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Smackems
02/18/21 10:25:28 PM
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Simplified the rules and stuff WAY down, made it all up as I went. Just to show them what the game is like

These kids can never play a board game together without fussing, losing interest 5 minutes in, or even reading the rules. But they were all patient, very attentive and they fuckin loved it

Think d&d got 3 new little fans today

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:30:18 PM
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Which edition?
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Smackems
02/18/21 10:31:28 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Which edition?
5th but like I said I simplified it down like a mf. No skills, no attributes, just super basic stuff

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:32:42 PM
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Smackems posted...
5th but like I said I simplified it down like a mf.
How old are the kids? If it's less than 12 or so, then BECMI would be pretty good.
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Smackems
02/18/21 10:34:47 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
How old are the kids? If it's less than 12 or so, then BECMI would be pretty good.
They are 11, 11, and 12

They've always been curious when we adults played it but I knew they would lose interest real quick if they were bombarded with the whole thing

Also we didn't have a lot of time so I made everything they needed for them

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:38:21 PM
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I guess 5E does scale pretty easily.
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Smackems
02/18/21 10:40:49 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I guess 5E does scale pretty easily.
I love it. Very adaptable and it's both simplified and complex

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:43:56 PM
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Smackems posted...
I love it. Very adaptable and it's both simplified and complex
I was part of the "feedback community" on 5E, and sent WotC a treatise on turning D&D into a sort of object-oriented box model thing about classes and skills and stuff. A tiny handful of it looks to have actually made it to the end product, but I suspect they mostly thought I was crazy.
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Bad_Mojo
02/18/21 10:44:52 PM
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You did a good thing, TC. Now help me get into it, please. I have Beyond and understand how to play, but never get the chance.

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Smackems
02/18/21 10:45:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I was part of the "feedback community" on 5E, and sent WotC a treatise on turning D&D into a sort of object-oriented box model thing about classes and skills and stuff. A tiny handful of it looks to have actually made it to the end product, but I suspect they mostly thought I was crazy.
Lol well it just be like that sometimes

I've done that for a couple game alphas

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Smackems
02/18/21 10:46:42 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
You did a good thing, TC. Now help me get into it, please. I have Beyond and understand how to play, but never get the chance.
The only thing I can tell you is just get with people and play and practice (which is difficult right now I know). I've never played it online or anything myself so couldn't help ya there

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:49:04 PM
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Smackems posted...
The only thing I can tell you is just get with people and play and practice
The most important thing is finding an agreeable group.
Roleplay vs. rollplay kills off D&D groups faster than anything else, and "serious" vs "beer!" is a close second.
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Bad_Mojo
02/18/21 10:50:13 PM
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Smackems posted...
The only thing I can tell you is just get with people and play and practice (which is difficult right now I know). I've never played it online or anything myself so couldn't help ya there

There is a pandemic going on and I don't have any friends. I tried to DM with my brother and his wife once, but I wasn't very good.

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Smackems
02/18/21 10:53:01 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The most important thing is finding an agreeable group.
Roleplay vs. rollplay kills off D&D groups faster than anything else, and "serious" vs "beer!" is a close second.
I've always played as "we will roleplaying, but it will be goofy af." And then had about 80% actual gameplay. Not just combat, but plenty of other hurdles to tackle, sometimes even requiring my players to do (often dumb) physical things

I've never allowed alcohol in my games. I know that would turn into "screw this lets get drunk"

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:53:04 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
There is a pandemic going on and I don't have any friends. I tried to DM with my brother and his wife once, but I wasn't very good.
Roll20 might be an option. I played with a group on that for a bit, a couple or three years ago.
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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 10:55:04 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The most important thing is finding an agreeable group.
Roleplay vs. rollplay kills off D&D groups faster than anything else, and "serious" vs "beer!" is a close second.
Rollplay all the way. >_>

I hate when my character can't stand up to with storyline villains because plot bullshit

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Smackems
02/18/21 10:55:55 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
There is a pandemic going on and I don't have any friends. I tried to DM with my brother and his wife once, but I wasn't very good.
Hmm.. Maybe just play as a player and observe you dm's. Learn from them. I know comic book stores and stuff usually have people playing and will sometimes let random newbies play with them

But yeah, can't really do that right now

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:56:07 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Rollplay all the way. >_>
DD&D all the way.

The first D stands for "drunken".
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Smackems
02/18/21 10:58:16 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Rollplay all the way. >_>

I hate when my character can't stand up to with storyline villains because plot bullshit
I always just tell my players if someone has plot armor, which isn't often at all, and that they can do pretty much whatever they want in the confines of the world i have set up

My players have fucked up my plans so many times lol. And that's how you learn how to wing it

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AlisLandale
02/18/21 10:58:44 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Rollplay all the way. >_>

I hate when my character can't stand up to with storyline villains because plot bullshit

so what I did was, I gave the villain a million HP

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 10:59:09 PM
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Smackems posted...
And that's how you learn how to wing it
The extra D in DD&D also helps with that.
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Smackems
02/18/21 11:02:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The extra D in DD&D also helps with that.
Yeah i bet. I quit drinking years ago though. So I'm always sober... And also, and this may make me a weirdo, I don't eat before playing. I dm hungry so I'm on the ball with everything. Helps my focus

That may be kinda fucked up lol

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 11:03:27 PM
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Smackems posted...
I quit drinking years ago though.
W&D&D?
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Smackems
02/18/21 11:04:45 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
W&D&D?
Nah. One of my regular players does though. He doesn't do enough that he can't pay attention or anything tho

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MabusIncarnate
02/18/21 11:05:59 PM
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That's awesome man, my nephews spent a lot of time with me growing up, I watched them a couple times a week when their dad was at work. At a real young age I started introducing them to everything and seeing them experience stuff for the first time and loving it was awesome.

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Smackems
02/18/21 11:07:28 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
That's awesome man, my nephews spent a lot of time with me growing up, I watched them a couple times a week when their dad was at work. At a real young age I started introducing them to everything and seeing them experience stuff for the first time and loving it was awesome.
Being an uncle really is great

Get to let them do the cool shit they can't do at home

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marthsheretoo
02/18/21 11:08:53 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Rollplay all the way. >_>

I hate when my character can't stand up to with storyline villains because plot bullshit

Get a better DM lol. Any DM worth their salt knows how to let plans go sideways and not fudge the numbers when PCs realize they need to kill someone before you wanted them to die.

In my campaign, the main villain was traveling with the PCs for a bit and I was scared to death they were going to figure out he was the main villain and knife him in their sleep. They never did, but if they had, I would have rolled with it rather than pretending he had 5,000 hp and skin like full plate.

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 11:08:59 PM
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Still my pride and joy from the days I used to DM:

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lolife67
02/18/21 11:15:15 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
There is a pandemic going on and I don't have any friends. I tried to DM with my brother and his wife once, but I wasn't very good.
There's a bunch of online options. Roll20, DNDBeyond, StartGaming and the Meetup app are all possibilities. Bad_Mojo posted...
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Smackems
02/18/21 11:15:59 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Still my pride and joy from the days I used to DM:
Way better than me when it comes to making it pretty lol

I bought a grid mat and used it for years until i recently said fuck it and switched to the official dnd tile sets

marthsheretoo posted...
Get a better DM lol. Any DM worth their salt knows how to let plans go sideways and not fudge the numbers when PCs realize they need to kill someone before you wanted them to die.

In my campaign, the main villain was traveling with the PCs for a bit and I was scared to death they were going to figure out he was the main villain and knife him in their sleep. They never did, but if they had, I would have rolled with it rather than pretending he had 5,000 hp and skin like full plate.
Had a similar thing going with one of my campaign main villains. My players killed a lot of innocent people but never suspected the calm elf of being a devil summoner lol

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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 11:22:33 PM
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Also fwiw I don't get the mass appeal of dnd over text rp

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Smackems
02/18/21 11:23:31 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Also fwiw I don't get the mass appeal of dnd over text rp
Text rp?

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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 11:25:28 PM
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Smackems posted...
Text rp?
Yeah. It's like DnD but you just write everything out. I guess it adds the inner dimension of the character to the story. I guess text roleplay usually gets pigeonholed into sex stuff but there is also a lot of DnD style stuff that is just the same fare over text

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 11:26:53 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Yeah. It's like DnD but you just write everything out.
rollplay tho
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Smackems
02/18/21 11:28:06 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Yeah. It's like DnD but you just write everything out. I guess it adds the inner dimension of the character to the story. I guess text roleplay usually gets pigeonholed into sex stuff but there is also a lot of DnD style stuff that is just the same fare over text
Ah I got ya. I had a buddy that was into online roleplaying but i don't think dice or checks of any kind were involved

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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 11:33:44 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
rollplay tho
Gundam RPG where people are split into factions, have battles, can customize their shit, etc

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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 11:34:55 PM
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Smackems posted...
Ah I got ya. I had a buddy that was into online roleplaying but i don't think dice or checks of any kind were involved
Yeah, that would be the major difference I guess. Dice combat is probably more stimulating than text combat.

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Smackems
02/18/21 11:36:57 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Yeah, that would be the major difference I guess. Dice combat is probably more stimulating than text combat.
From what I remember, they would just write the thing they wanted to happen and it happened

That could end up wild as fuck if left unchecked lol

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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 11:39:55 PM
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Smackems posted...
From what I remember, they would just write the thing they wanted to happen and it happened

That could end up wild as fuck if left unchecked lol
I've never seen it get quite that bad, that's generally against the rules lol. Can you do large scale fights in DnD?

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lolife67
02/18/21 11:42:16 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I've never seen it get quite that bad, that's generally against the rules lol. Can you do large scale fights in DnD?
Um, yeah. Plus you don't have to type out everything and can just say it.
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Smackems
02/18/21 11:42:28 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I've never seen it get quite that bad, that's generally against the rules lol. Can you do large scale fights in DnD?
I have developed large battle systems, yes. Usually I make large groups (like 20 plus) attack in groups and give them a semi high armor class, but only 1 hp to help things move along faster

Can't do that often or for very long, though, because constant combat can get tiring and boring

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marthsheretoo
02/18/21 11:47:00 PM
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Smackems posted...
From what I remember, they would just write the thing they wanted to happen and it happened

That could end up wild as fuck if left unchecked lol

Yeah it's REALLY important in those environments for people to police themselves. It has to be about telling a story, not about whose character is coolest.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/18/21 11:48:13 PM
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lolife67 posted...
Um, yeah. Plus you don't have to type out everything and can just say it.

Smackems posted...
I have developed large battle systems, yes. Usually I make large groups (like 20 plus) attack in groups and give them a semi high armor class, but only 1 hp to help things move along faster

Can't do that often or for very long, though, because constant combat can get tiring and boring
That's pretty cool, didn't know. Might look into some systems for that.

Also I guess I enjoy typing stuff out rather than saying it. But I don't have experience with verbal roleplay really.

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Smackems
02/18/21 11:50:25 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
That's pretty cool, didn't know. Might look into some systems for that.

Also I guess I enjoy typing stuff out rather than saying it. But I don't have experience with verbal roleplay really.
Well there may be better systems out there for that, i made that one up. I'm always looking for ways to speed things up

And hey, you like what you like, it's all good

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Questionmarktarius
02/18/21 11:52:00 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Can you do large scale fights in DnD?
There's consistently been a ruleset for doing so since Chainmail (embryonic D&D), back in 1971.
However, it's rarely used since D&D (and Chainmail) are based around a scale of a dozen or so individuals at a time.
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