Current Events > Joe Rogan does a shit thing

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I mean, not totally unexpected from him.

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Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.
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EffectAndCause posted...

Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.

I've been trying to figure this one out myself and I think it's basically because Joe Rogan is absolutely that guy who insists on talking to you about some issue he knows you disagree on. And to begin with you think "hey, this guy is reasonable, calm, collected, willing to talk things out" but then over the course of the conversation you realise that he's doing it all in bad faith and his entire goal here is just to prop himself up as some kind of messianic mediator of the peace.

In short, he's somehow more annoying than the people you rabidly disagree with because it's impossible to discern if he holds any actual opinion seriously.

Like UnfairRepresent, but a chadbro.

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EffectAndCause posted...

Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.

I like his podcast, but he did a shit thing this time that deserves to be called out.

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pinky0926 posted...

In short, he's somehow more annoying than the people you rabidly disagree with because it's impossible to discern if he holds any actual opinion seriously.

Yeah but hes always normal and respectful to his guests and is pretty much a conduit for them to provide their perspectives, where UnfairRepresent is ****** and ********* to the highest level.
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Why are we supposed to have ig accounts now?

I don't care about that site, just tell me what the post is

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EffectAndCause posted...

Yeah but hes always normal and respectful to his guests and is pretty much a conduit for them to provide their perspectives, where UnfairRepresent is ****** and ********* to the highest level.

I like his podcasts too sometimes, but usually just when he isn't really involved in it. Like it's fun to listen to a physicist speak freely for hours.

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pinky0926 posted...

Like UnfairRepresent, but a chadbro.

Ha!

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EffectAndCause posted...

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself

Was.

I think the only left wing view he has anymore is being pro weed. He's been anti Covid restrictions and said people shouldn't vote for Biden because he has a cognitive decline. (Because Trump totally doesn't)

A lot of people hate Rogan because he is willing to talk to pretty much anybody. Its not enough that someone disagrees with you, the idea is that you should not be allowed to speak your different opinion. This is why youll hear the word platform thrown around when theyre advocating silencing Rogan, as in he should not have a platform that likewise gives a platform to people, with views they dont like, a chance to discuss and debate their views.

The fact that Rogan also hunts, is rich and has several of his own controversial views (but really, its the trans athletes issue) doesnt help.

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pogo_rabid posted...

I like his podcast, but he did a shit thing this time that deserves to be called out.

What was the thing?

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

A lot of people hate Rogan because he is willing to talk to pretty much anybody. Its not enough that someone disagrees with you, the idea is that you should not be allowed to speak your different opinion. This is why youll hear the word platform thrown around when theyre advocating silencing Rogan, as in he should not have a platform that likewise gives a platform to people, with views they dont like, a chance to discuss and debate their views.

The fact that Rogan also hunts, is rich and has several of his own controversial views (but really, its the trans athletes issue) doesnt help.

You cant give a platform to people like Alex Jones and wash your hands of it like he tries to do.

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Who's the hot piece of ass?

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

A lot of people hate Rogan because he is willing to talk to pretty much anybody. Its not enough that someone disagrees with you, the idea is that you should not be allowed to speak your different opinion. This is why youll hear the word platform thrown around when theyre advocating silencing Rogan, as in he should not have a platform that likewise gives a platform to people, with views they dont like, a chance to discuss and debate their views.

Don't you think it's odd to say that we should allow anyone on joe rogan's famous podcast to speak their mind...and simultaneously hold that we shouldn't say how we feel about that on our dingy little message board?

I mean even if that's not what you meant that's what you're arguing towards here. The problem isn't alex jones or whoever talking shit, it's the liberals on gamefaqs and twitter talking shit.

Essentially you should be completely in favour of people levelling criticism at joe rogan even if you like him personally.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

You cant give a platform to people like Alex Jones and wash your hands of it like he tries to do.

Nah, its Ok for people to admit they dont know everything and are wrong sometimes or even often. Alex Jones says a lot of crazy shit, much of which Rogan finds hilarious. At some point, I bet he hosts Jones again, probably if Jones can stay relevant.

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pinky0926 posted...

Don't you think it's odd to say that we should allow anyone on joe rogan's famous podcast to speak their mind...and simultaneously hold that we shouldn't say how we feel about that on our dingy little message board?

Yes, that would be odd. I am totally in favor of anyone criticizing Rogan or whatever. In fact, I like considering their thoughts.


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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Nah, its Ok for people to admit they dont know everything and are wrong sometimes or even often. Alex Jones says a lot of crazy shit, much of which Rogan finds hilarious. At some point, I bet he hosts Jones again, probably if Jones can stay relevant.

Of course he HAS to host Jones again. He almost has an obligation to host him. His last apearence on the show is a good example of the "both sides" shit Joe plays. Have Jones on to appease the people who think he's being censored since the move to Spotify while also fact checking Jones to appease the people who think Joe just lets Jones spout out random bullshit


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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Nah, its Ok for people to admit they dont know everything and are wrong sometimes or even often. Alex Jones says a lot of crazy shit, much of which Rogan finds hilarious. At some point, I bet he hosts Jones again, probably if Jones can stay relevant.

Thing is, the current situation is far beyond the point of some harmless academic debate between two individuals where two parties make polite chit chat and discuss some points and then hopefully come to an understanding or something.

We're facing a global epidemic of misinformation. Not simply "guy was wrong about that" or "didn't have all the facts", but an insidious terror strategy with millions of people being targeted deliberately with misinformation campaigns designed to terrify and militarise them.

Your Capitol was stormed by your own constituents who were probably well-meaning. And yes I'm serious about "well-meaning", because yes they are terrorists, but I bet every single one of them thought they were saving America.

We're past the point of "'let's just hear them out", especially when these pundits get up on the biggest radio channels and lie constantly.

So here's the problem with Alex Jones on Joe Rogan. He gets to say whatever shit he wants and there's not an equal response that buries his lies with the respect they deserve. Guys like Rogan just let them go wild on the show.

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pinky0926 posted...

Don't you think it's odd to say that we should allow anyone on joe rogan's famous podcast to speak their mind...and simultaneously hold that we shouldn't say how we feel about that on our dingy little message board?

I mean even if that's not what you meant that's what you're arguing towards here. The problem isn't alex jones or whoever talking shit, it's the liberals on gamefaqs and twitter talking shit.

Essentially you should be completely in favour of people levelling criticism at joe rogan even if you like him personally.

I dont think he is saying you shouldnt be allowed to criticize rogan, he's just saying you are wrong to

Big difference between disagreeing with someone and deplatforming
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And before anyone says it, I'm not in favour of "shutting down debate". What I am in favour of is holding liars accountable. And no one is holding Alex Jones accountable for the nonsense he says.

And whatever your rights to free speech are, I don't think they include your freedom to go on the biggest podcast in the world and talk freely for as long as you like without comment.

Alex Jones on Rogan isn't debate. It's theatre, and the scary part is that to many people it's non-fiction. It serves more as propaganda than information.

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pinky0926 posted...

We're past the point of "'let's just hear them out", especially when these pundits get up on the biggest radio channels and lie constantly.

I feel like youre implying something must be done. What exactly are you getting at?

Keep in mind the context of Rogan being an American.

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That . . . was a comedy skit?

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pinky0926 posted...

And whatever your rights to free speech are, I don't think they include your freedom to go on the biggest podcast in the world and talk freely for as long as you like without comment.

I mean if the podcast runners want you to, that kind of is covered under free speech
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

I feel like youre implying something must be done. What exactly are you getting at?

Keep in mind the context of Rogan being an American.

Maybe not inviting conspiracy crackpots onto your famous talk show for the purpose of theatre at a time when so many people are ready to tear down democracy at the slightest invitation would be a start. And if that is somehow impossible, then actually engage them in a serious debate (you know, the supposed freedom of intellectual thought or whatever these conversations are supposed to be about) and attack the issues with hardball questions.

Rogan isn't exactly Jeremy Paxman or Larry King, is he? He throws out a softball question, let's Alex Jones reel off some insanity for 10 minutes and then sits there laughing. Are we supposed to congratulate this in the spirit of free speech or something? I think that's a low standard to set.

Basically if you want a forum where people discuss difficult questions this ain't it.

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g980 posted...

I mean if the podcast runners want you to, that kind of is covered under free speech

The point is that deplatforming someone like this is not an attack on your constitutional right to free speech at all, and it might be warranted at the moment, in lieu of any genuine attempt to criticise Alex Jones with any integrity.

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pinky0926 posted...

The point is that deplatforming someone like this is not an attack on your constitutional right to free speech at all, and it might be warranted at the moment.

If the government is deplatforming you, it is

What if i said it was okay for you to disagree with free speech because speech can be dangerous?
Its ok. Free speech comes with risks and you can have a nuanced position.

But lets stop pretending that government mandates to restrict political commentary is "free speech"
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g980 posted...

If the government is deplatforming you, it is

What if i said it was okay for you to disagree with free speech because speech can be dangerous?
Its ok. Free speech comes with risks and you can have a nuanced position.

But lets stop pretending that government mandates to restrict political commentary is "free speech"

I didn't say anything about the government deplatforming anyone. I'm saying I think Joe Rogan or the showrunners should make that decision, and I'm criticising them for not doing that. That's all.

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g980 posted...

If the government is deplatforming you, it is

Is anyone asking for this?

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pookie291 @_rob_simmons Shut the fuck up loser its a joke

lol

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Yet again, fuck Joe Rogan.

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pinky0926 posted...

And whatever your rights to free speech are, I don't think they include your freedom to go on the biggest podcast in the world and talk freely for as long as you like without comment.

Yes they do

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Alt Right Roe Jogan gets a hard on for anything Tim Dillon these days because he can't express himself that way with the money and popularity he's got.

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

Yes they do

Let me clarify. You're not entitled to have that purely because you demand it.

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EffectAndCause posted...

Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.

You listen to any of the recent stuff he has done? He isnt liberal.

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Can people stop pretending he is not alt right? Whats next a sketch in blackface?

it is strange how he never made a shit sketch like this about Sarah sanders or Rudy guiliani

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EffectAndCause posted...

Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.

he was pretty liberal. Then he sold out since he found a lucrative niche with the trumpers.

now he is always criticizing Hollywood, trans people, immigration, the far left, etc

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Whats wrong with that video?

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I'm still waiting to find out what this supposed 'shit thing' is.

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EffectAndCause posted...

Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.

Which many many liberals support.

I can't speak for anyone else but my problem with him is he has no real stance. He shifts his beliefs and politics to match his guest. So if he is talking to a leftist he becomes more left meaning, if he talks to someone to the right his beliefs shift accordingly. If he interviews someone like Alex Jones he starts agreeing with any crazy belief Jones has that day. He is a political chameleon and that makes his platform dangerous. Of course he can have anyone on his show he wants and I will defend his right to believe whatever he wants.

Joe Rogan, the real Joe Rogan is probably a chill guy with very liberal beliefs but when you watch his show will you experience the real Joe Rogan?

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Tom Dillon is so unfunny. Idk why Rogan thinks he's the most hilarious thing ever

Yeah as someone who listened to Rogan for many years his podcast started to shift in the last year or so. I mean, warnings signs were there, but the bad parts of the show became a lot more prevalent.

Honestly, my biggest beef with Rogan is by far his complaining about covid restrictions. Dude is still making boatloads of money just talking to people. Celebrities with extremely privileged lives have zero right to complain about covid restrictions. It is by far the most petty thing for anyone to complain about. If you have some money coming in, a roof over your head, and good health then you should have more gratitude than not right now.

Rogan isn't one of those people. He really misses performing comedy and going out to eat at restaurants. He doesn't like wearing masks. Oh, but he gets tested for covid all the time and so does anyone that walks into his studio. So he likes to talk a big game, but he's not exactly living that way.

Bill Burr had a brilliant take down of Rogan many months ago while on his podcast. Really showcases how much smarter and better of a comic Burr is though Rogan is also a buffoon. Rogan basically tried to troll Burr by asking what he thought of covid restrictions and if they were helping. Burr responded with a very long rant where his big point was that it's stupid for two comics to discuss this when it's way over their heads and that they should defer to experts and just try to follow protocols. He also ripped into Rogan for hesitations about wearing masks and stuff like that.

If anyone knows the clip....

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Grilled_Cheesed posted...

Tom Dillon is so unfunny. Idk why Rogan thinks he's the most hilarious thing ever

He has a disrespect for trans people so it's like when conservatives find unfunny hacks like Jeff Dunham or Larry the Cable Guy hilarious as hell.

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joe40001 posted...

Why are we supposed to have ig accounts now?

I don't care about that site, just tell me what the post is

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EffectAndCause posted...

Why do internet liberals hate and talk about this guy so much?

The times ive heard the podcast he seems like hes actually pretty liberal himself aside from having guns for hunting.

Some people are joking, some people are just dumb

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pinky0926 posted...

I didn't say anything about the government deplatforming anyone. I'm saying I think Joe Rogan or the showrunners should make that decision, and I'm criticising them for not doing that. That's all.

I hate Alex Jones but if you dont want to hear him just dont listen to his episodes or dont listen to Rogans podcast.

So tired of you guys and your authoritarian deplatforming garbage.

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He gives assholes a platform to spread their lies. He knows what he's doing

TommyG663513 posted...

Yeah as someone who listened to Rogan for many years his podcast started to shift in the last year or so. I mean, warnings signs were there, but the bad parts of the show became a lot more prevalent.

Honestly, my biggest beef with Rogan is by far his complaining about covid restrictions. Dude is still making boatloads of money just talking to people. Celebrities with extremely privileged lives have zero right to complain about covid restrictions. It is by far the most petty thing for anyone to complain about. If you have some money coming in, a roof over your head, and good health then you should have more gratitude than not right now.

Rogan isn't one of those people. He really misses performing comedy and going out to eat at restaurants. He doesn't like wearing masks. Oh, but he gets tested for covid all the time and so does anyone that walks into his studio. So he likes to talk a big game, but he's not exactly living that way.

Bill Burr had a brilliant take down of Rogan many months ago while on his podcast. Really showcases how much smarter and better of a comic Burr is though Rogan is also a buffoon. Rogan basically tried to troll Burr by asking what he thought of covid restrictions and if they were helping. Burr responded with a very long rant where his big point was that it's stupid for two comics to discuss this when it's way over their heads and that they should defer to experts and just try to follow protocols. He also ripped into Rogan for hesitations about wearing masks and stuff like that.

If anyone knows the clip....

I'd love to hear this. Bill is great.

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Southernfatman posted...

I'd love to hear this. Bill is great.

https://youtu.be/1chYhsp3NRw

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TheoryzC posted...

https://youtu.be/1chYhsp3NRw

lel just like that Billy Blue Balls turned Rogaine and Co. into fucking snowflakes

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Infinite 2003 posted...

I hate Alex Jones but if you dont want to hear him just dont listen to his episodes or dont listen to Rogans podcast.

So tired of you guys and your authoritarian deplatforming garbage.

I don't listen to him, but I'm not the problem am I?

Your country just had a coup attempt and it absolutely was not because of a stolen election. So propose a better solution to that disaster, because clearly millions of people are listening to fake news and living in an alternative reality.

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