Current Events > What's the consequence for leaving your home with covid?

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Where you live?

If you have suspected or confirmed covid and violate the quarantine then you can get a heavy fine if it is a minor violation and you dont come near anyone. Otherwise it is possible to get 2-6 years of prison time in Sweden.


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Has it even been enforced in Sweden?

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sent to sleepy joe basement for punishment

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Apparently around here yesterday at a Walmart some guy was going around coughing on people on purpose. He coughed on the wrong group of dudes I guess because they took him out back, beat his ass, threw him to the ground, and then 2 of them shit on the guy's back and back of his head while another pissed on it. He learned his lesson I think.

No consequence if you dont get caught

my outlook on life: no laws are ever broken until a person is caught

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There is no contact tracing in the US for the most part so pretty much nothing.

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Dingydang166 posted...

2 of them shit on the guy's back and back of his head while another pissed on it.

that part is excessive imo. the message was heard when he got his ass beat.
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FF_Redux posted...

Has it even been enforced in Sweden?

I know a woman got a case against her for going to her job while positive. Shes been fired and is awaiting trial IIRC.

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None, because there are no laws.

They'll really throw in jail in Sweden for leaving your house sick? Lol

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Kolibri X posted...

None, because there are no laws.

They'll really throw in jail in Sweden for leaving your house sick? Lol

In some cases yes, if you get caught doing it.

Some diseases, like covid, are placed under The Disease Prevention Law and it is possible for doctors and law enforcment to go to great lengths to combat such diseases. Like forced testing and forced isolation if you refuse treatment for one of the dangerous but treatable diseases.

Multiple STIs are on this list and when it comes to them it is a crime to have sex if you know you got one of them.

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kingdrake2 posted...

that part is excessive imo. the message was heard when he got his ass beat.

Nasty too since they probably didn't wipe.

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BalanceLost posted...

In some cases yes, if you get caught doing it.

Some diseases, like covid, are placed under The Disease Prevention Law and it is possible for doctors and law enforcment to go to great lengths to combat such diseases. Like forced testing and forced isolation if you refuse treatment for one of the dangerous but treatable diseases.

Multiple STIs are on this list and when it comes to them it is a crime to have sex if you know you got one of them.

Wow. In California you can give someone a death sentence by intentionally giving them AIDS and its only a misdemeanor.

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Dingydang166 posted...

lol

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I really really don't like this law honestly

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There are none.

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Kolibri X posted...

Wow. In California you can give someone a death sentence by intentionally giving them AIDS and its only a misdemeanor.

If youre HIV-positive and dont inform a sexual partner beforehand it counts as violent assault even if you dont infect the other person.

scar the 1 posted...

I really really don't like this law honestly

I find it highly necessary for public safety.

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BalanceLost posted...

I find it highly necessary for public safety.

What about people who can't afford to stay home? They're liable to be fined because they're poor. Meanwhile rich people can afford to break the law as much as they want. This law doesn't do shit for public safety until everyone can actually afford to stay home.

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Where I live? Another 2 inches lifted on your truck and a 30 pack of natty lite.

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scar the 1 posted...

What about people who can't afford to stay home? They're liable to be fined because they're poor. Meanwhile rich people can afford to break the law as much as they want. This law doesn't do shit for public safety until everyone can actually afford to stay home.

The potential prison sentence affects everyone and is applicable if you put others in jeopardy. And repeated finable offenses, in many instances not just regarding disease prevention, can also lead to prison time.

It is also not a law applied on any and all diseases. It is used for dangerous infectious diseases which need to be kept in check unless we want more death and possibly the collapse of society services.

I disagree with your statement that the law does shit for public safety by the way since it is what enables contact tracing and quarantine of dangerous spreadable diseases. Ebola became a non-threat here thanks to this for example.

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BalanceLost posted...

I disagree with your statement that the law does shit for public safety by the way since it is what enables contact tracing and quarantine of dangerous spreadable diseases. Ebola became a non-threat here thanks to this for example.

I'm being a bit hyperbolic but my point is that in forcing poor people to stay home without making sure they would actually survive staying home, public safety is actually decreased in vulnerable demographics.

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Dingydang166 posted...

Apparently around here yesterday at a Walmart some guy was going around coughing on people on purpose. He coughed on the wrong group of dudes I guess because they took him out back, beat his ass, threw him to the ground, and then 2 of them shit on the guy's back and back of his head while another pissed on it. He learned his lesson I think.

Lmao
God damn, that went from 0 to 100 to 1000

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You get fed to a frickin shark with a frickin laser beam cannon on its back.

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This is why I masks are important, I know plenty of people that went out with obvious symptoms

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scar the 1 posted...

I'm being a bit hyperbolic but my point is that in forcing poor people to stay home without making sure they would actually survive staying home, public safety is actually decreased in vulnerable demographics.

Youre not just being hyperbolic here, youre being way off the mark in several regards.

* Your weird classist take on smittskyddslagen: This is not a law rich people can buy themselves out from. Violating smittskyddslagen is not like getting a ticket for speeding but rather being guilty of hitting someone with your car more or less intentionally. It is serious stuff.

* Support for poorer people is something I stand behind but you are comparing apples and oranges. There are safety nets like socialen if you end up that poor. There are not safety nets in the same way if you get a horrible disease which makes your lungs collapse except forcing people who are confirmed to be sick to stay home in an attempt to minimize the spread.

You arguing that people who carry the disease should be allowed to roam about freely is honestly shocking and makes you seem ignorant about the severity of the situation.

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BalanceLost posted...

Youre not just being hyperbolic here, youre being way off the mark in several regards.

* Your weird classist take on smittskyddslagen: This is not a law rich people can buy themselves out from. Violating smittskyddslagen is not like getting a ticket for speeding but rather being guilty of hitting someone with your car more or less intentionally. It is serious stuff.

* Support for poorer people is something I stand behind but you are comparing apples and oranges. There are safety nets like socialen if you end up that poor. There are not safety nets in the same way if you get a horrible disease which makes your lungs collapse except forcing people who are confirmed to be sick to stay home in an attempt to minimize the spread.

You arguing that people who carry the disease should be allowed to roam about freely is honestly shocking and makes you seem ignorant about the severity of the situation.

I think you're misunderstanding me a little bit. I will try to be clearer. It is not my opinion that knowingly infected people should be roaming freely.
My opinion is that it's fucked up to fine people who can't afford to stay home. Soc will not necessarily step in for people who have timjobb. FK is a monster to deal with for healthy people. It's been all over the news for almost a year now how the pandemic hits a lot harder in poor areas. That's not a coincidence. Maybe we need a law that fines people, but what we need more is actual relief so people don't need to go outside. Once we have that I'm all for fining or jailing whoever goes to buy smoked eel or goes skiing, or throws birthday parties for their kids or whatever.

And I think you know as well as I do that soc isn't just going to hand out checks to all who might need them.

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