Current Events > Anti SJW gamer is working on Hogwarts Legacy

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gunplagirl posted...

"Why don't you just tolerate people who refuse to acknowledge baseline level facts about you, such as your pronouns?"

Lemme guess, you also think that black people should tolerate racist white people calling them apes because it makes the racists feel better?

"Oh but you melt down" bullshit. A woman expressing dissatisfaction with being misgendered, called a freak, having lies about trans people throw out, etc.? That's stuff to be rightfully upset about. Maybe inspect how your words and feelings about upset women may in fact be indicative of some unresolved internal misogyny that you need to address. Something something the first stone.

There is a big difference between what JKR said and calling black people apes

Did you read what JKR said or were you too busy "literally shaking" to have basic reading comprehension?

Honestly, a lot of what JKR said came off like she had never heard the term cis before. She didn't come off super aware of gender vocabulary. It seemed to really stifle her words.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Um, now I'm talking to you and this is the second time you've decided to try and change the subject to something else.

Please take a look in the mirror

"In participating in talking to me about how I've derailed this topic, you've ALSO derailed this topic! Ha ha! Gotcha!"

But fine, you wanna talk about what you wanna talk about? Let's talk.

TommyG663513 posted...

How is she openly and proudly bigoted?

In her very very public promotion of anti-trans pro-cis-women beliefs backed upon lies and false data.

as long as she isn't shouting hate from a mountain

Her "TERF Wars" essay is exactly that.

JKR has some weird exclusive pro women stance that comes from her place of experiencing a lot of abuse as a woman. Seeing how it is trauma based I don't see a reason to entirely condemn her.

Hiding behind personal trauma is not an excuse to promote beliefs that could cause trauma upon others.

And make no mistake, these beliefs and promotions ARE HARMFUL. She's allowed to have her stupid beliefs, but to use her influence as a world-famous author to PROMOTE them is where we get into legitimate harm because people listen to her. Government officials listen to her. She has a platform that reaches a lot of people.

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CyricZ posted...

"In participating in talking to me about how I've derailed this topic, you've ALSO derailed this topic! Ha ha! Gotcha!"

But fine, you wanna talk about what you wanna talk about? Let's talk.

In her very very public promotion of anti-trans pro-cis-women beliefs backed upon lies and false data.

Her "TERF Wars" essay is exactly that.

Hiding behind personal trauma is not an excuse to promote beliefs that could cause trauma upon others.

And make no mistake, these beliefs and promotions ARE HARMFUL. She's allowed to have her stupid beliefs, but to use her influence as a world-famous author to PROMOTE them is where we get into legitimate harm because people listen to her. Government officials listen to her. She has a platform that reaches a lot of people.

JKR doesn't make her feelings on trans people her bread and butter.

This all started because she liked a twitter post and defended one person then wrote her long post about why she feels the way that she does

That is all she ever did with it. No one seems to be able to let that go.

Stop acting like she is doing everything she can to disparage people.

A lot of people get into these stupid woke battles about who is the wokest. At least religious people eventually got the message that arguing over who is the most devout is dumb AF.

I get that subscribing to wokeness is many peoples first experience with a type of religion. Maybe study other religions and how people came to term with their beliefs in a world that doesn't always seek to confirm their beliefs.

Religious people are taught to be forgiving of sin and to love the sinner. Obviously, adherence to that belief varies and not always in a positive way.

A lot of woke people could learn a little bit from that. It's obvious that for many woke people wokeness is baby's first religion.

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Having been subjected to trauma is not an excuse to weaponize said trauma to politically advocate against basic human rights of trans people.

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@CyricZ he's just posting off topic stuff at this point, no point furthering that

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TommyG663513 posted...

This all started because she liked a twitter post and defended one person then wrote her long post about why she feels the way that she does

You phrase that like it all happened in one day, but this was over the course of months. It's a pattern.

That is all she ever did with it. No one seems to be able to let that go.

Because it's still her opinion and still who she is. She didn't stop having the opinion because her essay happened seven months ago.

She also wrote a crime novel where a suspect in a serial killing is an abusive crossdresser.

Also her essay was nominated by the BBC for a fucking award.

Anti-trans rhetoric is spreading in the UK and at the policy level and she has the option to use her platform to curb it, but in all the opportunities she's taken she's fanned it, framing her views behind "protecting women" and it's only ever at the expense of trans people.

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scar the 1 posted...

Having been subjected to trauma is not an excuse to weaponize said trauma to politically advocate against basic human rights of trans people.

No you should just make an attempt to understand them and not scream bigot

What weaponizing and advocation against basic human rights by JKR do you speak of?

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CyricZ posted...

You phrase that like it all happened in one day, but this was over the course of months. It's a pattern.

Because it's still her opinion and still who she is. She didn't stop having the opinion because her essay happened seven months ago.

She also wrote a crime novel where a suspect in a serial killing is an abusive crossdresser.

Also her essay was nominated by the BBC for a fucking award.

Anti-trans rhetoric is spreading in the UK and at the policy level and she has the option to use her platform to curb it, but in all the opportunities she's taken she's fanned it, framing her views behind "protecting women" and it's only ever at the expense of trans people.

Ah so you don't know anything

Like anyone who brings up that crime novel as anti trans is just latching on to nothing

Did you read her crime novel or did you just read an interpretation of it from a SJW site?

Because calling her novel anti trans requires you to ignore an awful lot about an awful lot of things

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gunplagirl posted...

@CyricZ he's just posting off topic stuff at this point, no point furthering that

You accused me of wanting to fuck you

You really aren't one to talk

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TommyG663513 posted...

Did you read her crime novel or did you just read an interpretation of it from a SJW site?

Did you? What part of what I said was wrong?

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TommyG663513 posted...

Like anyone who brings up that crime novel as anti trans is just latching on to nothing

Incorrect. There are many parts of that show off a man "dressing up as a woman" to get at his victims which is a common "threat" transphobes use in regards to trans people about letting them in the same bathroom/changing area's. It's not just a minor, tiny, one sentence mention, but several paragraphs about it. It's classic transphobia disguised as concern.

Her article about her past trauma is sad, no one should have to go through that and anyone who mocks her over her abuse is scum themselves. But, it doesn't mean she then gets to pass that same trauma on to others. Contrapoints did a wonderful video on this just recently where she discusses this very point. It would be one thing if someone is twitchy around people similar to their abuser, but to then push for laws that strip away their rights is where you step from acceptable fear to discrimination. And that is what she is doing here, using her own trauma to justify pushing trauma onto others.

And yes, she is pushing for removal of rights. The people she has voiced support for and rallies against UK's laws on trans protection (which, while illegal to discriminate against them in the work place do still allow for it and still need much improvement) are people who simply had their jobs not continued after being in repeated breach of the Equality Act.

What would people say if she giving support to people who said "Blacks aren't people, like white people. Sure I love them but they aren't the same, just facts!" It's is blatant racism, in that case, and what she's doing is no better.

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Funkydog posted...

Contrapoints did a wonderful video on this just recently where she discusses this very point.

And Lindsay Ellis just put up a complementary video a couple of days ago addressing the concept from the lens of movies and other media. She examines several movies, and then brings it back to Troubled Blood, very clearly calling out passages in Rowling's book as well.

But that's "SJW" stuff so I don't know if Tommy boy will accept it.

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But the problem at the end of all of this is that Tommy is demanding we show him irrefutable evidence that Rowling is anti-trans. Specifically anti-trans.

And we don't have that. What we have is her established (over the course of a year and change) attitude that she needs to protect ciswomen and educate people about how "sex is real" when that was an issue that was never really on the table. She's "just stating facts" when she incorrectly claims about the risk transwomen pose to ciswomen, whether in the bathroom or otherwise. She's just "speaking about her own trauma" when she claims transmen are just women who, when presented with the unfairness of man's society, feel that "transitioning to being a man" makes more sense than continuing to live as an oppressed woman.

Like even if you just look at her essay and nothing more, you can see this isn't just a flippant one off attitude "that we can safely let go". This is clearly a topic she's dwelled on for some time.

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CyricZ posted...

And Lindsay Ellis just put up a complementary video a couple of days ago

I'll have to check that out later when off work then!

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Funkydog posted...

I'll have to check that out later when off work then!

Oh it's a hoot.

There's a section entitled "Two Decades of Puking".

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I'm now much more excited for this game than I ever was before.

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Not sure it's worth trying to convince him JKR is transphobic when he likely won't agree on any reasonable definition of transphobia in the first place

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it's like you all have never seen Tommy post in another topic before

he specifically seeks out threads to dump on marginalized groups. then he'll say he's black and bisexual, as if it's justification for shitting on people

he's a dime a dozen troll

Thighon posted...

it's like you all have never seen Tommy post in another topic before

he specifically seeks out threads to dump on marginalized groups. then he'll say he's black and bisexual, as if it's justification for shitting on people

he's a dime a dozen troll

I'm not black lol

I never said that ever

I am bisexual tho

I post in tons of topics where I just say "lol police are corrupt and republicans are garbage" constantly

You can look at my post history. This stuff isn't hard to figure out.

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It's been dead for three years, he disclosed it voluntarily to WB, and he doesn't seem to be funneling any of that shit anymore.

nothingburger. just make the fuckin game and make it good. if you fire him then not only will you piss off the other side, but you'll also end up with likely delays which will piss off everyone

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scar the 1 posted...

Not sure it's worth trying to convince him JKR is transphobic when he likely won't agree on any reasonable definition of transphobia in the first place

Uh what?

I don't agree with JKR and her views on trans. I agree that they're "problematic." I just think calling her a bigot and going all cancel culture on it is insanely stupid.

She is way more of an ally than an enemy

A lot of woke people like to engage in incredibly black and white thinking and if their behavior was out under similar inspection they'd fail the purity test too

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TommyG663513 posted...

You can look at my post history.

Actually we can't anymore. That function's gone.

PatrickMahomes posted...

It's been dead for three years,

It's inactive. Not dead. If it were dead, I wouldn't be able to click and watch one of his videos right now.


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TommyG663513 posted...

I don't agree with JKR and her views on trans. I agree that they're "problematic." I just think calling her a bigot and going all cancel culture on it is insanely stupid.

She is way more of an ally than an enemy

A lot of woke people like to engage in incredibly black and white thinking and if their behavior was out under similar inspection they'd fail the purity test too

She's not an ally if you're trans. Does that count for anything?

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CyricZ posted...

She's not an ally if you're trans. Does that count for anything?

She's an ally for a very long list of leftist values except like one

Being trans isn't the entirety of anyone's identity. At least, it shouldn't be. No one's gender should comprise the entirety of their identity

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TommyG663513 posted...

She's an ally for a very long list of leftist values except like one

Being trans isn't the entirety of anyone's identity. At least, it shouldn't be. No one's gender should comprise the entirety of their identity

So if I were a public advocate for women's rights, gay rights, trans rights, and rights for every race except black people, would that mean I get a pass?

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CyricZ posted...

So if I were a public advocate for women's rights, gay rights, trans rights, and rights for every race except black people, would that mean I get a pass?

I never said anyone gets a pass

I said screaming bigot and calling for cancel culture is overboard.

In your example, I'd say screaming bigot and calling for cancel culture would be more appropriate

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TommyG663513 posted...

In your example, I'd say screaming bigot and calling for cancel culture would be more appropriate

How so?

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CyricZ posted...

How so?

Because it's worse. There's way more black people out there.

Saying JKR hates trans people is pretty incorrect all on its own either way

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TommyG663513 posted...

Because it's worse. There's way more black people out there.

And there it is.

"Your Honor, let the record show that being anti-trans isn't as bad as being anti-black because of the number of them."

Saying JKR hates trans people is pretty incorrect all on its own either way

The evidence has been presented, counsel. It's all there in her essay.

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CyricZ posted...

And there it is.

"Your Honor, let the record show that being anti-trans isn't as bad as being anti-black because of the number of them."

The evidence has been presented, counsel. It's all there in her essay.

So now you're trying to do a bit to attempt to mock me? That's cool I guess.

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You don't need any help from me. You've dug your own grave on this one.

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Hey Tommy, weren't you the guy that defended Ben Shapiro being mad about black people being happy about the Black Panther movie?

I just went on this dude's channel and all I see is his stupid takes on net neutrality.

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Ellie95 posted...

Hey Tommy, weren't you the guy that defended Ben Shapiro being mad about black people being happy about the Black Panther movie?

ya know, I miss when you actually tried at this debating thing.

JK. You never tried.

Prestoff posted...

I just went on this dude's channel and all I see is his stupid takes on net neutrality.

He also has a video unironically called "It's ok to be a gamer".

Ellie95 posted...

Hey Tommy, weren't you the guy that defended Ben Shapiro being mad about black people being happy about the Black Panther movie?

That's a very weird take that I don't agree with one bit

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Ellie95 posted...

Hey Tommy, weren't you the guy that defended Ben Shapiro being mad about black people being happy about the Black Panther movie?

Yeah, he was

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shockthemonkey posted...

The dude thinks his open mic experience means hes an expert on what Dave Chappelle is doing wrong and who goes off for hours and hours about why Black people shouldnt have been excited about Black Panther has turned a topic entirely about his own weird views while arguing with people who arent dumb as fuck? Very strange and unexpected.

You live in a strange world there if that is your interpretation

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He criticized Anita Sarkeesian? Damn I might actually have to buy this game now, might be pretty good

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