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Duncanwii
01/20/21 3:35:27 PM
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It has literally 0 impact story wise and waters down a potentially great region. Johto
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CouldBeAnAlt
01/20/21 3:35:56 PM
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No
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nothanks1
01/20/21 3:35:57 PM
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What let down gen 2 was the fact Geodude fucking solos the entire game
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Tappor
01/20/21 3:36:25 PM
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Maybe the only time Duncan is right about something

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harley2280
01/20/21 3:40:03 PM
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Nostalgia straight up blinds me to that fact. I know it's true, but I just don't care.

My gripe with Gen 2 is the level scaling. Everything is super low leveled then you fight Red and he throws out a fucking level 81 Pikachu.
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Proto_Spark
01/20/21 3:41:11 PM
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of course there was no impact storywise, it was after the story.

Gen 2 wasn't really designed like the later games, theres barely an actual story to begin with.
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Duncanwii
01/20/21 3:48:47 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
of course there was no impact storywise, it was after the story.

Gen 2 wasn't really designed like the later games, theres barely an actual story to begin with.

Gen 1 has plenty of story with Team Rocket and Gary, I dont think you fight Silver once in all of Kanto, it was just go around collecting badges.
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nothanks1
01/20/21 3:50:37 PM
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Duncanwii posted...


Gen 1 has plenty of story with Team Rocket and Gary, I dont think you fight Silver once in all of Kanto, it was just go around collecting badges.

Literally because the entire fucking game was done and they had enough space on the cart to program in some of kanto so it was done after the game was finalized.
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harley2280
01/20/21 3:51:51 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Proto_Spark posted...
of course there was no impact storywise, it was after the story.

Gen 2 wasn't really designed like the later games, theres barely an actual story to begin with.

Gen 1 has plenty of story with Team Rocket and Gary, I dont think you fight Silver once in all of Kanto, it was just go around collecting badges.

I'm like 99% sure you fight Silver on Victory Road.
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xXfireglzXx
01/20/21 3:53:43 PM
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Compsognathus
01/20/21 3:54:49 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
What let down gen 2 was the fact Geodude fucking solos the entire game
Geodude is not holding up well against Chuck or Claire.

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Panthera
01/20/21 3:56:00 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
What let down gen 2 was the fact Geodude fucking solos the entire game

Geodude solos the entirety of gen 1 too. Most Pokemon can solo most games

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Prestoff
01/20/21 3:56:26 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
Literally because the entire fucking game was done and they had enough space on the cart to program in some of kanto so it was done after the game was finalized.

Yeah this is my guess as well.

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nothanks1
01/20/21 3:56:57 PM
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Compsognathus posted...

Geodude is not holding up well against Chuck or Claire.

Earthquake
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Proto_Spark
01/20/21 4:02:27 PM
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harley2280 posted...
I'm like 99% sure you fight Silver on Victory Road.

I wouldn't really count that since its part of the regular game, just because the League is technically in Kanto.

Its still wrong because you battle him in MT. Moon, and can rebattle his final team at the pokemon league afterwords.
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DeadBankerDream
01/20/21 4:05:21 PM
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How would you know what's in the post-game of a pokemon game, Duncan?
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BlakPeppa
01/20/21 4:06:13 PM
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I liked the train.

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Tyranthraxus
01/20/21 4:06:37 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
How would you know what's in the post-game of a pokemon game, Duncan?

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN

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Compsognathus
01/20/21 4:07:33 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
Earthquake
You are relying on an attack that Graveller doesn't learn until 41 to beat Pokmon it isn't even super-effective against while they pack water moves that hit Graveller's 4x water weakness.

I suppose that might work if wildly over-leveled.

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nothanks1
01/20/21 4:10:05 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
You are relying on an attack that Graveller doesn't learn until 41 to beat Pokmon it isn't even super-effective against while they pack water moves that hit Graveller's 4x water weakness.

Claire is around 38-40 though
Also sunny day can be gotten at golden rod
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ultimate reaver
01/20/21 4:14:06 PM
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the reason pokemon has sucked for years is it refuses to be as ambitious and interesting as gen 2 was by including something like that and instead caters to people who want move properties slightly shifted around and rebalancing stuff to be their priority

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MegaCamerupt
01/20/21 4:19:40 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
Literally because the entire fucking game was done and they had enough space on the cart to program in some of kanto so it was done after the game was finalized.
Not exactly, the entire game was done and then Iwata compressed it enough that there was room to add Kanto. Moral of the story is if game freak hadn't been so incompetent at programming in the first place we could have gotten an enhanced Johto region instead of a glorified boss rush in a barebones region
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Lordgold666
01/20/21 4:24:33 PM
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Blame the rush for holiday sales

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DDirtyDastard
01/20/21 4:25:48 PM
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You hurt my feelings. Suspend TC immediately.
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Duncanwii
01/20/21 4:27:40 PM
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MegaCamerupt posted...

Not exactly, the entire game was done and then Iwata compressed it enough that there was room to add Kanto. Moral of the story is if game freak hadn't been so incompetent at programming in the first place we could have gotten an enhanced Johto region instead of a glorified boss rush in a barebones region

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Compsognathus
01/20/21 4:42:20 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
Claire is around 38-40 though
Also sunny day can be gotten at golden rod
So Graveller/Golem is using a turn to make water attacks only 2x effective? I think you are still dead before you can kill anything.

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harley2280
01/20/21 4:43:33 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
nothanks1 posted...
Claire is around 38-40 though
Also sunny day can be gotten at golden rod
So Graveller/Golem is using a turn to make water attacks only 2x effective? I think you are still dead before you can kill anything.

Also I'd like to point out the post said Geodude. So there shouldn't be any Gravler/Golem in this situation.
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nothanks1
01/20/21 4:44:39 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
So Graveller/Golem is using a turn to make water attacks only 2x effective? I think you are still dead before you can kill anything.

I used it on the draonair that never had water moves
I just earthquaked the first one and only ever used sunny day once when I was wondering if it'd work

Earthquake can usually one shot them
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FL81
01/20/21 5:02:54 PM
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Gen 2 Pokmon is the perfect RPG, only problem being the level scaling

a problem present in literally every Pokmon game anyways

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Choco
01/20/21 5:08:02 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
the reason pokemon has sucked for years is it refuses to be as ambitious and interesting as gen 2 was by including something like that
yes

ultimate reaver posted...
and instead caters to people who want move properties slightly shifted around and rebalancing stuff to be their priority
uh what???

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