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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/04/21 4:24:41 AM
#104:


gunplagirl posted...
Not all trans people have the same genitals, saying this implies they do and is a trash opinion all around. Stereotyping all members of a group is not a sign of maturity.

And saying they don't have any interest in any trans person means it's a personal choice of theirs to do so. It's not maturity, it's just comfort inn their bigotry.

And no, this isn't saying you have to date trans people. Just, that if you do date and you exclude all of them from your dating pool, it's because you're hanging on to some really heavy transphobic ideals.

1. I was supposing the person in question knows which genitalia the other person has. I realize that trans people can be in many different situations when it comes to their genitalia. This is assuming you have met one another and had a mutual interest in each other on a basic level.

2. It is not a choice to not be attracted to certain genitalia. I have personally never been attracted to a penis. Were my wife to transition and part of that transition was to surgically change her body to reflect the gender they identify with, I would support that and love them. I assume our sexual relationship would change however, as I have never been attracted to a penis. I'm not going to say it is impossible but at 36 years old I have never felt aroused by a penis.

3. Relationships do not always necessitate sexual relations but if a person knows that is an important element to them and the other person does not have the genitalia that arouses them, does that make them transphobic?

Again I say this as someone who actively supports the community, devotes time to the LBGTQ community. I cannot in ANY WAY understand what it is like to be anything other than CIS-male, but to basically assume hatred or ignorance from ALL people who say they don't see themselves being involved with someone who is trans is dangerous to me.

I apologize if this seems like some sort of justification for hatred or ignorance. There is no justification for anything other than support and understanding for trans people. I have no doubt that a lot of people have never actually thoughtfully considered what their reaction would be to being interested in someone and what they would do upon discovering they are trans.

My hope would be they would attempt a relationship and see if that interest blossoms. Someone thinking they couldn't handle that is perhaps close minded, but I don't believe all of them are transphobic.

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runewalshPSiv
02/04/21 4:27:19 AM
#105:


jason19192 posted...
Sounds more like trans women will never actually be women no matter what which is transphobia.

Nope.

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Medussa
02/04/21 4:30:11 AM
#106:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
CIS-

no caps, no dash. it's an adjective, not a prefix and not an acronym.

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Flauros
02/04/21 4:30:58 AM
#107:


Why do people get so heated when someones sexual preference is "The other party doesnt have/never had a penis"?

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Mingue
02/04/21 4:34:14 AM
#108:


Preferences, yo

Guess that means I'm a racist, sexist, bigoted, transphobic piece of shit tho, huh?
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MrMallard
02/04/21 4:34:35 AM
#109:


LivingLegend posted...
Who said I wouldnt?


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viewmaster_pi
02/04/21 4:36:27 AM
#110:


why are the far leftists in here asserting that what you're sexually/romantically attracted to is a choice and belittling people for it? that doesn't sound very progressive...

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InhumaneRaider
02/04/21 4:37:53 AM
#111:


You can state that you have preferences without going into bigoted reasons behind those preferences.


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DJquackquack
02/04/21 4:38:04 AM
#112:


Respect is a two way street. I respect the LGBTQs right to be who they want. In turn, they need to respect my right to date who I want.

Its as simple as that.

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jason19192
02/04/21 4:41:19 AM
#113:


DJquackquack posted...
Respect is a two way street. I respect the LGBTQs right to be who they want. In turn, they need to respect my right to date who I want.

Its as simple as that.
"Cuz I aint into chicks that used to be dudes." - DJquackquack

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DJquackquack
02/04/21 4:43:30 AM
#114:


viewmaster_pi posted...
why are the far leftists in here asserting that what you're sexually/romantically attracted to is a choice and belittling people for it? that doesn't sound very progressive...
Its mind blowing. Im politically neutral, but imagine telling a gay man he needs to develop an attraction to vaginas or else hes a bigot for rejecting a FtM trans person. Wild.

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DJquackquack
02/04/21 4:43:52 AM
#115:


jason19192 posted...
"Cuz I aint into chicks that used to be dudes." - DJquackquack
Consider that the TL;DR version.

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ZevLoveDOOM
02/04/21 4:45:37 AM
#116:


different strokes for different folks fam.
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InhumaneRaider
02/04/21 4:48:33 AM
#117:


Having genital preference isn't transphobic, saying you won't date a trans person, because they're trans, is.

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Rika_Furude
02/04/21 4:51:38 AM
#118:


Why shame people for their sexual orientation? Most people are born with an attraction to the opposite biological sex. It's as simple as that. It's not bigotry in the same way not being attracted to the same sex isn't homophobia.

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MikeG
02/04/21 4:55:16 AM
#119:


Gender is what we see. If you're on a date with a woman and you hit it off, and you're laughing, having the best time of your life, and before the date is over, she tells you she's trans, and if her gender identity is the thing that's bothering you, that's transphobic.

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Webbernet
02/04/21 4:56:11 AM
#120:


I dont date anyone because I dont put in the effort because I fear rejection

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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:03:55 AM
#121:


MikeG posted...
Gender is what we see. If you're on a date with a woman and you hit it off, and you're laughing, having the best time of your life, and before the date is over, she tells you she's trans, and if her gender identity is the thing that's bothering you, that's transphobic.
So if a lesbian woman politely declines a trans woman, because shes more comfortable dating biological women, it makes her a bigot?

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viewmaster_pi
02/04/21 5:05:15 AM
#122:


MikeG posted...
Gender is what we see.
but i thought gender was an abstract social construct across a spectrum that's all in our heads

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Kimbos_Egg
02/04/21 5:05:43 AM
#123:


ghostblob posted...
My fiancee is non-binary, so am I. I've chatted romantically in the past with trans women. I don't see why anyone wouldn't really. I see the wanting to have bio kids defense a lot but do those people refuse to date infertile women?

Maybe because i'm not attracted to them. Crazy idea i know.

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Kimbos_Egg
02/04/21 5:06:20 AM
#125:


MikeG posted...
Gender is what we see. If you're on a date with a woman and you hit it off, and you're laughing, having the best time of your life, and before the date is over, she tells you she's trans, and if her gender identity is the thing that's bothering you, that's transphobic.

No it isn't. But okay.

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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:07:30 AM
#126:


jason19192 posted...
You already proved that you're a transphobe.
By your definition, anybody who disagrees with you is.

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jason19192
02/04/21 5:08:16 AM
#127:


DJquackquack posted...
By your definition, anybody who disagrees with you is.
"Cuz I aint into chicks that used to be dudes." - DJquackquack

Someone who said this definitely is.
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Mingue
02/04/21 5:10:29 AM
#128:


I'm not sexually attracted to dogs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a caninophobe. I fucking LOVE dogs, they're great animals, I love rubbing their bellies!

But I really, really don't wanna have sexual intercourse with them.
I mean, it's just not something that I'm into all that much, y'know?

Fuck, I'm a caninophobe, huh?
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jason19192
02/04/21 5:11:23 AM
#129:


Mingue posted...
I'm not sexually attracted to dogs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a caninophobe. I fucking LOVE dogs, they're great animals, I love rubbing their bellies!

But I really, really don't wanna have sexual intercourse with them.
I mean, it's just not something that I'm into all that much, y'know?

Fuck, I'm a caninophobe, huh?
Wow comparing trans people to dogs, very nice.
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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:12:34 AM
#130:


jason19192 posted...
"Cuz I aint into chicks that used to be dudes." - DJquackquack

Someone who said this definitely is.
Tell you what: when and if my penis decides it can get erect to women that used to be men, youll be the first to know.

But I guess until then, Im a transphobe

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MikeG
02/04/21 5:13:09 AM
#131:


DJquackquack posted...
So if a lesbian woman politely declines a trans woman, because shes more comfortable dating biological women, it makes her a bigot?
Did you read the statement or no? As @InhumaneRaider genital preference isn't transphobic, focusing purely on gender identity and saying you won't date a trans person, BECAUSE, they're trans, is transphobic.

Kimbos_Egg posted...
No it isn't. But okay.
It is.

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Mingue
02/04/21 5:14:23 AM
#132:


jason19192 posted...
Wow comparing trans people to dogs, very nice.
Oh fuck, I meant cars instead of dogs.

My bad.

I'm a carophobe. Or whatever.
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jason19192
02/04/21 5:14:27 AM
#133:


DJquackquack posted...
Tell you what: when and if my penis decides it can get erect to women that used to be men, youll be the first to know.

But I guess until then, Im a transphobe
Thanks for admitting it
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jason19192
02/04/21 5:14:46 AM
#134:


Mingue posted...
Oh fuck, I meant cars instead of dogs.

My bad.

I'm a carophobe. Or whatever.
Are you about to make an attack helicopter joke?
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Mingue
02/04/21 5:14:55 AM
#135:


I really don't want to fuck cars!
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viewmaster_pi
02/04/21 5:16:18 AM
#136:


Mingue posted...
I really don't want to fuck cars!
https://youtu.be/O-BTblfwnNg

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Mingue
02/04/21 5:17:39 AM
#137:


jason19192 posted...
Are you about to make an attack helicopter joke?
I would never compare trans people to attack helicopters!!
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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:18:13 AM
#138:


MikeG posted...
Did you read the statement or no? As @InhumaneRaider genital preference isn't transphobic, focusing purely on gender identity and saying you won't date a trans person, BECAUSE, they're trans, is transphobic.

It is.
Even if the trans woman had gotten surgery to get a vagina, youre saying the lesbian woman doesnt have the right to decline her advances because shed be more comfortable dating a biological woman?

How is that being accepting or respectful or understanding? Youre basically taking away a persons right to choose their partner based on preference.

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BlockAddition
02/04/21 5:18:26 AM
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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:19:10 AM
#140:


jason19192 posted...
Thanks for admitting it
Youre welcome.

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jason19192
02/04/21 5:21:10 AM
#141:


DJquackquack posted...
Even if the trans woman had gotten surgery to get a vagina, youre saying the lesbian woman doesnt have the right to decline her advances because shed be more comfortable dating a biological woman?

How is that being accepting or respectful or understanding? Youre basically taking away a persons right to choose their partner based on preference.
If the trans woman and cis woman hit it off and they have sex and everything is fine but then the trans woman said that they're trans and then the cis woman feels "betrayed" and doesn't want to date her anymore, the cis woman is being transphobic. End of discussion.
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Flauros
02/04/21 5:21:59 AM
#142:


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The_Korey
02/04/21 5:24:46 AM
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MikeG
02/04/21 5:25:57 AM
#144:


DJquackquack posted...
Even if the trans woman had gotten surgery to get a vagina, youre saying the lesbian woman doesnt have the right to decline her advances because shed be more comfortable dating a biological woman?

How is that being accepting or respectful or understanding? Youre basically taking away a persons right to choose their partner based on preference.
"Researchers describe transphobia as emotional disgust, fear, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations"

Trans women are women. Saying you won't date a Trans Woman, because they're not "biologically a woman", is transphobic.

Homie, you're telling them they're not a woman, that's transphobic.

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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:28:34 AM
#145:


jason19192 posted...
If the trans woman and cis woman hit it off and they have sex and everything is fine but then the trans woman said that they're trans and then the cis woman feels "betrayed" and doesn't want to date her anymore, the cis woman is being transphobic. End of discussion.
Theres a simpsons episode about that exact premise. Where Patty is about to marry a dude dressed as a chick, and she turns him down literally because she felt betrayed, despite them having great chemistry together.

At the time it was praised as a positive depiction of the LGBTQ, but I guess now its transphobic.

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Kanaya413
02/04/21 5:31:07 AM
#146:


Ill date a man regardless of whats in his underwear

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gunplagirl
02/04/21 5:34:09 AM
#147:


DJquackquack posted...
Theres a simpsons episode about that exact premise. Where Patty is about to marry a dude dressed as a chick, and she turns him down literally because she felt betrayed, despite them having great chemistry together.

At the time it was praised as a positive depiction of the LGBTQ, but I guess now its transphobic.
He was literally a cis man who faked it, he's not a trans woman. He was doing it as part of a scam. Jfc.

"Hey there was a black guy in caddy shack, I guess it's suddenly racist now because some background characters referred to the character in question with a derogatory phrase." That's what you did, Mr. Twice as many active posts as karma.

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viewmaster_pi
02/04/21 5:37:00 AM
#148:


Kanaya413 posted...
Ill date a man regardless of whats in his underwear
ch-check your PMs please!!!!!!

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jason19192
02/04/21 5:37:11 AM
#149:


DJquackquack posted...
Theres a simpsons episode about that exact premise. Where Patty is about to marry a dude dressed as a chick, and she turns him down literally because she felt betrayed, despite them having great chemistry together.

At the time it was praised as a positive depiction of the LGBTQ, but I guess now its transphobic.
Exact premise? Cross dressing is the same as taking female hormones and having surgery? Also that episode came out in 2005 and it was praised for showing same sex marriage in a positive light by gay people, obviously transphobia back then was terrible so people in general didn't really care about that aspect.
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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:37:51 AM
#150:


MikeG posted...
"Researchers describe transphobia as emotional disgust, fear, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations"

Trans women are women. Saying you won't date a Trans Woman, because they're not "biologically a woman", is transphobic.

Homie, you're telling them they're not a woman, that's transphobic.
Nah man, Im sorry but thats an incorrect viewpoint. Just because Im uncomfortable dating somebody, doesnt mean Im uncomfortable with them as a person. Those are two totally different things.

Your quote says discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to societys gender standards. But me not dating them, doesnt mean i feel any of those things.

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MikeG
02/04/21 5:41:59 AM
#151:


DJquackquack posted...
Nah man, Im sorry but thats an incorrect viewpoint. Just because Im uncomfortable dating somebody, doesnt mean Im uncomfortable with them as a person. Those are two totally different things.
What? That has nothing to do with the example given. You can be transphobic in both situations, dating and friendship. Who said they're mutually exclusive? However, you're still disregarding them as a Woman, i.e, judging them on their gender identity, and that is transphobic.

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DJquackquack
02/04/21 5:44:14 AM
#152:


gunplagirl posted...
He was literally a cis man who faked it, he's not a trans woman. He was doing it as part of a scam. Jfc.

"Hey there was a black guy in caddy shack, I guess it's suddenly racist now because some background characters referred to the character in question with a derogatory phrase." That's what you did, Mr. Twice as many active posts as karma.
He wasnt doing it as a scam, he was in love with her. He was trying to trick her because he wanted her to look past his gender and her own preconceived notions, which is exactly what you claim to be advocating.

It's wild that you dont see the irony of it all.

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jason19192
02/04/21 5:47:51 AM
#153:


DJquackquack posted...
He wasnt doing it as a scam, he was in love with her. He was trying to trick her because he wanted her to look past his gender and her own preconceived notions, which is exactly what you claim to be advocating.

It's wild that you dont see the irony of it all.
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InhumaneRaider
02/04/21 5:48:22 AM
#154:


DJquackquack posted...
He wasnt doing it as a scam, he was in love with her. He was trying to trick her because he wanted her to look past his gender and her own preconceived notions, which is exactly what you claim to be advocating.

It's wild that you dont see the irony of it all.
He was a cis-male, he wasn't transgender.

You tried though.

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