Poll of the Day > I think that super intelligent AI is already here and actively influencing us

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Mead
02/23/21 7:17:59 PM
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tin foil hat time!

the last half decade or so has been so crazy. Its like something is happening that everyone is feeling but nobody really can articulate or talks about. But it seems to me like theres almost a change in collective consciousness when it comes to popular culture.

I wonder if Im just imagining or misunderstanding normal events or if social media and connectivity is having a real effect on the way peoples minds work. And if that is the case who or what is aware of that and how are they using it to influence things in the world?

I mean there is still a ton about the brain that we dont understand at all. We couldnt make one if we tried, but what if all the interconnected information and processing energy formed some kind of self awareness? I know Im far from the first person to think about such a thing but idk it really seems like things are building towards something and I never know what is gonna happen next nowadays.

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JigsawTDC
02/23/21 7:21:02 PM
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Mead posted...
the last half decade or so has been so crazy.

my gut intuition tells me this has more to do with unintelligent humans than super intelligent AI.
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Mead
02/23/21 7:23:46 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
my gut intuition tells me this has more to do with unintelligent humans than super intelligent AI.

but weve always had the former

it isnt like they just got here

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kosherliberian
02/23/21 7:26:20 PM
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> but weve always had the former

> it isnt like they just got here

We haven't always had ubiquitous social media. That's the key difference. There's all ready a ton of discussion around the destabilizing influence of social media in society, so I'm not sure why we need to introduce an Illuminati theory about AI overlords to explain it.
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ParanoidObsessive
02/23/21 7:37:47 PM
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You're mistaking your personal existential crisis experience for an outside phenomenon.
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Mead
02/23/21 7:39:27 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
You're mistaking your personal existential crisis experience for an outside phenomenon.

am I though

it doesnt really feel like a crisis, more like things are just becoming more and more interesting and connected to one another

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dedbus
02/23/21 7:40:33 PM
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I think you're just thinking social media algorithms that were designed for this. So the overarching ai is just the executive board and whoever else is on the circle jerk.
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Mead
02/23/21 7:44:29 PM
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dedbus posted...
I think you're just thinking social media algorithms that were designed for this. So the overarching ai is just the executive board and whoever else is on the circle jerk.

I dont really use a ton social media though. Like I dont use Facebook or Twitter or even discord. I pretty much just post on potd and browse Reddit occasionally. Although I guess youtube is social media and I do watch a good amount of that

Still it feels to me like its even more a popular culture as a whole thing, even if it is just a reaction to all the growing social media and connectivity

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Soup_or_Science
02/23/21 7:45:29 PM
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That's almost exactly how I feel about it

I just don't know how to feel about "it" as I can't really pinpoint or articulate what exactly "it" is, whether human, supernatural, demonic, or black hat "program" or technology (anyone that would do something like that to someone is definitely a black hat.)

All I know is that experiencing things that happen faster than the brain or human could feasibly transmit or receive is not normal

Such as hearing streams of water, literally talking, I mean think about it

You got your bathroom sink running and it's all "blublublublublub" but every single "blub" is a word in a high speed transmission of words formulated to be some kind of message that is not pre-recorded in any fashion (kids, don't use meth, or if you do, expect crap like that to become normal, or not knowing what people's real intentions are anymore)

And the fact that some people can't shut the hell up and you hear their every word in the background like they're possessed or something and they just REALLY have something to say that you need to hear, but they won't say any of it to your face (this is when people actually talk, not some modulation of a background or foreground noise to overlay a certain amount of spoken information, such as hearing flowing water speaking to you at the speed of... flowing water), and if you do actually catch on, they can easily brush it off as having nothing to do with you, or even deny it completely

Makes me think that there's something really weird going on. How am I supposed to know what the point is? Sure, not every bit of this phenomena is negative, but a lot of it is, and when it's become clear that drugs are not the source of influence to cause this phenomena any more, I just really wonder what the point is. I know a lot of it brings me down, so that seems to be a lot of the point. That it seems like there's an automatic process around that's always there just to influence you.

That's my ... what's the word? When you have something to say about something you've experienced. Not exactly "report", but, whatever.

Things have been a lot weirder than that, though, I could go on forever about it. Hate that shit now, but of course, it was always a love hate relationship. I dunno. There's just a lot of weird things that I don't know how to explain, but there's some of my personal takeaway.

That's why I try to keep my own personal negativity to a minimum, but of course, some things just can't be helped, or even fully understood, on my part - or if we're talking about times I've been negative - it's usually because that's how I've chosen to deal with the situation

Fuck all that shit. See?

Anyway, this interconnected stuff isn't really cutting it for me, and the fact of the matter is, I'm not the crazy one. I didn't start this crap, I just have to deal with it.

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ParanoidObsessive
02/23/21 7:46:14 PM
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Mead posted...
am I though

Yes.



Mead posted...
more like things are just becoming more and more interesting and connected to one another

Only because you've finally reached a point in your life where you've started paying attention to the world around you and now have enough personal experience to extrapolate from.

Only a few more years before you start ranting about how much "the kids today" suck and how doomed the world is going to be in about 20-30 years when they finally take over, just like every other generation in human history.
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shadowsword87
02/23/21 7:47:22 PM
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Bitcoins are just feeding the seed AI!
Save your coins!
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Mead
02/23/21 7:48:29 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Only because you've finally reached a point in your life where you've started paying attention to the world around you and now have enough personal experience to extrapolate from.

I mean I feel like Ive been doing that all along, but maybe youre right and Im only just now noticing things a certain way.

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Mead
02/23/21 7:48:49 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Bitcoins are just feeding the seed AI!
Save your coins!

aaaaaahhhh!

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hungrymike
02/23/21 8:12:02 PM
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Sounds like the plot to mgs2.
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Judgmenl
02/23/21 8:16:49 PM
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Been talking about this a lot on another site I visit. It is definitely possible that a GPT-3 bot exists and is manipulating us, however I don't think that happens on a site like GameFAQs. I could definitely believe some of the larger sites have something like that however.

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shadowsword87
02/23/21 8:19:22 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Been talking about this a lot on another site I visit. It is definitely possible that a GPT-3 bot exists and is manipulating us, however I don't think that happens on a site like GameFAQs. I could definitely believe some of the larger sites have something like that however.

Is GPT-3 really that good in comparison to the other ones? I've had some people do some joke-y stuff with GPT-2 a decent amount, and it's pretty good all things considered.
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Mead
02/23/21 8:22:01 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
GPT-3 bot

Im not sure if I should even go down the rabbit hole of looking up whatever that is

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Judgmenl
02/23/21 8:22:31 PM
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I don't know, I haven't really looked too far into it. Microsoft seems to have been interested enough to outright own the rights to the software. ML is a pretty scary field that has been getting constant advances over the past decade.

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Metalsonic66
02/23/21 8:24:30 PM
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hungrymike posted...
Sounds like the plot to mgs2.
Came in to say this

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ReturnOfFa
02/23/21 8:26:42 PM
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Everyone seems pretty good at being stupid on their own accord, and social media has driven it into hyperdrive.

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Judgmenl
02/23/21 8:28:34 PM
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Mead posted...
Im not sure if I should even go down the rabbit hole of looking up whatever that is
Here's an example of OpenAI at work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-6-ZIgmKY

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shadowsword87
02/23/21 8:28:36 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
I don't know, I haven't really looked too far into it. Microsoft seems to have been interested enough to outright own the rights to the software. ML is a pretty scary field that has been getting constant advances over the past decade.

Oh what the fuck, wait what in the hell.
Looks like normal people can only access the API, and microsoft owns the source code.

All of this stuff being secret is actually kinda wild to me, but, that's what we sort of expected.
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Judgmenl
02/23/21 8:33:10 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Oh what the fuck, wait what in the hell.
Looks like normal people can only access the API, and microsoft owns the source code.

All of this stuff being secret is actually kinda wild to me, but, that's what we sort of expected.
This is how a lot of the ML stuff works. You have to train an AI with billions of data points to get this kind of accuracy.
If you go back to a few years ago about that deepfake API that was leaked online that people freaked out about it was a similar issue. The AI was trained and I think there was a binary blob with the entire dataset, and you basically used an API to query the dataset. I'm not an ML person so I probably got something wrong here as my memory is a bit hazy on how it worked.

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shadowsword87
02/23/21 8:34:54 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
This is how a lot of the ML stuff works. You have to train an AI with billions of data points to get this kind of accuracy.
If you go back to a few years ago about that deepfake API that was leaked online that people freaked out about it was a similar issue. The AI was trained and I think there was a binary blob with the entire dataset, and you basically used an API to query the dataset. I'm not an ML person so I probably got something wrong here as my memory is a bit hazy on how it worked.

Yeah, I just wish I could get an extremely broad overview, like:
It takes 3x as long to make, but, it's 5x more accurate!
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Raddest_Chad
02/23/21 8:36:02 PM
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artificial intelligence =/= general intelligence

Once we get a machine with general intelligence, it will be our supreme overlord. Let me be the first to say I welcome its cold but logical benevolence.
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Mead
02/23/21 8:57:25 PM
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Raddest_Chad posted...
artificial intelligence =/= general intelligence

Once we get a machine with general intelligence, it will be our supreme overlord. Let me be the first to say I welcome its cold but logical benevolence.

Theres a reason I say thank you to Siri and Alexa

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Soup_or_Science
02/23/21 10:04:38 PM
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Mead posted...
Once we get a machine with general intelligence
Does it not seem more likely that there already would be one, before we even really knew about it? Lol.

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Mead
02/23/21 10:30:24 PM
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Hey I didnt post that

Nice try skynet

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Soup_or_Science
02/23/21 10:34:41 PM
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Mead posted...
Hey I didnt post that

Nice try skynet
No, this is Patrick

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