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Sayoria
01/21/21 11:09:42 AM
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Senate Democrats are signaling they will reject an effort by Mitch McConnell to protect the legislative filibuster as part of a deal to run a 50-50 Senate, saying they have little interest in bowing to his demands just hours into their new Senate majority.

McConnell has publicly and privately pressed Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer to work to keep the 60-vote threshold on most legislation as part of their power-sharing agreement. Democrats have no plans to gut the filibuster further, but argue it would be a mistake to take one of their tools off the table just as they're about to govern.

Many Democrats argue that having the threat of targeting the filibuster will be key to forcing compromise with reluctant Republicans. They also believe it would show weakness to accede to McConnells demand as hes relegated to minority leader.

Chuck Schumer is the majority leader and he should be treated like majority leader. We can get shit done around here and we ought to be focused on getting stuff done, said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.). If we dont, the inmates are going to be running this ship.

It would be exactly the wrong way to begin, said Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.). We need to have the kind of position of strength that will enable us to get stuff done.

Four years ago, as McConnell himself came under pressure from former President Donald Trump to gut the filibuster, 61 senators signed a letter to Senate leaders emphasizing the importance of protecting the supermajority requirement. And even now Democrats like Sens. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Joe Manchin of West Virginia say they want to keep the filibuster, emphasizing that it drives compromise.

For that reason, the filibuster appears safe for the immediate future regardless of what happens in the coming days. If Democrats were to change it, it would likely be in response to Republicans blocking their bills repeatedly. And theres plenty of pent-up angst in the Democratic Party, which is now in control of both chambers of Congress and the White House for the first time in more than a decade.

Republicans say that the time to commit to keeping the filibuster is now, not at a moment of political fury over legislation that the minority blocks. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the GOP simply wants to hear Schumer say that were not going to change the legislative filibuster.

You want to do it before theres an emotional, difficult, controversial issue. So that it isnt issue-driven, its institution-driven, said Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who organized the 2017 letter from rank-and-file senators to Schumer and McConnell.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/democrats-mcconnell-filibuster-460967

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Ving_Rhames
01/21/21 11:11:54 AM
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Cucked McConnell

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fire_bolt
01/21/21 11:12:17 AM
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Fuck Mitch McConnell. If he was on fire in my front yard I'd break out the marshmallows and sing Kumbaya
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Tappor
01/21/21 11:13:14 AM
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No mercy

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SquirtleSkwad
01/21/21 11:14:52 AM
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Lmao get fucked turtle.

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uwnim
01/21/21 11:15:45 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Many Democrats argue that having the threat of targeting the filibuster will be key to forcing compromise with reluctant Republicans. They also believe it would show weakness to accede to McConnells demand as hes relegated to minority leader.
This is true. While gutting the filibuster isnt something they should want to do, they need to precommit to doing so if Republicans abuse it. Like occasionally because they legitimately disagree with something is fine, but doing it just to shut things down cause they want the government to be non-functional should not be tolerated.

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gunplagirl
01/21/21 11:16:01 AM
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fire_bolt posted...
Fuck Mitch McConnell. If he was on fire in my front yard I'd break out the marshmallows and sing Kumbaya
I'd be checking online for my liability

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Irony
01/21/21 11:18:28 AM
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I don't understand filibusters

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Doom_Art
01/21/21 11:18:42 AM
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No compromise. No mercy.

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TheBlueMonk_
01/21/21 11:19:39 AM
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*McConnell blocks any progress for 4 years*
"My senate, my rules."

*McConnell can't do shit*
"TRUCE! TRUCE! PLEASE TRUCE!!!"

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Solid Sonic
01/21/21 11:20:09 AM
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Irony posted...
I don't understand filibusters

As I understand it's like "vote by suffocation". You hamstring the other side for so long by not conceding the floor that they just flip their vote to get it over with.

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Christian RULES
01/21/21 11:20:10 AM
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Fuck Mitch. He destroyed himself. He betrayed Trump and the Right. He has no friends on the Left. SAD

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Questionmarktarius
01/21/21 11:20:36 AM
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This is why locking up all three legislative bodies should never give anybody hope. The end result is at least one house inevitably flipping back two years later.
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Hexenherz
01/21/21 11:20:44 AM
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Fuck Mitch, he brought this upon himself by being a corrupt piece of shit.

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Irony
01/21/21 11:21:54 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
As I understand it's like "vote by suffocation". You hamstring the other side for so long by not conceding the floor that they just flip their vote to get it over with.
But can a majority leader stop them?

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Antifar
01/21/21 11:23:06 AM
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Irony posted...
But can a majority leader stop them?
Yeah, you can just get rid of the filibuster. It's nowhere to be found in the constitution

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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 11:24:25 AM
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fire_bolt posted...
Fuck Mitch McConnell. If he was on fire in my front yard I'd break out the marshmallows and sing Kumbaya
That seems toxic.

not your comment, but the smoke produced by him.

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Doom_Art
01/21/21 11:24:34 AM
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Just make it so if you wanna filibuster you need to actually stand there and do it

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Machete
01/21/21 11:25:28 AM
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Christian RULES posted...
Fuck Mitch. He destroyed himself. He betrayed Trump and the Right. He has no friends on the Left. SAD

where money?

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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 11:25:55 AM
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also, where is he pleading exaxmctly? That article say dems have no intention of making this common sense move.

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CADE FOSTER
01/21/21 11:26:35 AM
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that fuck loved obstructing dems now we gotta share
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uwnim
01/21/21 11:32:18 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Just make it so if you wanna filibuster you need to actually stand there and do it
That absolutely should be a requirement and your filibuster ends once you leave for any reason. Including going to the restroom cause you got to pee.

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COVxy
01/21/21 11:33:42 AM
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uwnim posted...
That absolutely should be a requirement and your filibuster ends once you leave for any reason. Including going to the restroom cause you got to pee.

Not the first plan I've ever had to get politicians to stick tubes up their penises...

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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 11:35:03 AM
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That piece of garbage and his party fillinustered obama 81 times. More than anytime in history.

to show you how weak and stupid dems are, they arent getting rid of anything.

how about this. Impeach graham, mconnel, and rapeboy on scotus. Then and only then should the fillibuster stay in place. And if they still abuse it? Get rid of it.

but none of that is possible with garbage like manchin in there.

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Doom_Art
01/21/21 11:36:47 AM
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COVxy posted...
Not the first plan I've ever had to get politicians to stick tubes up their penises...
They can just wear diapers. Don't be gross.

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COVxy
01/21/21 11:39:20 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
They can just wear diapers. Don't be gross.



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TheBiggerWiggle
01/21/21 11:51:03 AM
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Fuck Moscow mitch

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SPE
01/21/21 11:54:11 AM
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Christian RULES posted...
Fuck Mitch. He destroyed himself. He betrayed Trump and the Right. He has no friends on the Left. SAD

tingle, please stop

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GGuirao13
01/21/21 11:56:22 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
Fuck Mitch, he brought this upon himself by being a corrupt piece of shit.

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SPE
01/21/21 11:57:20 AM
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I would keep the filibuster under two conditions:

  • senate votes to convict trump (or whatever you call what theyre supposed to do with the impeachment)
  • ted Cruz, Hawley and the 2 qanon women get kicked out of the senate

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justaguy3492
01/21/21 12:00:01 PM
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I can't imagine being a serious human and defending the filibuster. Elected officials have read from phonebooks to avoid doing their jobs. Fuck the filibuster.

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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 12:03:13 PM
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If no impeachments, no fillibusters. Ted Cruz was the most vocal about promoting the capitol terrorists. Not only impeach him, impeach the next one if he acts up.

a 2/3 senate majority would be tough to get unfortunately.

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nexigrams
01/21/21 12:03:57 PM
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SPE posted...
I would keep the filibuster under two conditions:

* senate votes to convict trump (or whatever you call what theyre supposed to do with the impeachment)
* ted Cruz, Hawley and the 2 qanon women get kicked out of the senate
That's what you want out of 2 years of a democrat trifecta? Trump and a couple wacko senators convicted and removed from office? It's likely going to be 20 years before this happens again, and that's what you wanna spend the political capital on?

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Doom_Art
01/21/21 12:04:15 PM
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You could totally get 17 Republicans to vote against Cruz. They fucking hate his guts lol.

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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 12:22:51 PM
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cruz is garbage, but never forget how unified republicans are. him and moscow mitch are just automatically reelected every time.

we should just let reussia annex kentucky. I dont see one good thing coming out of there.

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ChocoboMogALT
01/21/21 12:26:37 PM
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Trade two SCOTUS and an impeachment for the filibuster.

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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 12:30:06 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
Trade two SCOTUS and an impeachment for the filibuster.
No no no

you need to emphasize how those court seats were stolen, and one of the is clearly guilty of date rape.

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Orestes417
01/21/21 12:33:30 PM
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Never forget, McConnell is just the guy who gets to draw heat from the rest of the Republicans by virtue of being their public face. Virtually any complaints thrown at him should be treated as complaints against ALL of them.

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Sayoria
01/21/21 12:36:13 PM
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The_Office_pwnz posted...
No no no

you need to emphasize how those court seats were stolen, and one of the is clearly guilty of date rape.

Yep.

One seat should be Merrick Garland.
One seat is occupied by an alleged rapist.
One seat shouldn't have been assigned on grounds of precedence with the Garland seat.

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SPE
01/21/21 12:39:02 PM
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nexigrams posted...
That's what you want out of 2 years of a democrat trifecta? Trump and a couple wacko senators convicted and removed from office? It's likely going to be 20 years before this happens again, and that's what you wanna spend the political capital on?

ok you convinced me


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CADE FOSTER
01/21/21 12:40:16 PM
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Never forget he pushed through 3 supreme court justices under trump and blocked Obamas appointee fuck the gop
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The_Office_pwnz
01/21/21 12:44:14 PM
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SPE posted...
ok you convinced me
you know hes scared because he knows were pissed

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SPE
01/21/21 12:49:26 PM
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The_Office_pwnz posted...
you know hes scared because he knows were pissed

damn right we are

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K181
01/21/21 12:52:20 PM
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The Dems are free to nuke it, but what goes around comes around. For their own interests, they better push for D.C. and Puerto Rican statehood now to tip the senate balance likely permanently in their favor. If they keep it at 100 and kill the filibuster, they're just asking for one fuck up tossing the Senate back into the GOP's hands and having all the cards there.

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CADE FOSTER
01/21/21 12:54:06 PM
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passing the voting rights act again means the gop will never win anything
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Tyranthraxus
01/21/21 12:56:18 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
passing the voting rights act again means the gop will never win anything
With the current supreme court it'll just get overturn immediately

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Doom_Art
01/21/21 12:56:29 PM
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K181 posted...
The Dems are free to nuke it, but what goes around comes around. For their own interests, they better push for D.C. and Puerto Rican statehood now to tip the senate balance likely permanently in their favor. If they keep it at 100 and kill the filibuster, they're just asking for one fuck up tossing the Senate back into the GOP's hands and having all the cards there.
The GOP is monstrous and shitty whenever they get the slightest morsel of power regardless of what Democrats do.

No sense worrying about aggravating them.

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ScazarMeltex
01/21/21 12:56:44 PM
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Yeah....no. You spent the last 10 years being an obstructionist douche. Dems are under no obligation to allow that to continue.

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CADE FOSTER
01/21/21 12:58:45 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
With the current supreme court it'll just get overturn immediately
not if we pack the court baby
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Broseph_Stalin
01/21/21 1:05:58 PM
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You do not need a filibuster when our government is already purposely designed to make passing legislation hard without a large consensus. If a bill passes the house, senate, gets signed by the president and the supreme court does not overturn it then you just have to accept it.
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