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DJquackquack
01/22/21 6:38:12 AM
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DocDelicious posted...
It's an NPC in a video game.
You asked what the issue was. Thats the issue.
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DocDelicious
01/22/21 6:39:46 AM
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DJquackquack posted...
You asked what the issue was. Thats the issue.

So there is no issue, then.

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Thompson
01/22/21 6:40:25 AM
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DJquackquack posted...
You asked what the issue was. Thats the issue.
Does the act incur negative karma?

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treewojima
01/22/21 6:43:29 AM
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Gamers rise up and enslave women like little fetish pets
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
01/22/21 6:48:26 AM
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apolloooo posted...
i just heard this mod is just basically fetish projection of the maker


Admittedly, fetish mods are nothing new to Fallout. Hell, most of my mod loadout for New Vegas (and Skyrim) is basically porn.

It just gets lulzy and weird when they try to sell their kinky junk as "super serious and lore friendly". They ain't fooling nobody.
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Ivynn
01/22/21 7:05:12 AM
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What in the dickens

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pfh1001
01/22/21 7:29:03 AM
#57:


Apparently, some of you have forgotten that you can buy Clover in Fallout 3 to act as your companion, and she is a literal sex slave, exploding collar & all. In the base game, made by Bethesda.

If you want to say this is bad or sleazy, okay, but its not like the horrible crapsack post apocalyptic world of Fallout hasn't had shit like this before.
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teepan95
01/22/21 7:29:36 AM
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teepan95 posted...
You don't play fallout to indulge in DD/LG fantasies

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SpiritSephiroth
01/22/21 7:45:40 AM
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DJquackquack posted...
They literally got a death collar strapped to her neck and theyre making her degrade herself, and you say whats the issue here?

Yall need help.

Imagine getting this worked up over an Npc. Fucking hell man.

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eston
01/22/21 7:46:00 AM
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I mean yeah it's bad but neither of these things would be out of place in an official Fallout game

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SpiritSephiroth
01/22/21 7:46:23 AM
#62:


This is literally nothing compared to those weird skyrim mods all over Nexus.

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teepan95
01/22/21 7:55:17 AM
#63:


eston posted...
I mean yeah it's bad but neither of these things would be out of place in an official Fallout game

Enslaving someone? No, it wouldn't be out of place

Fetish stuff? Absolutely

SpiritSephiroth posted...
This is literally nothing compared to those weird skyrim mods all over Nexus.

Your point being?

Also, like someone else pointer out, the weird mods don't advertise themselves as 'deep' and whatever
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Aridi
01/22/21 7:58:05 AM
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This is not even remotely upsetting.

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eston
01/22/21 8:01:19 AM
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teepan95 posted...
Enslaving someone? No, it wouldn't
Have you ever, like, played a Fallout game before? Hell the first game gave you a big forehead tattoo if you became a slaver

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:03:07 AM
#66:


eston posted...
teepan95 posted...
Enslaving someone? No, it wouldn't
Have you ever, like, played a Fallout game before? Hell the first game gave you a big forehead tattoo if you became a slaver

I meant it wouldn't be out of place

Edited that post. Apologies for not being precise enough
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deanshow
01/22/21 8:06:42 AM
#67:


teepan95 posted...
https://twitter.com/SPITFIREVA/status/1352272170928525314?s=20

https://twitter.com/KungFuMan316/status/1351666121263489030?s=20

this is why we can't have nice things
I talked to one of the creators of this mod. He's probably still a kid in his early twenties, thats not an excuse but its a cause for some of this.

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eston
01/22/21 8:07:00 AM
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In that case I'll expand it to have you ever played a video game before, because that type of awkward fetish stuff has been in gaming forever. I cant even count on my fingers the number of games that throw random gimp suits into the mix

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InYourWalls1
01/22/21 8:07:27 AM
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I've never heard of this mod before, but if they were flipping out over the Enclave for political reasons, it's also possible that this is just a bad attempt at political humour on their part given the character is named America

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:08:09 AM
#70:


deanshow posted...
teepan95 posted...
https://twitter.com/SPITFIREVA/status/1352272170928525314?s=20

https://twitter.com/KungFuMan316/status/1351666121263489030?s=20

this is why we can't have nice things
I talked to one of the creators of this mod. He's probably still a kid in his early twenties, thats not an excuse but its a cause for some of this.

Yeah. It's a shame cause it's a huge effort and deserves to be lauded for that. But stuff like that just brings it down imo

eston posted...
In that case I'll expand it to have you ever played a video game before, because that type of awkward fetish stuff has been in gaming forever. I cant even count on my fingers the number of games that throw random gimp suits into the mix

teepan95 posted...
teepan95 posted...
You don't play fallout to indulge in DD/LG fantasies

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SpiritSephiroth
01/22/21 8:08:28 AM
#71:


teepan95 posted...
Your point being?

Also, like someone else pointer out, the weird mods don't advertise themselves as 'deep' and whatever

It's not deep or anything. Just a mod by some guys, not even a professional company. People are blowing their minds over something stupid here.

It's like a weird fantasy in mod form.

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deanshow
01/22/21 8:08:55 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I can't say for sure but they may have patched out that slavery option in a hotfix. There's ways to do that and not have it just look like blatant fetish bait and they failed.

People seem to say the mod is really fun overall it's the story and dialogue that's kinda iffy.
Theyre making us re record some of the dialogue. I think they're doing rewrites but dont quote me on that. I usually improvise a bit when I record stuff but here I stuck to the script

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TheBlueMonk_
01/22/21 8:09:22 AM
#73:


Man fuck this shitty ass website

The only relief I have is knowing all the people saying this is ok will never know the touch and love of a woman

You do this to yourself

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eston
01/22/21 8:09:43 AM
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I agree, but all that random fetish stuff still shows up because a lot of game devs are weirdos

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:11:23 AM
#75:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
teepan95 posted...
Your point being?

Also, like someone else pointer out, the weird mods don't advertise themselves as 'deep' and whatever

It's not deep or anything. Just a mod by some guys, not even a professional company. People are blowing their minds over something stupid here.

It's like a weird fantasy in mod form.

Take a look at the steam page and tell me it comes across as a "stupid weird mod"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1356060/The_Frontier/
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SpiritSephiroth
01/22/21 8:12:10 AM
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Serious question though, not even trying to argue. How is this any different from porn companies using rape fetishes in their videos? Tying girls up and shit. That stuff is weird as fuck too and barely anyone gives it this much flack.

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ghostblob
01/22/21 8:12:46 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with this. Sounds like a bunch of modern liberal puritans in this topic. Also not sure where you're getting dd/lg from this. Not that there's anything wrong with that kink.

Grow up basically.

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:13:33 AM
#78:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Serious question though, not even trying to argue. How is this any different from porn companies using rape fetishes in their videos? Tying girls up and shit. That stuff is weird as fuck too and barely anyone gives it this much flack.

They advertise themselves as such. This mod doesn't. And it's out of place and basically a disappointment

(All of the above is my opinion, needless to say)
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SpiritSephiroth
01/22/21 8:13:59 AM
#79:


teepan95 posted...
Take a look at the steam page and tell me it comes across as a "stupid weird mod"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1356060/The_Frontier/

The Frontier is a fan made modification for Obsidian Entertainment's Fallout: New Vegas.

Also theres all sorts of weird shit on steam. If you dont like it then that's fine. I find it weird as fuck too, but it's an NPC from some randoms who made a mod. Thats all. If it was a real girl however, I'd probably be the one making this topic.

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SpiritSephiroth
01/22/21 8:14:36 AM
#80:


teepan95 posted...
They advertise themselves as such. This mod doesn't. And it's out of place and basically a disappointment

(All of the above is my opinion, needless to say)

That's understandable.

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Ivynn
01/22/21 8:15:28 AM
#81:


eston posted...
I agree, but all that random fetish stuff still shows up because a lot of game devs are weirdos

Can't recall any weird fetish stuff in the original FNV

Unless you count, I dunno, Fisto?

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:15:58 AM
#82:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
teepan95 posted...
Take a look at the steam page and tell me it comes across as a "stupid weird mod"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1356060/The_Frontier/

The Frontier is a fan made modification for Obsidian Entertainment's Fallout: New Vegas.

Also theres all sorts of weird shit on steam. If you dont like it then that's fine. I find it weird as fuck too, but it's an NPC from some randoms who made a mod. Thats all. If it was a real girl however, I'd probably be the one making this topic.

The Frontier is the largest modification ever released for Fallout: New Vegas, and aims to be a unique experience for players both old and new


None of that makes it sound like "just another fetish mod" to me

SpiritSephiroth posted...
teepan95 posted...
They advertise themselves as such. This mod doesn't. And it's out of place and basically a disappointment

(All of the above is my opinion, needless to say)

That's understandable.

Thanks for acknowledging this
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Ivynn
01/22/21 8:17:48 AM
#83:


ghostblob posted...
I don't see anything wrong with this. Sounds like a bunch of modern liberal puritans in this topic. Also not sure where you're getting dd/lg from this. Not that there's anything wrong with that kink.

Grow up basically.

I think the main thing is that the modders made a huge stink about not allowing a pro-Enclave faction because "it's too evil/the Enclave is like Trump" and then they include something like this lol

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deanshow
01/22/21 8:19:01 AM
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If I honestly knew this was a plot line I wouldve raised my objections with the writers or dropped out. The writing for that is cringey and I thought this dudes were above this shit

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:21:21 AM
#85:


deanshow posted...
If I honestly knew this was a plot line I wouldve raised my objections with the writers or dropped out. The writing for that is cringey and I thought this dudes were above this shit

It's all good dude. Honestly I feel bad about raising such a stink that a friend of mine was involved in. Please don't take any of this as a personal attack on you, cause it really isn't!
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deanshow
01/22/21 8:22:32 AM
#86:


teepan95 posted...
It's all good dude. Honestly I feel bad about raising such a stink that a friend of mine was involved in. Please don't take any of this as a personal attack on you, cause it really isn't!
Nah I don't. Like us VAs were given the scripts of our lines and no one else's. So I honestly have no clue whats going on in the plot. Thanks for bringing me this to my attention.

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eston
01/22/21 8:23:08 AM
#87:


teepan95 posted...
None of that makes it sound like "just another fetish mod" to me
Presumably because it's not just another fetish mod, this is just a small questionable piece of an otherwise big project

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:24:22 AM
#88:


eston posted...
teepan95 posted...
None of that makes it sound like "just another fetish mod" to me
Presumably because it's not just another fetish mod, this is just a small questionable piece of an otherwise big project

Which is my point, yeah
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NeonOctopus
01/22/21 8:25:26 AM
#89:


Can you blow up the collar after you put it on her? >_>

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deanshow
01/22/21 8:32:27 AM
#90:


NeonOctopus posted...
Can you blow up the collar after you put it on her? >_>
Yes I think so

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deanshow
01/22/21 8:39:44 AM
#91:


I brought up my objections to the directors they said in order to even get there your karma must be at -250 and you must be in the Legion. So take that for what it is @teepan95

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teepan95
01/22/21 8:41:22 AM
#92:


I don't mind the enslaving. That's Fallout

My problem is with fetishizing it

But thanks for letting me know
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deanshow
01/22/21 8:43:28 AM
#93:


teepan95 posted...
I don't mind the enslaving. That's Fallout

My problem is with fetishizing it

But thanks for letting me know
Yep doing what I can.

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01/22/21 9:16:56 AM
#94:


Incels dream girl.
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ghostblob
01/22/21 9:48:55 AM
#95:


teepan95 posted...
My problem is with fetishizing it
Why is this an issue? It's not a kids game

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Socrawheeze
01/22/21 9:56:49 AM
#96:


yo wtf lmao

that second tweet, oh jeez. I thought it'd be bad but not that bad. Feel bad for the VA lol
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teepan95
01/22/21 10:16:54 AM
#97:


ghostblob posted...
teepan95 posted...
My problem is with fetishizing it
Why is this an issue? It's not a kids game

No, but neither is it fallout

And for a mod that presents itself as a deep "experience", it's just gross
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Funkydog
01/22/21 10:48:05 AM
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Yeah, there is a difference between installing the plethora of sex mods Fallout/Skyrim has and a "serious" expansion fetishising it. I don't really have any issue with the sex mods as they are solely designed for people to get off and don't pretend to be anything else so anyone trying to compare them is just being openly disingenuous.

And slavery in fallout is fine in of itself, but ways to do it that aren't just blatant fetishism as evident in this conversation and ending screen. It is a bad thing and you can show that off/have the protagonist/others partaking in it be the evil bastards with abusing them if you're going to do Legion/Bandit stuff, as Obsidian didn't fetishise the Legions slavery from what I recall (but it's been so long since I did a Legion playthrough and anything other than kill them I could be wrong)

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CouldBeAnAlt
01/22/21 10:49:11 AM
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To be fair they didn't really address the legion slavery much in nv probably because it'd open a huge can of worms
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teepan95
01/22/21 11:02:50 AM
#100:


Funkydog posted...
Yeah, there is a difference between installing the plethora of sex mods Fallout/Skyrim has and a "serious" expansion fetishising it. I don't really have any issue with the sex mods as they are solely designed for people to get off and don't pretend to be anything else so anyone trying to compare them is just being openly disingenuous.

And slavery in fallout is fine in of itself, but ways to do it that aren't just blatant fetishism as evident in this conversation and ending screen. It is a bad thing and you can show that off/have the protagonist/others partaking in it be the evil bastards with abusing them if you're going to do Legion/Bandit stuff, as Obsidian didn't fetishise the Legions slavery from what I recall (but it's been so long since I did a Legion playthrough and anything other than kill them I could be wrong)

Thank you for putting it so eloquently
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