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Trumble 02/13/21 10:24:21 PM #1: |
Three new community cases in a single South Auckland household have been reported today, with the Health Ministry describing them as new and active cases. Full article: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/436398/covid-19-update-three-new-community-cases-in-auckland --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 02/13/21 10:25:55 PM #2: |
I'd just be glad to live in a country where people aren't deliberately trying to spread it.
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BilalPowell 02/13/21 10:27:11 PM #4: |
Shouldve built a wall
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SPE 02/13/21 10:27:45 PM #5: |
Does NZ have any flights coming into it?
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Trumble 02/13/21 10:37:05 PM #6: |
SPE posted...
Does NZ have any flights coming into it?Yes, that's how it keeps getting here. Entry is nominally limited to citizens / residents only, but word of mouth is that it's not hard to get around that with the right connections. 14 day quarantine is required on arrival, but quarantine failures are happening on average once every three weeks or so. It's an utter miracle that we've only needed to lock down twice so far (with the second occasion only being one city, not the whole country), but I honestly have a bad feeling about this latest case... --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Back_Stabbath 02/13/21 10:39:07 PM #7: |
SPE posted...
Does NZ have any flights coming into it? yes, a ton. everyone gets screened at the border, you need a pretty good reason to be here, mandatory managed isolation before you are free to do business in the country. it is catching a HELL of a lot more than it is missing, but people are desperate to get in and maliciously spread their shit it seems. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/13/21 11:12:06 PM #8: |
Back_Stabbath posted...
but people are desperate to get in and maliciously spread their shit it seems."Maliciously" might be a step too far. I don't think they outright want to spread it, so much as just they don't give a shit if they do. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 02/13/21 11:13:35 PM #9: |
Trumble posted...
"Maliciously" might be a step too far. I don't think they outright want to spread it, so much as just they don't give a shit if they do.Sufficiently advanced stupidly is indistinguishable from malice. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:05:00 AM #10: |
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will hold a Covid-19 press conference at 7pm to give an update on the new South Auckland community cases announced this afternoon. Full article: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/jacinda-ardern-dr-ashley-bloomfield-hold-covid-19-conference-7pm-after-latest-community-cases Pretty much - if Ardern is involved in a press conference, it's either about a vaccine or restrictions are coming back. And given the context, this is not likely to be about the vaccine. Here's hoping it's only Level 2. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBlueMonk_ 02/14/21 12:06:56 AM #11: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
I'd just be glad to live in a country where people aren't deliberately trying to spread it.if you're not purposely murdering the sick and elderly, how can you say you're free?? IN AMERICA, WE VALUE FREEDOM! NOT GRANDMAS! --- Park Minyoung NOONA <3 https://imgur.com/F5yuHSF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:07:51 AM #12: |
TheBlueMonk_ posted...
if you're not purposely murdering the sick and elderly, how can you say you're free?? Let's hope we don't get to a point where comparing NZ to America is the only way to make NZ look good. Right now, it's ridiculous to claim we're still "best in the world" but we're still lightyears ahead of places like the US for sure. (Western Australia probably deserves that title. *One* community case in the last 250 days or so. By comparison NZ's had about 200 over that time.) --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:10:01 AM #13: |
Trumble posted...
Full article: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/jacinda-ardern-dr-ashley-bloomfield-hold-covid-19-conference-7pm-after-latest-community-casesNewshub live updates have confirmed an emergency cabinet meeting is taking place. This is almost a surefire sign that we're moving up the alert levels. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 02/14/21 12:12:47 AM #14: |
I have an irrational crush on Jacinda. At least she'll be in international news now.
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ShibaToken 02/14/21 12:21:01 AM #15: |
So we're at the point where we're sick shaming people now?
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:22:45 AM #16: |
ShibaToken posted...
So we're at the point where we're sick shaming people now? If you're aiming that at me, the only people I intend to shame are the government who still can't run the border safely yet are too stubborn to admit such. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShibaToken 02/14/21 12:27:26 AM #17: |
I'm aiming it at the people who think carrying a disease is evil now.
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Dark_SilverX 02/14/21 12:27:55 AM #18: |
I refuse to believe fake news
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The_Creep_2020 02/14/21 12:29:30 AM #19: |
Dark_SilverX posted...
I refuse to believe fake newsWhat fake news? --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:31:02 AM #20: |
The_Creep_2020 posted...
What fake news?The dismissal of this topic as "fake news" is one of those rare cases where I can already tell this guy's very far to whichever side he's on, but can't actually tell which side it is. I suspected covid denier until I saw the sig, so now I'm thinking he's in denial about the idea that NZ ever messes up? --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 02/14/21 12:47:54 AM #21: |
I am not trying to talk bad about NZ, I love the ALL BLACKS . But why are people so dead set on going their at this time. I mean even if they got there wouldn't it be better to come at a safer time.
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:50:25 AM #22: |
cjsdowg posted...
I am not trying to talk bad about NZ, I love the ALL BLACKS . But why are people so dead set on going their at this time. I mean even if they got there wouldn't it be better to come at a safer time. A lot of it essentially comes down to the same reasons behind the anti-lockdowns / anti-mask type crowds. The biggest difference is mainstream acceptance. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:53:18 AM #23: |
Press conference in about 10 minutes (probably 15 taking into account that Ardern is almost always late to these things) where we'll hear what happens next.
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008Zulu 02/14/21 12:53:50 AM #24: |
BilalPowell posted...
Shouldve built a wallThey did, but Covid stacked a bunch of bombs in the culvert, and sent in an Urak-hai on a suicide run. --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 12:58:31 AM #25: |
BilalPowell posted...
Shouldve built a wallI'm 100% of the opinion that New Zealand should build a wall and make Australia pay for it, but that's unrelated to this matter. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 1:00:13 AM #26: |
Holy shit she's early for once. Wow.
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Trumble 02/14/21 1:02:49 AM #27: |
She hasn't stated the exact news yet but it doesn't sound good from how she's talking. Bloomfield giving the sciencey details about what's going on now.
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Trumble 02/14/21 1:09:55 AM #28: |
Auckland going into level 3 ("lockdown lite"), rest of NZ to level 2 (restrictions but not lockdown) for at least 3 days.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/14/21 1:31:42 AM #29: |
They're lucky that they're such a small country
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vigorm0rtis 02/14/21 9:26:37 PM #31: |
Trumble posted...
Let's hope we don't get to a point where comparing NZ to America is the only way to make NZ look good. You all are doing pretty well. It's a pandemic, you can't just hermetically seal the nation. The fact that steps are being taken at a federal level is impressive. At least, I'm impressed. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/14/21 11:16:17 PM #32: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
You all are doing pretty well. It's a pandemic, you can't just hermetically seal the nation. The fact that steps are being taken at a federal level is impressive. At least, I'm impressed. There is no such thing as "federal" vs "state" in NZ. You might be thinking of Australia, but they do indeed handle most of it at the state level. Alternatively, you might be thinking of the local councils in NZ, but their authority is pretty much limited to city planning type shit. Of course, this has to be taken in the context of that our entire country is smaller, both physically and in terms of population, than most states in any country that has states (or an equivalent). Japan is the only exception to come to mind, and even that one's only an exception on the "physically" side. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thighon 02/16/21 9:56:36 AM #34: |
I'm so unreasonably envious of those of you who were born in New Zealand. Cherish that you have a country that seems to give a shit about its populace. That sounds like a fairy tale. Imagine, caring about your citizens. Imagine having a conscientious community.
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vigorm0rtis 02/16/21 10:02:33 AM #35: |
Trumble posted...
There is no such thing as "federal" vs "state" in NZ. You might be thinking of Australia, but they do indeed handle most of it at the state level. Alternatively, you might be thinking of the local councils in NZ, but their authority is pretty much limited to city planning type shit. Didn't know that. Huh. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 02/16/21 10:05:54 AM #36: |
AldousIsDead posted...
Sufficiently advanced stupidly is indistinguishable from malice. stolen --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 02/16/21 10:18:05 AM #37: |
Medussa posted...
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Medussa 02/16/21 10:19:43 AM #38: |
yeah sorry, i saw it, too. should have fixed it in the quote.
also, how do you feel about "apathy" instead of "stupidity" there? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 02/16/21 10:28:59 AM #39: |
You can do what you like with the arrangement, it's just the corollary to Hanlon's Razor. Never attribute to malice what could be reasonably attributed to stupidity.
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Trumble 02/16/21 12:39:16 PM #40: |
Th3Truth posted...
Everyone's wearing masks still right?lmao nope. I went to the supermarket yesterday, and the only other person I saw wearing a mask was the greeter. It's not so much an anti-mask sentiment, as such - you certianly won't get hassled for wearing one - more just apathy. Apparently in the major cities things are a bit better tho, especially Auckland (since that's where the cases - so far - actually are). Thighon posted... I'm so unreasonably envious of those of you who were born in New Zealand. Cherish that you have a country that seems to give a shit about its populace. That sounds like a fairy tale. Imagine, caring about your citizens. Imagine having a conscientious community. The thing about NZ is that we tend to judge ourselves by the standard of "are we as good as we could be?", rather than "are we better than the United States?". And right now, while our covid response might be an A+ on the latter measure, it's a B at best on the former. I'd look to the likes of Western Australia or Taiwan if I was looking for someone to grant A+ to (okay, Taiwan might have slipped to an A at this point). vigorm0rtis posted... Didn't know that. Huh. We do have "regions", but that's more to do with councils (as mentioned above). In particular, regions don't set their own laws for the most part - they have control over things like alcohol licencing, speed limits, zoning, etc, but a region couldn't unilaterally eg. legalize cannabis or set different penalties for crimes (not even in the "I'm ignoring federal law and doing it anyway" sense that Colorado etc have done the former in). AldousIsDead posted... Never attribute to malice what could be reasonably attributed to stupidity. I like to add "or negligence" to the end of that one. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/16/21 8:05:17 PM #41: |
After two days of not finding any more connected cases, they picked up two earlier today - seem to be downstream from the original cases though, so still very likely the original family were the start of the outbreak (and thus, it's a small one).
Looks like we've dodged yet another major bullet. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/16/21 10:20:50 PM #42: |
10 minutes (plus any lateness, plus the usual waffling on for 5 minutes before getting to the important stuff) until we find out what happens next.
My money's on status quo staying in place until Friday, assuming no big developments in the last few hours that they haven't revealed yet, after which (assuming it remains no new big developments) it goes to Level 2 nationwide. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 02/16/21 10:26:02 PM #43: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
I'd just be glad to live in a country where people aren't deliberately trying to spread it.thank god you're here to save us from a topic that wasn't about america --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/16/21 10:26:43 PM #44: |
Choco posted...
thank god you're here to save us from a topic that wasn't about americaIt could be. We don't yet know how this happened, so it's not impossible that the infection came from America. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DEKMStephens 02/16/21 10:30:13 PM #45: |
Remember to use ur covid tracker apps boyos, our team is (almost) and five million man strong
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Trumble 02/16/21 10:30:40 PM #46: |
Livestream of the press conference re: any developments / changes to restrictions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyzgsJvJ81I
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Trumble 02/16/21 10:31:29 PM #47: |
DEKMStephens posted...
Remember to use ur covid tracker apps boyos, our team is (almost) and five million man strong No it's not. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/16/21 10:37:28 PM #48: |
This is more like the "norm" (Ardern being really late).
EDIT: She's here, 9 minutes late. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drpooplol 02/16/21 10:39:48 PM #49: |
How do you like living in New Zealand? What are the great things? What are the poopy parts?
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Trumble 02/16/21 10:43:19 PM #50: |
Trumble posted...
My money's on status quo staying in place until Friday, assuming no big developments in the last few hours that they haven't revealed yet, after which (assuming it remains no new big developments) it goes to Level 2 nationwide.Okay so from what Bloomfield's saying, sounds like this might be wrong and it might be Level 2 for Auckland already. --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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