Current Events > Person off a selling app wants to send me money on Venmo instead of the app?

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Im selling an item for almost $1000. The person on Facebook marketplace insisted she would send me $1000 plus $80 for shipping over Venmo or Cashapp.

Would this concern you? Her Facebook does not give criminal vibes, shes an older lady.

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Scam

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zinezinzadan posted...

Would this concern you? Her Facebook does not give criminal vibes, shes an older lady.

An older person wanting to use venmo instantly throws a red flag for me.
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once they start making sale conditions on their terms, get out

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harley2280 posted...

An older person wanting to use venmo instantly throws a red flag for me.

Absolutely this. Seems sketchy to me.

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scam alert. they'll send you the money and then days later reverse it, lie to venmo, and venmo will charge you 1000 dollars.

or they dont want to pay any fees that facebook takes.

probably both.

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I agree with you guys. So heres my next question. If I gave this person my Venmo, what could she possibly do with it? That was my curiosity. How could she steal my money by simply having my venmo.

The only real threat I saw was that shed have my address after I ship her the item being sold. But is it worth spending $1000 to get someones address to potentially rob them? I dont know.

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not versed in facebook market, but why go through venmo/cashapp instead of whatever FB uses (paypal?)
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zinezinzadan posted...

If I gave this person my Venmo, what could she possibly do with it?

Doesn't matter. Don't do it.

philsov posted...

not versed in facebook market, but why go through venmo/cashapp instead of whatever FB uses (paypal?)

My only theory is that she wants to avoid the insanely high sales fees when purchasing directly through the app. Theres a 12.9% buying fee plus the shipping. So a $1000 item becomes 1000+12.9%= $1129 + $7shipping = $1136 total. She would save a nice chunk by avoiding Facebook.

TheBlueMonk_ posted...

scam alert. they'll send you the money and then days later reverse it, lie to venmo, and venmo will charge you 1000 dollars.

or they dont want to pay any fees that facebook takes.

probably both.

OHHHH now THAT is where the scam is. I wasnt aware you could do that! When you venmo someone money, you can later go in and cancel the sent amount?? Thats how she would fuck me over. Man people are scummy..

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https://www.redpoints.com/blog/facebook-marketplace-scams-an-overview/

The camera was listed at $1200. The buyer paid Rasa the full amount, but in 52 separate Venmo transactions. Rasa thought it was weird, but since he had all the money, he let the camera go.

A day later, Venmo froze Rasas account and took back all that money. It had violated their terms and was also found to be from stolen cards and accounts. In this situation, Rasa had no recourse with Venmo to get the money back, and lost the camera as well.

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philsov posted...

https://www.redpoints.com/blog/facebook-marketplace-scams-an-overview/

Im slightly desperate to sell it because I dont know whens the next time someone will be able to give me $1000 for my camera as well. So I dug into venmo and this is off their website:

It is not possible to cancel a payment to an existing Venmo account. Once you send a payment, the funds are available to the recipient right away. If you need the payment returned, please have the recipient send you a payment for the same amount.

But you just answered my next question. Even if this person sends me a one time payment of $1080, if it was with a stolen a credit card, Im fucked?

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That is absolutely, 100% a scam. You should never under any circumstance pay for an item with Cashapp or Venmo. If a person is insistent on those two methods, you should report them immediately.

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Always go through the proper channels.

Caelthus posted...

That is absolutely, 100% a scam. You should never under any circumstance pay for an item with Cashapp or Venmo. If a person is insistent on those two methods, you should report them immediately.

I simply told her that Im willing to list the camera on an app that accepts shipping, such as Mercari. This way she doesnt have to send money to a stranger.

She opened my message 27 min ago and still hasnt responded. Classic. Crazy thing is her fb looks so legitimate. She has pictures with her husband and grand kids, and the pictures go back to 2013. Her friends are commenting on her photos.. Inagine faking an identity 7 years in the making to scam people online. Nuts.

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zinezinzadan posted...

Crazy thing is her fb looks so legitimate.

Doesn't matter.
If not a scammer, then someone who's not worth dealing with anyway.

zinezinzadan posted...

I simply told her that Im willing to list the camera on an app that accepts shipping, such as Mercari. This way she doesnt have to send money to a stranger.

She opened my message 27 min ago and still hasnt responded. Classic. Crazy thing is her fb looks so legitimate. She has pictures with her husband and grand kids, and the pictures go back to 2013. Her friends are commenting on her photos.. Inagine faking an identity 7 years in the making to scam people online. Nuts.

legit elders can be legit scammers too

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zinezinzadan posted...

I simply told her that Im willing to list the camera on an app that accepts shipping, such as Mercari. This way she doesnt have to send money to a stranger.

She opened my message 27 min ago and still hasnt responded. Classic. Crazy thing is her fb looks so legitimate. She has pictures with her husband and grand kids, and the pictures go back to 2013. Her friends are commenting on her photos.. Inagine faking an identity 7 years in the making to scam people online. Nuts.

Cobalt_Wasps posted...

legit elders can be legit scammers too

Not to mention it could be a phishing victim that had their account stolen. But yeah, venmo & cashapp should only ever be used if you never expect to see the money you send through those apps again.

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Venmo is something I would only ever use in small amounts with people I know in real life.

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I will never understand why people don't use PayPal Goods and Services exclusively when making these sorts of deals. They protect against scams.

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SquirtleSkwad posted...

I will never understand why people don't use PayPal Goods and Services exclusively when making these sorts of deals. They protect against scams.

Not knowing better, generally.

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I wouldn't do it, not for business transactions like this.
Venmo/cashapp are more used for outings, gifts, things of that nature.

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why is this topic still open

it's a scam

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To be honest I'm struggling to sell stuff. I just listed a Sony A6400 for sale for $800 and no offers... I live in around Chicago so you'd think at least someone would show interest.

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Absolutely do not. I had somebody try and pull that shit when I was selling a car last summer. You have the item, so they need to play by your rules if you're selling.

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Totally a scam. You can ask them to pay with bitcoins if they want skip FB fees.

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