE's official linguist, War-tor-le and Charizard <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted [p:951149371] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>Chunkey Simmons posted... </cite> <quote>I would gladly give a year of my life away if it meant not blowing a shit ton of money. It would mean a living until you're 79 instead of 80. Not a big deal.</quote>But you're not just "giving it away" in a puff of smoke; you're sitting in a cell, missing out on actual stuff. Also, everyone in this topic should watch the old 'Twilight Zone' episode, "The Self-Improvement of Salvadore Ross." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 02/27/21 2:16:06 PM #25:	VanananaHeyHey posted... But you're not just "giving it away" in a puff of smoke; you're sitting in a cell, missing out on actual stuff. Also, everyone in this topic should watch the old 'Twilight Zone' episode, "The Self-Improvement of Salvadore Ross." Plus you now have a criminal record. Plus the trauma of whatever happens to you in jail. Olus the stigma of having done jail time. Etc etc. --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:951149396] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>VanananaHeyHey posted... </cite> <quote>But you're not just "giving it away" in a puff of smoke; you're sitting in a cell, missing out on actual stuff. Also, everyone in this topic should watch the old 'Twilight Zone' episode, "The Self-Improvement of Salvadore Ross."</quote> Plus you now have a criminal record. Plus the trauma of whatever happens to you in jail. Olus the stigma of having done jail time. Etc etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 02/27/21 2:18:19 PM #26:	We need high earning high status careers for smart people with no technical skills --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:951149469] in What is th... [t:79320535]...</cite> <quote>We need high earning high status careers for smart people with no technical skills </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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